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[triplefive]

As great of an addition that I think online multiplayer has been for consoles, I just can't ever seem to get into it as much. I guess it must be because the competition usually seems so much harder when there are people spending all their time online getting better while I play casually and get my ass handed to me.

this too. i get my ass handed to me on a plate.

 

[SpideyVille]

I never really got into the multiplayer stuff, even the less combative version where *******s can't just kill you all willy-nilly, but I could go for some single player DLC.

I think the only MP that I really got into was for the Dr. Mario game on the Wii. And even then, It's still been hard for me to get into it, even with friends of mine that I used to stay over and play sports games with.

But I agree. Some Single player stuff could be great, as long as its not more zombie stuff like UN.

this too. i get my ass handed to me on a plate.

Exactly, which is why I think they should start making separate MP trophies and achievements. I know some games do it where the only main online trophies are given just for simply trying it out, while more trophies are added later on that don't affect one's chances of getting Platinum.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Exactly, which is why I think they should start making separate MP trophies and achievements. I know some games do it where the only main online trophies are given just for simply trying it out, while more trophies are added later on that don't affect one's chances of getting Platinum.

Agreed.

I think it's ****ed up to add multiplayer trophies. One of the reasons I appreciated how IW never put online multiplayer trophies in MW and MW2.

 

[Soapy]

I have no problem with it. If 100%-ing games is your thing and there are multiplayer cheevos, well... you better play your ass some multiplayer.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

New Redemption DLC being teased. Also Quadruple XP weekend incoming.

http://www.thenmn.com/rockstartopstreyarch.htm

YESSS!

 

[SpideyVille]

I have no problem with it. If 100%-ing games is your thing and there are multiplayer cheevos, well... you better play your ass some multiplayer.

I know that that's the exact reason why they do it, so that it forces people who normally wouldn't bother to play it to not only give it a shot, but to also spend some significant time playing it, and I don't mind that. It's just when they give insane challenges like making a comeback at the final minute or something else regardless of whether or not you can use a friend to give you a boost.

Like I look at Uncharted 2, and there's only 2 online trophies required for Platinum, both of which just require you to try one of the modes. They later added a bunch of other trophies just for MP afterwards with a DLC pack. I think games should do that instead because a lot of MP trophies just make the odds uneven. It has more to do with luck and who you play with than it does with how skilled you are.

 

[cherokeesam]

Thats why ya gotta go online with a posse. Going in by yourself is suicide.

Why?
I've never found posses to be any better than just a free-for-all....more often than not, the posse just wanders aimlessly around with no clear direction or mission, gets bored and winds up taking target practice on each other for kicks 'n' giggles.

I'm with most of ya in wanting this next (apparent) DLC to be more SP-oriented....hopefully some kind of Indians pack, with different tribes represented, some Indian-specific missions (both SP and MP) and maybe some bows and lances for appropriate weapons variety.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I'm not a fan of multiplayer achievements/trophies either, unless it's something easy like the few Black Ops achievements or if it's something that should come over time (x amount of kills or x amount of games played).

 

[BlackLantern]

I'm with most of ya in wanting this next (apparent) DLC to be more SP-oriented....hopefully some kind of Indians pack, with different tribes represented, some Indian-specific missions (both SP and MP) and maybe some bows and lances for appropriate weapons variety.

yeah...because the genocide of an entire indigenous people makes for great gaming

 

[Trainwreck2100]

yeah...because the genocide of an entire indigenous people makes for great gaming

Worked for Halo

 

[cherokeesam]

yeah...because the genocide of an entire indigenous people makes for great gaming

Who's talking genocide?
I'm talking about having Indian characters/costumes available for selection in single player and multiplayer. RDR already has a *very* scant few available --- mainly Apaches. (As much as I luh-huv Rockstar, I gotta deduct a few brownie points to the Research Department for that non-sequitur: Apaches do *not* live on the Northern Plains.)

And besides that, I'd love the chance to get a little historical revenge by leading a band of Cheyenne or Lakota into Blackwater and Armadillo and burning those b****es to the ground.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Why?
I've never found posses to be any better than just a free-for-all....more often than not, the posse just wanders aimlessly around with no clear direction or mission, gets bored and winds up taking target practice on each other for kicks 'n' giggles.

Posse, as in your friends. Go online with your friends.

yeah...because the genocide of an entire indigenous people makes for great gaming

That would be great fun. They shoot at you with bows and arrows, you shoot back at them with a gattling gun. Whats more fun than that? Nothing, thats what.

