RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

[DarthSkywalker]

Marvel is treating their universe as a television series. It's good business sense because quite frankly, it's working. A lot of audience members have the expectation now that they have to see every single marvel film. It makes more sense for marvel to make movies that have more loose ends than tied ends, because audiences will think "I now have to see the next movie" rather than "This movie didn't tie up loose ends".

I am talking about the quality, not box office or "loose ends".

 

[Heretic]

Its the idea that a sequel is never guaranteed so it is best to start out with the best of the best.

In regards to Begins, Nolan kind of had the flexibility in that Joker has already been seen on screen before so it's not like he had to feel obligated to use the character as its already been done.

Nolan intentionally wanted to showcase a lesser known villain for his movie because the focus for him was Bruce Wayne/Batman and he didn't want the villain to upstage that. Hell, it took some serious convincing for Goyer to convince Nolan to give Dr. Crane the Scarecrow mask.

By the end, Batman as a character had been established and now Nolan could consider introducing the bigger villains. Granted it was a gamble as no sequel is guaranteed but, it worked.

When you have a character like Batman, make your movie with the intention that more will follow. Batman has been making money for decades longer than I've been alive...and will be making money well after I am gone. That doesn't mean that you end on a cliffhanger...but it also means you don't have to rush through his entire history and villains in one movie.

 

[DA_Champion]

I am talking about the quality, not box office or "loose ends".

I agree with you on quality from a personal standpoint, but ultimately it's up to the general audience. I think that they have bought into the idea that loose ends (which correlate very strongly with poor quality) are good to have because they set up a universe.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree with you on quality from a personal standpoint, but ultimately it's up to the general audience. I think that they have bought into the idea that loose ends (which correlate very strongly with poor quality) are good to have because they set up a universe.

We the first phase for the most part was good. It lacked in greatness, but had some good to very good films. I understand being sold on that. I am still waiting for a good film this time around. Hopefully TWS starts a trend.

 

[MrMaooz]

 

[DA_Champion]

All that said, I think Robocop (2014) ties up too many loose ends. As I wrote in my review, I didn't buy the quantity of plot that took place in the movie, I think it would have been better if it had ended up with Robocop killing Antoin Vallon.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

We the first phase for the most part was good. It lacked in greatness, but had some good to very good films. I understand being sold on that. I am still waiting for a good film this time around. Hopefully TWS starts a trend.

Not sure what you mean exactly. What kind of trend?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Still waiting for this sequel.

 

[DA_Champion]

Not sure what you mean exactly. What kind of trend?

I think he means a trend of good movies from the MCU.

The second set of films has been weak so far.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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Not sure what you mean exactly. What kind of trend?

Of Phase 2 being good. IM3 is ok, but TDW is so mediocre, it is kind of painful. I want a strong film with few to no reservations. Like Iron Man, TFA and The Avengers. And while Thor is flawed, I still enjoy it quite a lot.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think he means a trend of good movies from the MCU.

The second set of films has been weak so far.

Of Phase 2 being good. IM3 is ok, but TDW is so mediocre, it is kind of painful. I want a strong film with few to no reservations. Like Iron Man, TFA and The Avengers. And while Thor is flawed, I still enjoy it quite a lot.

Ohh, okay. I get ya' now.

 

[Motown Marvel]

It's not a bad movie guys.

but, it kind of is.

 

[jmc]

I kinda get what was being said now. There is a sense of mediocrity going around with franchises these days, studios are willing to do enough to ensure a franchise keeps running, but not take big enough leaps to really deliver great films there and then. It's vanilla film making.

 

[Drz]

This was such a good movie. Loved the perspective of the story they took to tell.

 

[Warhammer]

So I just came back from seeing it...

Pros:

Everyone did a great job in the acting department, particularly Michael Keaton. That man stood out among the rest. Keaton needs to be in more mainstream movies. I enjoyed that Padilha didn't try to copy Verhoeven's satire and instead, made a satire of political talk shows. I also liked how the plot tried to be different instead of a carbon copy of the original. They didn't try to capture the idea of a ghost in the machine in the same way. I'll give the film points for that.

