RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

[Travesty]

Bad Cop, HoboCop

Bad Cop, Gore Cop.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My attitude towards all these movies is once you do it right I really don't care about it being remade. The first Judge Dredd movie was horrible. The remake vindicated the property. The first True Grit was great, but it was really just a typical John Wayne movie. The remake was a big improvement, and what I consider the true adaptation. Sequels for the sake of sequels, remakes for the sake of remakes, are not for me unless there's a creative vision driving it and that vision makes it to the screen. I'd rather see ten Elysiums (which I didn't really care for at all) over any of these money grab movies. That being said, there are a bunch of movies that can be remade in an effort to better the originals. But those aren't the ones the studios seem to be targeting.

There is less risk to go middle of the road. Enough people will check out the "new vision" that they will make a profit, as long as you can cut a halfway decent trailer. Look at the new Evil Dead. Rarely do you get a Total Recall situation where the studio spent stupid money.

 

[chintai80]

My attitude towards all these movies is once you do it right I really don't care about it being remade. The first Judge Dredd movie was horrible. The remake vindicated the property. The first True Grit was great, but it was really just a typical John Wayne movie. The remake was a big improvement, and what I consider the true adaptation. Sequels for the sake of sequels, remakes for the sake of remakes, are not for me unless there's a creative vision driving it and that vision makes it to the screen. I'd rather see ten Elysiums (which I didn't really care for at all) over any of these money grab movies. That being said, there are a bunch of movies that can be remade in an effort to better the originals. But those aren't the ones the studios seem to be targeting.

studios should be taking a movie that was terrible or just ok and remaking it into some awesome. because the bar is set so low, you can only go up from there.

 

[Octoberist]

It's always about the now, not the legacy. That's the studio's attitude right now.

 

[Octoberist]

GRRRRR!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

studios should be taking a movie that was terrible or just ok and remaking it into some awesome. because the bar is set so low, you can only go up from there.

As a film goer, I just want great films.

 

[Octoberist]

That's TV shows now (most of them anyway) are so good because they share the same storytelling attitude as American films in the 70's.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's always about the now, not the legacy. That's the studio's attitude right now.

It is a combination. It is about cashing in on the legacy in conjunction with that is "hot" right now.

The older properties getting Batman Begins'ed.

That's TV shows now (most of them anyway) are so good because they share the same storytelling attitude as American films in the 70's.

I wouldn't say most, but more then ever there is an abundance of quality story telling on television.

 

[Poni_Boy]

studios should be taking a movie that was terrible or just ok and remaking it into some awesome. because the bar is set so low, you can only go up from there.

Bingo. Turn a non-starter into a franchise, not the other way around.

 

[Octoberist]

That's why we have a lack of original and ICONIC modern film characters. Now we rely on Tarantino to create them for us, while the 70's/80's gave us Indiana Jones, Marty McFly, Ferris Bueller, the cast of Star Wars, E.T., Gizmo, John McClaine, The Terminator, Ghostbusters, Ducky, and the list goes on.

In terms of iconic characters, look no further than TV at this point with Walter White. Put on the black fedora and sunglasses at a Halloween party and people will instantly know who you are.

And I would venture to include iconic characters from adaptations at this point, including Katniss, Harry Potter or Game of Thrones. Book adaptations are the new 'Original' movies for Hollywood.

 

[Poni_Boy]

It's always about the now, not the legacy. That's the studio's attitude right now.

Yep. It's about MGM solely doing remakes right now instead of new movies. That's why they're developing so many of these at a time.

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's why we have a lack of original and ICONIC modern film characters. Now we rely on Tarantino to create them for us, while the 70's/80's gave us Indiana Jones, Marty McFly, Ferris Bueller, the cast of Star Wars, E.T., Gizmo, John McClaine, The Terminator, Ghostbusters, Ducky, and the list goes on.

In terms of iconic characters, look no further than TV at this point with Walter White. Put on the black fedora and sunglasses at a Halloween party and people will instantly know who you are.

And I would venture to include iconic characters from adaptations at this point, including Katniss, Harry Potter or Game of Thrones. Book adaptations are the new 'Original' movies for Hollywood.

Yep. Which is why it's so funny to me when people get defensive about TV over feature films in terms of iconography. Movies are here to stay. There's no question. But this new age of serialized entertainment is getting an unprecedented reception from the masses, and that's making the studios very scared to take risks with new movies.

Just look at all the theatrically released remakes in the past few years:

http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/remake/2014/

http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/remake/2013/

http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/remake/2012/

http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/remake/2011/

And that's not counting the 21 Jump Street/Man from UNCLE/Get Smart TV adaptations, current slate of remakes/sequels in the works like Terminator, Gremlins, Escape from NY, Poltergeist, Die Hard 5, etc, etc

 

[Octoberist]

God I hope Escape from NY stays buried, but it's just a matter a time when it gets green lit.

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's why (sorry to the folks who loved this new Robo movie) I hope it doesn't do well. They're looking at the reception of this thing to see whether to greenlight the rest they have planned including Escape/NY, War Games, Roadhouse, Stargate and Ben-hur

 

[chintai80]

ben-hur wtf.
are they going to make into like gladiator?
that would be stupid.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Of course they will. Who wants to see a three hour dramatic movie when instead you can add nonstop ZOMG action stuffs?

 

[Octoberist]

The most puzzling is Road House, me thinks.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Don't get me started on that. They're also trying to remake Network too but can't find a screenwriter

 

[Teelie]

I guess by definition, blood splatter is just that.....gore. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news

gore noun


noun: gore; plural noun: gores

1. 1.
   blood that has been shed, esp. as a result of violence.

When referring to movies it's usually seen as more than just blood.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

Huge fx breakdown

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/robocop-redux-inside-the-films-biggest-scenes/

 

[chintai80]

i should avoid that link until i have seen the movie. haha

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So apparently the movie is in for a $45 million opening weekend, I hope so, as thats a pretty good start. Although they think the weather in North America may effect that, but hopefully not by much.

How much did this movie cost in the end? I remember the initial budget was $100 million, but dont know if they ended up spending more.

 

[chintai80]

they have been marketing the hell out of this, so i bet a substantial amount of the budget went to that. i think i heard around ballpark of $150 mil total.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well its barely been marketed here in Australia, so you never know, anyway I think a $45 million opening weekend would be a pretty good start.

 

[Raiden]

Box Office Mojo:

Wednesday, February 12:

1. Robocop - $2,808,698
2. The LEGO Movie - $2,186,224
3. The Monuments Men - $1,448,647