The Dark Knight Rises Official Oswald " The Penguin " Cobblepot thread

[ronny]

Yeah, it is kind of unusual to see a classy British guy as a mob boss in America but that's the general gimmick of the character. They shouldn't change it.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Batman - Arkham Files: The Penguin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnjK719rheE

 

[Joker831]

If The Penguin only appeared briefly...like a small cameo or maybe even in a role like Maroni's....do you think Joe Pesci would consider the role if offered? I know he's retired and did the role in The Good Shepard for DeNiro, but like if the role only had one 10minute scene or a few scene scattered through the movie.....you think Pesci would do a huge movie like this one more time?

Id love to see that, dont get me wrong....im on the Phillip S. Hoffman/David Suchet/Paul Giamatti bandwagon as well haha.....but i'd love to see Pesci do this as well. He wouldnt be cursing ala Goodfella's haha....plus he's more reserved at his old age, he seemed calm in his brief Good Shepard cameo.

So what do you guys think....would he turn the offer down? If he took it, would you guys like that?

 

[shadowdog]

I do not like the idea of Pesci. That seems wrong to me.

 

[Ziggyman]

Pesci...Really...No way!

Hoskins...Hoffman...Giamatti

 

[Nepenthes]

The Penguin should be American business gone wrong. He shouldn't be a foreign influence. His visual is lifted from the robber barons who were so critical to Americas development through the industrial revolution and into the early 1900's and even though nowadays global business means you can often be dealing with pricks from other countries, I think it's important that Penguin represent an American homegrown ideal. And he's from part of the same group as Bruce Wayne, what elevated the Wayne Family in the first place. If he's English it could be too much of an "us & them" thing, when it's important that he's coming from inside, the establishment within Gotham. oh and plus I'm pretty sure Kool cigarettes are American ha ha

 

[The Penguin]

Pesci...Really...No way!

Hoskins...Hoffman...Giamatti

hoskins = yes.... hoffman = yes.... but paul giamatti.... would that work?

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

hoskins = yes.... hoffman = yes.... but paul giamatti.... would that work?

I think Giamatti would be a vintage Nolan casting, someone you wouldn't really expect.

 

[Ziggyman]

hoskins = yes.... hoffman = yes.... but paul giamatti.... would that work?

...I like his voice...It's kind of whiny...I personally think he would be a pretty good penguin...He can act, has a weird voice, and has some strange mannerisms...I like!t:

 

[Ziggyman]

I think Giamatti would be a vintage Nolan casting, someone you wouldn't really expect.

I agree!

 

[Superman]

Works for me.

I think they should make him some kind of mobster who comes to Gotham to fill in the hole that Batman and Joker left behind by taking out the mob bosses in DK.

Just an ideal.

 

[ronny]

The Penguin should be American business gone wrong. He shouldn't be a foreign influence. His visual is lifted from the robber barons who were so critical to Americas development through the industrial revolution and into the early 1900's and even though nowadays global business means you can often be dealing with pricks from other countries, I think it's important that Penguin represent an American homegrown ideal. And he's from part of the same group as Bruce Wayne, what elevated the Wayne Family in the first place. If he's English it could be too much of an "us & them" thing, when it's important that he's coming from inside, the establishment within Gotham. oh and plus I'm pretty sure Kool cigarettes are American ha ha

Okay, can we please clear this up? Can we get a definite answer, in the comics is The Penguin an American or is he British? Have they ever said?

 

[The Joker]

Okay, can we please clear this up? Can we get a definite answer, in the comics is The Penguin an American or is he British? Have they ever said?

He's american. He was raised in Gotham City.

 

[ronny]

I'd love to see a scene where he assembles the umbrella, loading bullets into it and so on. Although this shouldn't be straight away, the shock vaue of seeing him murder a guy with a umbrella is something the director won't want to ignore.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Knowing Nolan, hed probably only go as far as an umbrella with a blade on the tip, or a gun hidden in the umbrella or something.



**** realism

 

[66 Face]

For acting and the look I'm still going with Ian McShane. He's just too perfect IMO.

 

[regwec]

The Riddler is obviously an American who wants to be British. It is the only way in which the character could so fundementally misunderstand some of the tenets of British eccentricity.

 

[panda_eater]

why is the penguin boring?! what makes a clown man and a bat man more interesting than a penguin man? penguins are interesting.

 

[Milkman95]

I'd like to see Giamatti or Hoffman as The Penguin. I wouldn't mind seeing this character in the third film at all. Especially if he's portrayed as the next mob boss with owning several clubs in Gotham as his cover.

 

[dario2739]

I basically see the Penguin working similar to how he is in comics today.
He's a gangster with a ligitmate front - a nightclub and likes to dress real classy. So... fat gangster, own's a club which he does his dirty dealings out the back... hang on it's Tony Soprano!!! So, how about James Gandolfini?
Other than that, I love the idea of Jack Black, and David Suchet... i'd never thought of him but he looks ideal in the Maxwell picture.

 

[cerealkiller182]

No Gandolfini. Im sick of the wiseguys in Gotham. Suchet would bring a classier gangster

 

[Shane Diesel]

I basically see the Penguin working similar to how he is in comics today.
He's a gangster with a ligitmate front - a nightclub and likes to dress real classy. So... fat gangster, own's a club which he does his dirty dealings out the back... hang on it's Tony Soprano!!! So, how about James Gandolfini?
Other than that, I love the idea of Jack Black, and David Suchet... i'd never thought of him but he looks ideal in the Maxwell picture.

I heard an interview by Eric Roberts who said Gandolfini wanted Maroni. Roberts actually thought Gandolfini would get the role b/c he looks like a mobster. Then to his surprise he was casted. I think the film makers felt the baggage of Tony Soprano wasn't worth it.

Here's the interview, you have to fast forward to find the part where Roberts talks. Its entitled Film Freak Dark Knight podcast and has a few parts.

http://www.971freefm.com/pages/4107.php

 

[66 Face]

I think that if the Penguin comes in as another mob boss he becomes boring. IMO the character would work well if he came in as a rival of Bruce Wayne in a business sense but also plays a dirty game like the Kingpin from Daredevil. He's picking up the broken peices of the mob and making it his with his money. Also throw the freak Penguin out the window. He's well liked and Batman looks bad in the public eye for going after him.

Oh yeah... IAN MCSHANE DAMMIT!!!!!

 

[TimidationGame]

I think that if the Penguin comes in as another mob boss he becomes boring. IMO the character would work well if he came in as a rival of Bruce Wayne in a business sense but also plays a dirty game like the Kingpin from Daredevil. He's picking up the broken peices of the mob and making it his with his money. Also throw the freak Penguin out the window. He's well liked and Batman looks bad in the public eye for going after him.

Oh yeah... IAN MCSHANE DAMMIT!!!!!

The Gotham public had to take it and endure from the mob and then started to fight back under new inspiration. Are you sure the mob won't do the same?

 

[66 Face]

The Gotham public had to take it and endure from the mob and then started to fight back under new inspiration. Are you sure the mob won't do the same?

Thats the thing. The mobs been kicked around now. Their new inspiration could be the financial support the Penguin offers. They could flock to him in droves because his idea is to have an all powerful mob rather than a few gangs.

A good subplot would be Catwoman being more of a Robin Hood. Stealing from Bruce Wayne and the Penguin to help the poor. Sure she's helping but she's a theif and stealing for her own good too. I wouldn't show her as a love interest in this movie yet though.