The Dark Knight Rises Official Oswald " The Penguin " Cobblepot thread

[Ixion]

I would love to see Penguin in the next film, and Catwoman (although the two of them together might get confusing after Batman Returns did the same thing). I hate the argument that they're not 'realistic' enough for Nolan's universe, they're classic characters that have been around for almost as long as Batman and Robin, they're staples of the Bat-universe and will always fit into it.

And Hoskins as Pengiun works for me.

 

[spideyman101]

If Penguin was a non-mutant, played by Philip Seymour Hoffman without a large nose, and the umbrella's are just a sense-acclaimed fashion statement, and he's a fancy arms dealer, then I'm fine with that.

Perhaps have him hire his men to take out the other arms dealers, so he can make the prices unreasonably high... the mob doesn't like this... "not... one... bit..." so Roman Sionis hires his men to take him out. Eventually Roman gets caught in an accident where molten rock is splattered on him and it sticks to his face. Obsessed with his new image, when the rock peels off he reapplies it, this time using bits and pieces from his mother's grave. Nice little story if you ask me... meanwhile Riddler is tempting the cops with his knowledge of Batman's identity. Scarecrow aids Roman with his fear toxins...

 

[Tigerking]

Personally, I think Jack Black could pull of a very good Penguin.

 

[Two-Face]

Personally, I think Jack Black could pull of a very good Penguin.

No I can't see him as The Penguin, He will remind School Of Rock.

 

[zenith16]

I'd say use Joe peshi or pesci (sorry if I misspelled that) from the lethal weapon movies, But he might be too old now. beside Nolan and old man said no to the penguin. being in their movies. so I don't see why this is being pushed still

 

[regwec]

David Suchet for me.

 

[Dark Knight]

I'd say use Joe peshi or pesci (sorry if I misspelled that) from the lethal weapon movies, But he might be too old now. beside Nolan and old man said no to the penguin. being in their movies. so I don't see why this is being pushed still

Maybe if WB's lets Nolan make a R rated Bat film then Pesci would fit because of all the cussing....

 

[Dark Knight]

a really fat Mathew Broderick would be fairly amusing

That would be hilarious....

 

[zenith16]

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Maybe if WB's lets Nolan make a R rated Bat film then Pesci would fit because of all the cussing....

lol yo if eddie murphy can do that with his movies as we've seen it's possable for pesci. I guess.

 

[Dark Knight]

So, my vote goes to McShane.. even if he starts with the multiple '*****ucker' thing from Deadwood!!!

Nice!

 

[GarzaUK]

Just an idea here, dont crucify me fanboys lol lol.

What if Cobblepot (if you wish to call him that) was a "non-freak" mob boss, trying to take back Gotham from the freaks. Realising he is losing and realising he can gain more power and fear by being a freak "If you can't beat em, join em". Power-hungry he makes himself a freak, using plastic surgery to elongate his nose, maybe even filing his teeth and maybe changing his voicebox and becoming flamboyent its his attire, calling himself the Penguin.

Just a thought.

 

[ronny]

I would like to see aspects of the character taken from the recent Penguin story in The Jokers Asylum. Especially the scrapbooks where he keeps the clippings of all the "accidents" his enemies have suffered.
It's a great take on the character, I don't know if many of you have read it but you should. He's portrayed as a violent, corrupt man but one who wants to do the right thing.

 

[The Penguin]

David Suchet for me.

david suchet seems like a good choice.. good call

 

[Terror Inc.]

I always liked the fact that the Penguin hits close to home for both Bruce and Batman. If he were in the next one, I'd like to see him come into Gotham as a savior, using his wealth to help rebuild the city after the terror they just went through with the Joker. Kinda the same route as Returns, but no mayor angle. Just a wealthy entrepenuer who seems as though hes trying to do what Bruce is doing, helping those who can't really help themselves. He'd be in all the same ritzy circles as Bruce, which would make for an interesting confrontation when Batman finally learns Cobblepot is really the Penguin. As for the whole Penguin aspect, while he's helping save Gotham, hes setting himself up as the premiere crime lord, not just of the mobs, but of all Gotham, running everything, and using the cash ammased from his illegal enterprise to further his criminal gains, as well as getting a one up in the public eye. I really think the people of Gotham should love the Penguin until he's revealed, another golden boy like Wayne. And as far as attire goes, give him a tux, hat, maybe an umbrella here and there, I really think the Penguin could work.

