RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

[SpideyZERO]

On second viewing, I notice that Alex managed to overpower his system restriction and pulled the trigger, with his hand. Human spirit triumphs machine. Kinda neat

 

[Reel-Man]

no after credits scene. enough questions, just go watch it man!

Was wondering if there's a point in spending 5-10 extra minutes for a scene that never comes. Movie will be seen when I have some time off from work.

 

[Saint]

Although I knew for certain this wasn't going to be the Robocop film I wanted (at all, ever) I guess I also hoped that, by the end of the film, maybe I'd be looking at something that was a little more recognizable as being Robocop. That wasn't the case. As feared, they removed pretty much everything that I liked about the original film and the character. Certainly, it lacked the wit and character.

As a film, it was fine. It was a pretty by-the-numbers superhero movie. Reasonably enjoyable as such. That's actually part of why I'm so unsatisfied--even if it was never going to be a real Robocop film, it would have been nice if it at least took some risks and tried to find it's own identity.

Gotta say, though, that silver suit is bloody fantastic. Too bad it wasn't part of a better movie.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It's not a profit if it isn't getting back domestic BO so no sequel.

International BO, home video makes up the lost but it's not a true indicator to go ahead with another movie.

I think it'll get a sequel. I see this film racking up 260-280 million when it's said and done. Sony and MGM have very little outside Spiderman anyways.

 

[Saint]

As an addendum, the only time I even noticed the soundtrack was when they teased the classic theme. That's a pretty disappointing score.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I think it'll get a sequel. I see this film racking up 260-280 million when it's said and done. Sony and MGM have very little outside Spiderman anyways.

$260 total gross with mediocre reviews and general audience apathy? No way they'll make a sequel. If it tops $320 mil WW then I'd give it a fighting chance. But the damned thing didn't even open at #2 its first weekend

 

[Paradox1]

$260 total gross with mediocre reviews and general audience apathy? No way they'll make a sequel. If it tops $320 mil WW then I'd give it a fighting chance. But the damned thing didn't even open at #2 its first weekend

For that I say 5 resident evil movies. I say 5

 

[Poni_Boy]

For that I say 5 resident evil movies. I say 5

You mean Resident Evil 1 that made $105 mil off a $30 mil budget and opened #2 at the BO? Or RE2 that made $130 off a $45 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? Or RE3 that made $150 off a $45 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? or RE4 that made $270 off a $60 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? or RE5 that made $240 mil off a $65 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO?

None of those cost what RoboCop did. All of them made over 3x their budget. None of those were met with the general audience apathy that Robo did. Were reviews more positive for Robo? Of course. But the RE movies weren't put out for critics. Just like the Twilight movies weren't.

 

[jacobed]

$260 total gross with mediocre reviews and general audience apathy? No way they'll make a sequel. If it tops $320 mil WW then I'd give it a fighting chance. But the damned thing didn't even open at #2 its first weekend

The audience seems to really enjoy the movie and of course it opened number 3, look what it had to go up against. I thought it did pretty decent all things considering. I think and hope there will be a sequel

 

[Poni_Boy]

The audience seems to really enjoy the movie and of course it opened number 3, look what it had to go up against. I thought it did pretty decent all things considering. I think and hope there will be a sequel

Apathy doesn't mean reception, it means the GA overall just didn't want to go out and see it. And if you look at the GA reception on aggregate sites like RT it's had a mediocre reception from the people who actually did go to see it.

Liking or not liking it has nothing to do with it. Just calling a spade a spade. For whatever reason people just seem disinterested. At least with Dredd failing at the BO the reception from those who saw it was phenomenal.

 

[chintai80]

yea, i enjoyed the movie myself and hope their would be sequels. but in the end, movie making is still a business.

but if this remake does not do well, at least a positive outcome out of this is it might tell the studios: if you're going to try to remake a movie into a tentpole franchise, you either go big or go home.

of course, that's always easier said than done...

 

[Paradox1]

You mean Resident Evil 1 that made $105 mil off a $30 mil budget and opened #2 at the BO? Or RE2 that made $130 off a $45 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? Or RE3 that made $150 off a $45 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? or RE4 that made $270 off a $60 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO? or RE5 that made $240 mil off a $65 mil budget and opened #1 at the BO?

None of those cost what RoboCop did. All of them made over 3x their budget. None of those were met with the general audience apathy that Robo did. Were reviews more positive for Robo? Of course. But the RE movies weren't put out for critics. Just like the Twilight movies weren't.

Let me start when it comes to art sales number are no indication of quality. With that said A Good Day to Die Hard released last year on valentines opened to 24.6 million domestically which won the number spot. That movie went on to make 304 million world 78% of that coming form overseas markets. Robocop opened domestically to as low as 21million depending on your source or as high 30.2. Even in this crowded movie weekend with a deadly snowstorm it compared quite favorably.

 

[DA_Champion]

I thought Dredd was pretty mediocre, with its really small story of taking over a single apartment building, and its lack of characters. I think the internet rave for Dredd is due to the fact that so few people saw it that they must have been the fanboy core.

 

[DA_Champion]

Robocop was a good but not great movie for me. I was hoping to see some analysis on Hype explaining why it fails but so far there isn't much. Just a flurry of people saying "surprisingly good ! 8/10 !" countered by others saying it's not as good as the original.

I'm interested in explanations as to why the movie doesn't rock.