Cons:

We'll never know how much the whole studio interference ordeal that Padilha alluded to greatly influenced the final product, but this film was mediocre. A mediocre film is a waste of my money. If it's a waste of my money, then I feel cheated. It's a disturbing trend that we are seeing lately. More and more of these remakes are simply mediocre. There was nothing particularly refreshing or profound about this film that made it necessarily remade. This was Total Recall (2012) all over again.

If I had to rate it out of 10, it easily gets a 5. It wasn't stellar nor was it abysmal. It's just lurking in between somewhere.

Rating: 5/10

 

[jmc]

So did this flop?

 

[DA_Champion]

So I just came back from seeing it...

Pros:

Everyone did a great job in the acting department, particularly Michael Keaton. That man stood out among the rest. Keaton needs to be in more mainstream movies. I enjoyed that Padilha didn't try to copy Verhoeven's satire and instead, made a satire of political talk shows. I also liked how the plot tried to be different instead of a carbon copy of the original. They didn't try to capture the idea of a ghost in the machine in the same way. I'll give the film points for that.

Cons:

We'll never know how much the whole studio interference ordeal that Padilha alluded to greatly influenced the final product, but this film was mediocre. A mediocre film is a waste of my money. If it's a waste of my money, then I feel cheated. It's a disturbing trend that we are seeing lately. More and more of these remakes are simply mediocre. There was nothing particularly refreshing or profound about this film that made it necessarily remade. This was Total Recall (2012) all over again.

If I had to rate it out of 10, it easily gets a 5. It wasn't stellar nor was it abysmal. It's just lurking in between somewhere.

Rating: 5/10

I think that this was a lot better than Total Recall.

 

[Poni_Boy]

So did this flop?

Not yet but it looks like that's inevitable

 

[Poni_Boy]

So I just came back from seeing it...

Pros:

Everyone did a great job in the acting department, particularly Michael Keaton. That man stood out among the rest. Keaton needs to be in more mainstream movies. I enjoyed that Padilha didn't try to copy Verhoeven's satire and instead, made a satire of political talk shows. I also liked how the plot tried to be different instead of a carbon copy of the original. They didn't try to capture the idea of a ghost in the machine in the same way. I'll give the film points for that.

Cons:

We'll never know how much the whole studio interference ordeal that Padilha alluded to greatly influenced the final product, but this film was mediocre. A mediocre film is a waste of my money. If it's a waste of my money, then I feel cheated. It's a disturbing trend that we are seeing lately. More and more of these remakes are simply mediocre. There was nothing particularly refreshing or profound about this film that made it necessarily remade. This was Total Recall (2012) all over again.

If I had to rate it out of 10, it easily gets a 5. It wasn't stellar nor was it abysmal. It's just lurking in between somewhere.

Rating: 5/10

I agree with this. If for nothing else the movie is worth watching for all the Keaton/Oldman scenes.

 

[MrMaooz]

I found Keaton so damn likable right up [BLACKOUT]until the ending[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Poni_Boy]

Because his character turn made no sense whatsoever

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Those be some spoilers. Cover up boys.

 

[DA_Champion]

The character I didn't like was the bald guy lobbying for a pure robot army. I found him totally useless.

 

[MrMaooz]

The character I didn't like was the bald guy lobbying for a pure robot army. I found him totally useless.

I wanted Robo [BLACKOUT]to kill the chief of the police, but then I was so pissed when the bald guy pulled the plug.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The BO numbers are so disappointing, I really enjoyed the movie and think a sequel could be really good as well (and no, I didnt go into this movie thinking about the sequel, but once it ended I wanted one).

Overseas numbers and WOM can be its only saving grace now it seems.

Also Poni_Boy I wouldnt say Keatons turn at the end came out of no were, this was the guy that earlier in the movie wanted Robocop destroyed so he could go out as a hero, he was pretty evil throughout.