Days of Future Past Should DOFP be used to reboot the X-Men franchise?

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Right this is how i see it, some are being petty minded because they are butt hurt at the possibility of continuity change but overall it doesn't mean anything for the OT in terms of another movie and i'm gonna choose my words wisely when i say this because as someone in another thread said "People love to take things and twist them to fit whatever they want here".

if there isn't a FC3 film i think DOFP is a fine film for them to end on because it seems very character focused and strong character develpment for them, but its clear mcavoy believes they will be making a 3rd movie he has said confidently at least twice and he has also spoken that his xaviers character arc is about him reaching his destiny, added with the fact they have 1 more film on contract and that there is an obvious next step for them staring you in the face which could even explain the possible return of [BLACKOUT]cyclops and jean[/BLACKOUT] in the new timeline, but can i see it going beyond 3? i have my doubts

while with the OT the rumoured ending doesn't close a door on them, singer may end up sacrificing some continuity to do it but overall there is still life there with a fresh template they can go a new direction with maybe 1 or 2 films, and its clear singer wants the FC cast to play it believably close to the OT versions so its a believable growth so again i'l say they ain't pushing away the chance for a return

everyone needs to chill out

You say people are butt hurt at the idea of continuity changes, but I say it's just the opposite - there are so many people who are pro-reboot, pro-continuity wipe because they've been butt hurt over X-Men 3 for the past 8 years.

In no other way would wiping continuity be seen as an acceptable means of progressing the story. But because everyone is bitter about Cyclops being killed, they are celebrating destroying the credibility of the franchise just to shoehorn one character back into the mix.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The people who don't want a reboot are a minority.Just look at votes In this thread.

Hollywood and audences are so reboot crazy right now.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Really? There's so much hate against both the Superman and Spider-Man reboots, not to mention the F4 reboot and the Batman one incoming which had the internet in a meldown when they casted Affleck.

From what i've seen people are decidedly against reboots.

You say people are butt hurt at the idea of continuity changes, but I say it's just the opposite - there are so many people who are pro-reboot, pro-continuity wipe because they've been butt hurt over X-Men 3 for the past 8 years.

In no other way would wiping continuity be seen as an acceptable means of progressing the story. But because everyone is bitter about Cyclops being killed, they are celebrating destroying the credibility of the franchise just to shoehorn one character back into the mix.

Bring him back and keep the rest of the continuity before his death in tact. Simple

Right now is THE biggest time in CBMs. Fox will be planning movies to take advantage of that.

I'd bet anything they are planning things behind the scenes to re-invigorate the franchise. But i don't see them completely wiping away everything they've done so far to do it.

Imo, as far as they'll go will be to skew the continuity into an alternate timeline to free up things.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Really? There's so much hate against both the Superman and Spider-Man reboots, not to mention the F4 reboot and the Batman one incoming which had the internet in a meldown when they casted Afleck.

so much hate towards the originals also, esp fantastic 4, you just can't win

 

[marvelrobbins]

Really? There's so much hate against both the Superman and Spider-Man reboots, not to mention the F4 reboot and the Batman one incoming which had the internet in a meldown when they casted Afleck.

On Internet most are In my favor for man of steel.I am defently In minority
who think man of steel wasn't that great.If you did poll between Superman(1978) VS man of steel I am sure man of steel would win.I am In minority on this board.Obviously critics agree with me.

With the amazing Spider-man yeah there was somewhat of a backlash for doing reboot.

The FF reboot Isn't unpopular here because it's a reboot it's because fox and not disney Is doing it

with batman backlash Is because
a:They can't let go of films Ben Affleck did a decade ago
B:because it's clear BatmanVSuperman Is a batman & Superman film/Justice league prelude not another solo superman film

Not because they are against another Batman reboot.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Good points.

Question: At what year could they set a possible FC3 and be able introduce a young Cyke, Jean and Storm.

They were around their late twenties in X1 which was set lets say sometime in the 2000s

Would 1985 fit to have 15 year old Originals (minus Iceman)?

 

[marvelrobbins]

Despite James marsden's real life age I always viewed them as being in their 30's In OT.

If they want to try to fit ages In OT with DOFP given a 2023 date by SInger and viral site
It suggests OT took pplace in 2012/2013 with singer's 10 years after last stand comments.
It has to be In late 1980's to fit.

Of course they may just ignore ages If rumored ending pans out.that's part of reason I have been against a Trek 2009 like situation.

 

[Eros]

Despite James marsden's real life age I always viewed them as being in their 30's In OT.

If they want to try to fit ages In OT with DOFP given a 2023 date by SInger and viral site
It suggests OT took pplace in 2012/2013 with singer's 10 years after last stand comments.
It has to be In late 1980's to fit.

