RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

[TheBeastWithin]

People that said this film was "gore-less" obviously need to start wearing glasses, though it wasn't a lot there was blood splatter in this movie.

Agreed. In the warehouse scene, everyone was using 50 cal machine guns, including Robo. 50 cal does not leave a small hole ha. It's not gory, no. It's violent and intense.

 

[Teelie]

Blood splatter isn't gore though. It's... blood splatter. I think gore would be considered body parts, internal organs, tissue, etc. A movie can be bloody but not gory. I'll probably be seeing it tomorrow so I'll know if it fits my definition or not.

 

[TWayneP]

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Robo slaughtered everyone in that warehouse sequence! While taking a beating. I know people will argue that it was bloodless because it was all shot in the dark and through infrared/nightvision but I kind of think that only heightened the intensity and made sense with his capabilities.

Now that I've had time to think, this part may just be my favorite part. Everything leading up to it, jetting off on the bike and just busting the **** through like a complete boss.

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and even the scenes afterward before he's shutdown by Maddox.

Holy crap was that scene just amazing to me. I just loved the creativity and action In that particular scene. The payoff at the end with robo turning on the light was just an epic hero moment to me. He looked ****ing awesome.

 

[def28]

People that said this film was "gore-less" obviously need to start wearing glasses, though it wasn't a lot there was blood splatter in this movie.

Like Teelie said Blood splatter is not gore. This film did a decent job getting away with some things, but it's still hiding the violence with it's rating a considerable amount with shooting in the dark, Stun guns, robot on robot kills and cutting away.

The most gruesome things in the film were not the actual scenes of shooting/fighting but the scenes of Alex getting worked on.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

Now that I've had time to think, this part may just be my favorite part. Everything leading up to it, jetting off on the bike and just busting the **** through like a complete boss.

Spoiler

and even the scenes afterward before he's shutdown by Maddox.

Holy crap was that scene just amazing to me. I just loved the creativity and action In that particular scene. The payoff at the end with robo turning on the light was just an epic hero moment to me. He looked ****ing awesome.

What makes it even better was he was genuinely pissed off by the time he enters the warehouse. He's making his turn and regaining his humanity after he's confronted by Clara and watching David while simultaneously solving his own murder and uncovering corruption.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Like Teelie said Blood splatter is not gore. This film did a decent job getting away with some things, but it's still hiding the violence with it's rating a considerable amount with shooting in the dark, Stun guns, robot on robot kills and cutting away.

The most gruesome things in the film were not the actual scenes of shooting/fighting but the scenes of Alex getting worked on.

Yep. I was expecting PG13 fighting violence but it was actually way more toned down than I thought it would be. The IR scene in the third warehouse shootout was probably the best one but it wasn't anything special

 

[Slushy]

Its a poor's man RoboCop therefore I'll shall call it...HoboCop!

 

[Octoberist]

Bad Cop, HoboCop

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Blood splatter isn't gore though. It's... blood splatter. I think gore would be considered body parts, internal organs, tissue, etc. A movie can be bloody but not gory. I'll probably be seeing it tomorrow so I'll know if it fits my definition or not.

I guess by definition, blood splatter is just that.....gore. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news

gore noun


noun: gore; plural noun: gores

1. 1.
   blood that has been shed, esp. as a result of violence.
   
   
   
   

 

[Octoberist]

Personally, my definition of 'gore' has to be something gratuitous and explicitly graphic.

 

[def28]

Yep. I was expecting PG13 fighting violence but it was actually way more toned down than I thought it would be. The IR scene in the third warehouse shootout was probably the best one but it wasn't anything special

Agreed, none of the shoot outs impressed me or were that exciting. The one in the dark just made me think of how much more effective the blackout scene in the much lower budget Kick Ass was with Hitgirl saving Big Daddy. Nothing new or really terrible. Just meh, and seen it done better.

The pre Robocop action scenes I actually thought were better handled and intense, which made it more disappointing for me by the films close.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Personally, my definition of 'gore' has to be something gratuitous and explicitly graphic.

Hey just going by the book, you know the actual definition of the word.

 

[Kane52630]

Its a poor's man RoboCop therefore I'll shall call it...HoboCop!

Bad Cop, HoboCop

 

[Van Petrol]

Wasn't Rutger Hauer up for the role back in 87?

 

[def28]

I guess by definition, blood splatter is just that.....gore. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news

gore noun


noun: gore; plural noun: gores

1. 1.
   blood that has been shed, esp. as a result of violence.

1. 
   

   Hey just going by the book, you know the actual definition of the word.