 

[The Penguin]

*edit* double post... sry

 

[Terror Inc.]

double post.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Is Jack Black seriously being mentioned in this thread, god please save us!

 

[nolan's roll'n]

Philip Seymour Hoffman, David Suchet, or Bob Hoskins.

 

[TaterSalad]

Jack Black would be the parallel to Jim Carrey as the Riddler.

Too over the top.

Penguin the Gentlman rather than the half-man, half bird is the way to go.

I'm diggin the Seymore-Hoffman idea.

Not sure what I think about Mr. Smee as the Penguin though.

 

[souvlaki]

Just an idea here, dont crucify me fanboys lol lol.

What if Cobblepot (if you wish to call him that) was a "non-freak" mob boss, trying to take back Gotham from the freaks. Realising he is losing and realising he can gain more power and fear by being a freak "If you can't beat em, join em". Power-hungry he makes himself a freak, using plastic surgery to elongate his nose, maybe even filing his teeth and maybe changing his voicebox and becoming flamboyent its his attire, calling himself the Penguin.

Just a thought.

Or he can just have a naturally large nose, wear a tuxedo, and be a little chubby and short like in the comics. I mean, it's really not that hard to sell the Penguin.

 

[ronny]

Or he can just have a naturally large nose, wear a tuxedo, and be a little chubby and short like in the comics. I mean, it's really not that hard to sell the Penguin.

Exactly right. The character isn't that far-fetched and I don't know why Nolan dislikes him. Just lose the monocle (Play the top hat by ear) and tone down the more fantastic umbrella weapons and you're set.
The character works. End of story.

 

[Shane Diesel]

I was watching the SE BR DVD and Burton was talking about how he looks for a psychological profile in the villains that he can create a story around. The studio badly wanted Penguin but Burton wanted Catwoman b/c she had a psychological profile he thought could be used well. The comic book Penguin wasn't interesting to Burton so he created a psychological profile that would fit into his story - deformed rejected youth raised by penguins, etc.

Nolan also uses villains with a psychological tie in with Batman. I think the same problem is presented here as well with Penguin. On a technical level he's easy to translate to Nolan's world. But where's the psychological hook with Penguin that would make him a viable villain in Nolan's Batman?

 

[GarzaUK]

Or he can just have a naturally large nose, wear a tuxedo, and be a little chubby and short like in the comics. I mean, it's really not that hard to sell the Penguin.

I agree its easy to get a Penguin in appearance in the Nolanverse. But apart from a monacle, a tuxedo and an umbrella that shoots bullets how is he different to any other sort of mob boss, how is he above the cut of the normal mob boss? I can't think of an obviuos answer.

I mean why does he call himself the Penguin, why does he where a tux, a monacle and have an umbrella designed to be a weapon? Why be flamboyent? There has to be a reason?

He is IMO a boring charcter, i mean without his suit and big nose what is the Penguin anyway?? The Penguin disfiguring himself in becoming to a freak because he is power hungry, gives him a slight edge to his character, but im sure there is better ideas out there.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I always hated the Penguin. He was such a ridiculous character and was annoying as ****. Such a pansy villain.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I agree its easy to get a Penguin in appearance in the Nolanverse. But apart from a monacle, a tuxedo and an umbrella that shoots bullets how is he different to any other sort of mob boss, how is he above the cut of the normal mob boss? I can't think of an obviuos answer.

I mean why does he call himself the Penguin, why does he where a tux, a monacle and have an umbrella designed to be a weapon? Why be flamboyent? There has to be a reason?

He is IMO a boring charcter, i mean without his suit and big nose what is the Penguin anyway?? The Penguin disfiguring himself in becoming to a freak because he is power hungry, gives him a slight edge to his character, but im sure there is better ideas out there.

ugh, Nolan has corrupted all fanboys. There needs to be a reason why Penguin looks the way he does?

The Penguin is a mob boss. What makes him difference is the fact he is not the stereotypical Italian goodfellas we have seen thus far. Hes high class. Hes fine by himself. The Penguin himself probably wont be the primary bad guy, but he should be a Gotham player.