 

[dark_b]

I thought Dredd was pretty mediocre, with its really small story of taking over a single apartment building, and its lack of characters. I think the internet rave for Dredd is due to the fact that so few people saw it that they must have been the fanboy core.

Dredd IMO was the best small scale movie that it could have been. Robocop fails as a big movie IMO. thats why we love Dredd.

''go big or go extinct ''

 

[Superman_200]

Robocop was a good but not great movie for me. I was hoping to see some analysis on Hype explaining why it fails but so far there isn't much. Just a flurry of people saying "surprisingly good ! 8/10 !" countered by others saying it's not as good as the original.

I'm interested in explanations as to why the movie doesn't rock.

Spoiler

I think the movie is a solid 6/10. It is not bad really if it were not a RoboCop movie, but by calling him RoboCop and making him look like the RoboCop from the original movie, then you will automatically compare one to the other.

That being said, the main reasons for me that the movie "doesn't rock" is first of all, he wakes up and he is knows right off the bat that he is Alex Murphy. The whole "robot" part of him is simply his body. Not his mentality or anything like that which makes him really go from "RoboCop" to just being a man with a robot body who thinks like a man, and acts like a man for the most part until they tinker with his emotions. But sure enough, he fights it like they say in the trailer.

The journey of RoboCop to finding out that he is a man is probably the most compelling part of the original movie. In this one, "What kind of suit is this?" So basically it is a man in a black Iron-Man suit he can't remove.

Secondly for me, the whole story with his family in the middle and all that didn't seem very interesting. He comes home, he leaves, etc. His face showing in the whole movie also humanizes him so much that it just makes it feel like he is a man in a suit the whole time.

Then there is the predictability of the movie. I think anyone could have predicted what was going to happen. As soon as you meet Michael Keaton, you know what will happen. As soon as you mean Jackie Earl's character you know what will happen to him.

I think they honestly should have made a different "RoboCop" movie. If they were going to go with this tone for the movie, it should have been an R-rated movie, and much less of an action movie and more of a sci-fi thriller. To watch a man shoot up other robots, and shoot up this and that has been done a lot. But if they had focused on the journey of him solving the murder of Alex Murphy and kept the audience in suspense as to what happened to his family for example, that may have worked better. I would have had something happen to his family. I would have liked to see it be more of a drama if they were going to go serious with the movie, okay, then go dramatic, not "hey this is the bad guy, he is gonna get it and his minions too because look he is fast and can shoot".

I think the movie lacked a lot of heart, and it seemed like just another generic action movie.

 

[dark_b]

holly s... . yes the movie should be only about him solving his murder.

 

[DA_Champion]

Yeah that's what I wrote in my review. The movie would be better if it ended with him hunting down Vallon.

 

[dark_b]

imagine if the movie starts with the scene with Norton and Murphy in the lab. at the end they could add a twist who killed him. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr hollywoooooooooood

 

[Superman_200]

holly s... . yes the movie should be only about him solving his murder.

I would have left it at that, and then finally he discovers who he may have been and who turned him into the machine and just end it with him realizing who Alex Murphy really is, cut to black and leave the audience hanging and wanting more similar to "Kill Bill 1", or "All is Lost" or "Hunger Games 2". If you leave it at that in a sequel then you could have him battle OCP.

 

[Teelie]

Let me start when it comes to art sales number are no indication of quality. With that said A Good Day to Die Hard released last year on valentines opened to 24.6 million domestically which won the number spot. That movie went on to make 304 million world 78% of that coming form overseas markets. Robocop opened domestically to as low as 21million depending on your source or as high 30.2. Even in this crowded movie weekend with a deadly snowstorm it compared quite favorably.

The numbers I'm seeing aren't even that great. $21.5-7 million with a total of $30.3 million estimated over nearly a week.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Yeah that's what I wrote in my review. The movie would be better if it ended with him hunting down Vallon.

that would have required them to make Vallon an interesting character and villain, which they failed completely at. Not that they accomplished it any better with Michael Keaton's character.

The lack of a compelling villain was one of the movie's biggest failures.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

Robocop 2014 concept art by Alliance Studio. Now I know why Robo looked so much like a video game character.


http://alliancestudio.net/


https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.262701297232740.1073741827.129141483922056&type=1

 

[Paradox1]

The numbers I'm seeing aren't even that great. $21.5-7 million with a total of $30.3 million estimated over nearly a week.

Ok it made 21 million over the weekend gotcha. Anyway my point still holds water cause if you compare the numbers from a A Good Day to Die hard and this movie they compare favorably. If it can hold it's overseas numbers it will do more than fine and we can see a total BO in the 250-300million.

 

[Superman_200]

that would have required them to make Vallon an interesting character and villain, which they failed completely at. Not that they accomplished it any better with Michael Keaton's character.

The lack of a compelling villain was one of the movie's biggest failures.

To be honest with you, I am not sure why Vallon was a bad guy. I lost track of it. Was he a drug dealer? Mafia? Street gang leader? What exactly was he?

I would have been more interested if Vallon may have been part of a gang, in true reference to the 80's.

I like the thought that the movie "Colors" used that gangs are like a force of nature, always present simply fighting over territory. I would have liked the gang to be portrayed more like the gangs in movies like "Colors" rather than like the "gang" from the original RoboCop. They don't need to have such a direct connection to OCP or anything like that.

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