   
   Google Gory and the definitions that show should be along the lines of covered/drenched in blood or showing alot of violnece. It means a gratuitous amount. That's why everyone has used it that way.
   
   gory adjective \ˈgȯr-ē\
   : having or showing a lot of violence and blood
   gor·i·ergor·i·est
   
   Full Definition of GORY
   
   1
   : covered with gore : bloodstained
   2
   : bloodcurdling, sensational

 

[chintai80]

i think in a way, the movie District 9 is a spiritual successor to robocop 87, because it was a movie that also critiqued society, politics, modern media by using sci-fi and over the top gore.

i remember seeing it in theaters, and sorta feeling...there's a bit of a "robocop" feel to all this and i like it. it's so in your face. not sure if I am the only one to feel this way?

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It still has to do with blood being shed, and states nothing specifically about organs spilling out or anything of that nature like Teelie was saying, that was my point gore is gore man wether it's a lot or just a little blood spray, and I'm sure the MPAA would agree with me .

 

[Octoberist]

i think in a way, the movie District 9 is a spiritual successor to robocop 87, because it was a movie that also critiqued society, politics, modern media by using sci-fi and over the top gore.

i remember seeing it in theaters, and sorta feeling...there's a bit of a "robocop" feel to all this and i like it. it's so in your face. not sure if I am the only one to feel this way?

That and the new DREDD.

 

[def28]

It still has to do with blood being shed, and states nothing specifically about organs spilling out or anything of that nature like Teelie was saying, that was my point gore is gore man wether it's a lot or just a little blood spray, and I'm sure the MPAA would agree with me .

It's more like clotted bloodshed though, there is a difference.

That and the new DREDD.

That movie had the attitude this film was missing.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It's more like clotted bloodshed though, there is a difference.

If you say so but my point is that the new Robocop was NOT blood-less or gore-less to an extent which many people were claiming.

That and the new DREDD.

Well a lot of the original Robocop had a lot of Dredd influence to the character so it's no surpsise 20 some years later that the new Dredd would seem a little but like Robo.

 

[def28]

If you say so but my point is that the new Robocop was NOT blood-less or gore-less to an extent which many people were claiming.

Gotcha, fair enough.

 

[Octoberist]

Bad Cop, Gore Cop.

 

[TWayneP]

i think in a way, the movie District 9 is a spiritual successor to robocop 87, because it was a movie that also critiqued society, politics, modern media by using sci-fi and over the top gore.

i remember seeing it in theaters, and sorta feeling...there's a bit of a "robocop" feel to all this and i like it. it's so in your face. not sure if I am the only one to feel this way?

Absolutely. I felt the same way watching D9 in theaters. Especially when the whole alien hand thing happened. At that time a robocop remake wasn't on the radar so my imagination was running wild while watching it. I'm such a diehard fan of robocop that it's all I could think about while watching a movie that's slightly similar to it lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Nonsense. A great character is a great character despite its rich history. If he's great "once" guess what... He's still great. Batman and superman have had their fair share of crap interpretations. And Only a few truly great ones in 75 + years. Robo has only been around for about 27 years. So why don't we Let Robocop have a rich history then, and interpretations have to start somewhere. It is now and I hope it continues.

Robocop is fantastic as a character in this film, the whole movie revolves around him, and he gets to breath. In fact the new film is a prime example of WHY Alex Murphy is such an amazing character. Just because he hasn't had as "rich" of a history as batman or superman, means nothing.

Batman and Superman live outside of their medium, outside of their time. The reinvention of Batman throughout the years is almost always eventually met with public approval. Whether it is in comics, on the big screen, on television or in video games. Superman is considered almost irrelevant in this day and age. His last movie was received with varying degrees of success. It still pulled $668mil. Robocop's "greatness" so far is a moment in time, that is intrinsically tied to the original film and its place.

This film is going to need to make an impact relative to the original film to finally show that Robocop's relevance isn't limited to the original film. Because this is what, the 4th film project after the first movie. If you are batting 1 out of 5 on the quality and relevance scale, that isn't greatness.

 

[Poni_Boy]

My attitude towards all these movies is once you do it right I really don't care about it being remade. The first Judge Dredd movie was horrible. The remake vindicated the property. The first True Grit was great, but it was really just a typical John Wayne movie. The remake was a big improvement, and what I consider the true adaptation. Sequels for the sake of sequels, remakes for the sake of remakes, are not for me unless there's a creative vision driving it and that vision makes it to the screen. I'd rather see ten Elysiums (which I didn't really care for at all) over any of these money grab movies. That being said, there are a bunch of movies that can be remade in an effort to better the originals. But those aren't the ones the studios seem to be targeting.