Of course they may just ignore ages If rumored ending pans out.that's part of reason I have been against a Trek 2009 like situation.

Jean was 30 in X:3.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Right this is how i see it, some are being petty minded because they are butt hurt at the possibility of continuity change but overall it doesn't mean anything for the OT in terms of another movie and i'm gonna choose my words wisely when i say this because as someone in another thread said "People love to take things and twist them to fit whatever they want here".

if there isn't a FC3 film i think DOFP is a fine film for them to end on because it seems very character focused and strong character develpment for them, but its clear mcavoy believes they will be making a 3rd movie he has said confidently at least twice and he has also spoken that his xaviers character arc is about him reaching his destiny, added with the fact they have 1 more film on contract and that there is an obvious next step for them staring you in the face which could even explain the possible return of [BLACKOUT]cyclops and jean[/BLACKOUT] in the new timeline, but can i see it going beyond 3? i have my doubts

while with the OT the rumoured ending doesn't close a door on them, singer may end up sacrificing some continuity to do it but overall there is still life there with a fresh template they can go a new direction with maybe 1 or 2 films, and its clear singer wants the FC cast to play it believably close to the OT versions so its a believable growth so again i'l say they ain't pushing away the chance for a return

everyone needs to chill out

So? Stewart and McKellen also said they'd love to come back. To which the rest of the OT cast, in a chorus, "So would I?"

 

[GuestStar2004]

So? Stewart and McKellen also said they'd love to come back. To which the rest of the OT cast, in a chorus, "So would I?"

i have no idea what this event was but anyway its a case of mcavoy just sounding confident about it when he really shouldn't seeing as he shouldn't know whats happening next, but of course that could be down to his 3 deal contract and he is guessing he is coming back but he has spoken out about it infront of singer, stewart and mckellen so he probably made a fool of himself if he was wrong, and i'm assuming anyone with any brains would have questioned singer about whether they would be back before speaking out about it

 

[EnDz0n3]

It was onstage at SDCC.

 

[kasjan]

When someone compare movie character age to real life actor age

Peters is older than Till.
Peters plays teenager in DOFP, Till plays 25+ Havok.

Jean wasn't 30 in X3.
,,20 years ago" in 2006, not ,,20 years earlier" to X3 events.
She was 12 in first scene, 20 years before 2006 so in 1986. She was 32 in 2006. X3 is around 2010-2013, so she was 36-39 in X3.
Cyclops is older, he was more than 15 in 1985 (Origins).
Storm can be the same age as Cyclops.
So all three are teenagers in 80's.

 

[Mr.M]

I can gurante you If they trek 2009 with film contunity they aren't going to do another film
In old timeline.What would you point? Do another story that has nothing to do with new contunity of series? A film that ending of DOFP says now never happened?

There haven't been any Trek projects set In prime timeline since trek 2009,and unlikely there will any.The new wolverine will be set in new timeline.That defeats purpose of
new timeline hinted at by rumored ending.

I doudt they will keep wolverine out of full X_Men films because of Jennifer Lawrence,who I suspect will be done with X-Men after her 3 film deal expires,doesn't want to play second fiddle.Because Magneto will be wolverine figure most likely of FC3 and any other FC sequels based on rumored ending.

Because they may not want to pick up with characters like Jean/Cyke/Storm in the 80's/90's so quickly after we had a recent trilogy with them, regardless if they are teen versions or adult versions. FC 3 may not even feature them, assuming we even get that film, which is in doubt due to the rumored ending (plus the rumored Magneto spinoff to exercise Fassbender and JLaw's contract). Wolverine 3 could still be in the old timeline. Very possible. Why would they want to cover the adamantium procedure again, assuming it's even neccessary? There is a possibility Origins is kept in tact if Stryker finds him again after 1973.

It's gonna be really interesting what the plan is, but like you, I believe this is the last film with the OT cast, and the next X-Men ensemble will be a "reboot" in the new timeline released in the 2020's. I also think FC 3 is kind of pointless unless they are planning to setup another trilogy. They could go with spinoffs in the old timeline before rebooting in the new timeline. But I think Wolverine 3 is the most likely film that could be in the old timeline.

X-Force is probably 2050's with an old Cable in the new timeline. Remains to be seen however. I could also see X-Force taking place between TLS and DoFP (Cable's history may be re-written). It's very possible spinoffs are set in that time period.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Really? There's so much hate against both the Superman and Spider-Man reboots, not to mention the F4 reboot and the Batman one incoming which had the internet in a meldown when they casted Affleck.

From what i've seen people are decidedly against reboots.



Bring him back and keep the rest of the continuity before his death in tact. Simple

Right now is THE biggest time in CBMs. Fox will be planning movies to take advantage of that.