And it wasnt genocide, it was colonization.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well, historically speaking, wouldn't most of the conflict between the settlers and the indigenous population be largely over by the time the game is set? I thought it was at the point when most cities and towns had been firmly established, this being the point in history where civilisation was being introduced to the west.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Well, historically speaking, wouldn't most of the conflict between the settlers and the indigenous population be largely over by the time the game is set? I thought it was at the point when most cities and towns had been firmly established, this being the point in history where civilisation was being introduced to the west.

Yea, the game takes place in 1911.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

RDR Multiplayer is/was so much fun, IMO.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I find the free roam incredibly fun especially with some friends, but the competitive stuff is garbage.

 

[cherokeesam]

Well, historically speaking, wouldn't most of the conflict between the settlers and the indigenous population be largely over by the time the game is set? I thought it was at the point when most cities and towns had been firmly established, this being the point in history where civilisation was being introduced to the west.

Yes, RDR is set in 1911/1914, and the entirety of the native population was either on reservations or dead by that point.

But there's two ways R* could do an "Indians Pack":

1) Set the story 30+years earlier. I haven't bought the Undead Nightmare pack yet, so I don't know exactly how much of the landscape changes with that scenario, but I'm assuming it's kind of a total conversion...? With NPCs being replaced by zombies; buildings and towns looking all zombied out....?? If so, you could do something similar by "replacing" certain towns with Indian encampments or reservations, certain NPCs with Indians, etc.

2) If that's not practical, and the setting absolutely has to remain 1911, then another option would be to go all supernatural (like they did with Undead Nightmare) with a "Ghost Dance" scenario. The Ghost Dance happened late in the 19th century (circa 1889-1890) and was basically a spiritual revival of the "old ways" --- you could pencil in a similar story happening in the RDR Old West of 1911, and sexy it up with actual supernatural abilities, fetishes and critters (the Ghost Dance shirts were supposed to deflect bullets --- imagine a "real life" ghost shirt in RDR worn by an Indian, making him virtually immune to guns....you'd have to fight them with knives, bows, dynamite and firebottles....)

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I find the free roam incredibly fun especially with some friends, but the competitive stuff is garbage.

Really? I always enjoyed it. Especially free for all, lol.

 

[Havok83]

I find the free roam incredibly fun especially with some friends, but the competitive stuff is garbage.

I found free roam online was incredibly boring. Not much to do. Id rather do free roam myself and work on the ambient challenges. The gang hideouts were my favorite thing to do online

 

[socool]

That would be great fun. They shoot at you with bows and arrows, you shoot back at them with a gattling gun. Whats more fun than that? Nothing, thats what.

And it wasnt genocide, it was colonization.

I hope you're kidding. It would it be incredibly insulting considering that Native Americans find this be their Holocaust.

And it's still genocide. The Holocaust was Hitler's plan to perfect the world. Still genocide no matter how you cover it up.

You sure you're in college?

 

[BlackLantern]

ummm he was joking....we do that around here

 

[socool]

ummm he was joking....we do that around here

You sure? I can't tell.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I hope you're kidding. It would it be incredibly insulting considering that Native Americans find this be their Holocaust.

And it's still genocide. The Holocaust was Hitler's plan to perfect the world. Still genocide no matter how you cover it up.

You sure you're in college?

I really dont care about the native americans and their struggle. Like, at all. But yes it was a joke.


And what the hell does that have to do with what Hitler did to the jewish population? People have conquered other people since time began. What the settlers did with the indigenous population was nothing new and nothing more horrific than whats previously transpired throughout history. S**t happens that we cant control, get over it.

 

[socool]

I really dont care about the native americans and their struggle. Like, at all. But yes it was a joke.


And what the hell does that have to do with what Hitler did to the jewish population? People have conquered other people since time began. What the settlers did with the indigenous population was nothing new and nothing less horrific than whats previously transpired throughout history. S**t happens, get over it.

I REALLY hope this is joke. But I won't comment just in case it is.

EDIT: You fixed it just when I pressed "Quote" Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Soapy]

I found that post of Pat's as well as his attitude toward other cultures in general to be pretty disgusting overall, but it wasn't really genocide was it? I mean, didn't most of the natives die from diseases the Europeans brought over? Doesn't "genocide" imply intent?