I'd bet anything they are planning things behind the scenes to re-invigorate the franchise. But i don't see them completely wiping away everything they've done so far to do it.

Imo, as far as they'll go will be to skew the continuity into an alternate timeline to free up things.

Yes this place is insane for reboots.

This place has been trying to shoehorn every X-Men movie since X-Men 3 into the role of reboot.

On the Captain America forums, I saw people talking about possibilities for a Cap reboot before the first movie even hit theaters.

This forums asks for reboots for everything, even if the original isn't finished yet.

Its absolutely ridiculous. Reboots are the worst concept Hollywood has come up with and I can't wait until this fad fades away.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Its absolutely ridiculous. Reboots are the worst concept Hollywood has come up with and I can't wait until this fad fades away.

it won't

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

it won't

Then I'll just keep not seeing them

 

[psylockolussus]

If the rumored ending pans out

Spoiler

wolverine's mind returns to 2023 to find school operating with both Xavier and Magneto there.And wolverine seeing Cyclops,Jean,and STorm at mansion

Then the reboot people may get their wish In a Trek 2009 like situation.

Again, what makes you think people would actually think "its reboot" time when they see that ending?

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Again, what makes you think people would actually think "its reboot" time when they see that ending?

Because it's throwing out past continuity and creating an all new one?

Sounds like "reboot" to me.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yeah reboot with the 70s characters? With younger Professor X, younger Magneto, younger Mystique, 70s Wolverine? Heck no.

I doubt the mainstream viewers would view it that way.

 

[kasjan]

Because it's throwing out past continuity and creating an all new one?

Sounds like "reboot" to me.

Yeah, someone can call it reboot. But it will be reboot till late 90's, after that characters would look exactly like in OT (I mean actors), maybe just in different costumes. And in present or future (after 2023) it's OT actors. So since late 90's it's ,,reboot" but with the same actors as in old timeline. So it isn't completely reboot. They won't recast events in 2000's.
For me it's new timeline, call it as you want.

 

[Mr.M]

I really doubt they are going to be releasing X-Men movies taking place in the 70's and 80's when we are in the late 2010's and early 2020's. Why would people want to keep revisiting that era? It's possible we get one more prequel to complete the FC trilogy, but no more than that. Wolverine 3 may also be set in that era, and you could do another Cold War movie with Omega Red, but that's as far as I see it.

I do think the next set of X-Men movies will feature the X-Men in 2023 or whenever. I think they will find veteran actors to fill the roles of Cyke/Storm/Jean/Logan. Whether those actors remain the OT or not remains to be seen, and Xavier/Magneto could either be recasted (if the actors retire) or written out (due to old age and passing). It's not something I see Fox rushing into if DoFP doesn't do gang busters at the box office. Much like the FF reboot, I think they could wait until the very last minute before having to greenlight it else having the rights revert.

I'd recommend you watch you movie at least 15 times with your extended family and friends Psylock...

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

The X-Men movies are like the comics now. They hold on to the continuity worth holding on to, and ditch the stupid stuff no one cares about (like Tyler Mane as mute Sabretooth and Prof. X getting his particles scattered in Last Stand). The other stuff, like characters' ages being off, or different actors portraying the same character, are pretty easy to ignore or make excuses for unless you're a seriously OCD fanboy.

The X-Men films will only need a reboot when Stewart, McKellen and Jackman for health, money or age, are no longer able to portray their roles. They are the only portrayals essential to the current-timeline films. Everyone else like Halle Berry's wooden Storm could be replaced and it wouldn't matter one iota to filmgoers.

I have a feeling this might be the last or second-last current X-Men films with Stewart and McKellen. Jackman, McAvoy, Fassenbender and the others will probably stick around for solo movies or more first (second?) class timeline movies. Can't see any storyline topping Days for sheer epicness though, unless they go full Age of Apocalypse.

 

[Mr.M]

That brings up a good question, how do you top DoFP with the FC cast? I believe it can be done, but it depends. Do you need Wolverine back? I'd say a resounding "no". But FC 3 really needs an epic sized plot that once again spans the globe. I believe Shadow King or Sinister could provide that, but it would appear as a scale down to DoFP. I know for a fact that they won't have the time or the budget to release FC3, X-Force, Wolverine 3, and post DoFP films all in the next 6 years or so, so you have to mix and match.

 

[SuperT]

They don't need to top DOFP moving forward, they just need to make good movies. Iron Man 3 didn't top The Avengers, neither did Thor.

The idea that every movie coming out next needs to top the one previous to it, only sets the franchise out on the wrong path. Make a good movie.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

DoFP should be used to creatively reboot the X-Men franchise.