State your unpopular film related opinion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Batmannerism]

Thanks, yeah although I never watched much TNG, I did see the Borg episodes and I always thought they were cool antagonists so I’ll have to give First Contact a shot. That’s cool that you met Shatner. I’m sure he’s an interesting guy to have a conversation with. His career has certainly been all over the place but I have to say that I respect the guy for just hanging in there so long and trying different things. He was especially great on Boston Legal, back when that was on. It helps that he doesn’t mind poking fun at himself sometimes.

And yeah, Riker is just the worst. At the beginning of the show, he just seemed like a diet version of Kirk (I remember a Mad Magazine parody of TNG back then where they called him Commander Rekirk) and then he just sort of morphed into the boring guy that was just kinda there.

You're right, Shatner does deserve a lot of respect for his tenacity, because he had some real career slumps ( like living in a campervan in the parking lots of theatres while doing travelling shows, and apparently that was after Star Trek). He can never be accused of being lazy or fickle because he pretty much takes whatever work is offered to him ( as his filmography, and discography which includes some real stinkers, suggests).

He is a master storyteller though, and can really hold an audience captive. I saw him when he was down here in 2012, and paid extra for the meet n greet before the show - which is when I asked him about his Shakespearean work in Canada, and he told me about Chris Plummer.

I remember leaving the show quite inspired by his energy and enthusiasm for work - because he had just turned 80 !

But this is a guy who also ruined friendships and was disliked by co workers for his primary Donna attitude. I grew up idolizing him, but if I was offered his success at the cost of some of my friends, I'd turn it down.

Like I said, a complicated guy, but I will miss him when he's gone.

In contrast Jonathan Frakes ( Riker) by all accounts is super nice and very capable and easy to work with ( as director his nickname was " two takes Frakes" ). Yet he played one of the most forgettable Star Trek lead characters - other than that he wore a red shirt for seven seasons of trek and managed not to get killed.

 

[Deck Rickard]

You're right, Shatner does deserve a lot of respect for his tenacity, because he had some real career slumps ( like living in a campervan in the parking lots of theatres while doing travelling shows, and apparently that was after Star Trek). He can never be accused of being lazy or fickle because he pretty much takes whatever work is offered to him ( as his filmography, and discography which includes some real stinkers, suggests).

He is a master storyteller though, and can really hold an audience captive. I saw him when he was down here in 2012, and paid extra for the meet n greet before the show - which is when I asked him about his Shakespearean work in Canada, and he told me about Chris Plummer.

I remember leaving the show quite inspired by his energy and enthusiasm for work - because he had just turned 80 !

But this is a guy who also ruined friendships and was disliked by co workers for his primary Donna attitude. I grew up idolizing him, but if I was offered his success at the cost of some of my friends, I'd turn it down.

Like I said, a complicated guy, but I will miss him when he's gone.

In contrast Jonathan Frakes ( Riker) by all accounts is super nice and very capable and easy to work with ( as director his nickname was " two takes Frakes" ). Yet he played one of the most forgettable Star Trek lead characters - other than that he wore a red shirt for seven seasons of trek and managed not to get killed.

Hahaha maybe that was a running joke in the show; he seemed like the kind of useless guy who could get killed at any minute and yet he didn't, lol. Good to hear he's a decent guy though.

Never heard that Shatner was living out of a van for a while after his big, star-making role. Good on him for never giving up though. That's a pretty amazing work ethic. Still, it sucks that he ruined friendships and such with his prima donna attitude (the Tim Allen character in Galaxy Quest is a pretty obvious Shatner parody), but sadly I think a lot of actors are like that. Some of the ones who turn out to be really arrogant surprise me though, like Tobey Maguire. Having seen most of his filmography, it's still shocking to me that such a nerdy little dude is such an egotistical a**hole in real life.

 

[Guts]

Blade Runner 2049 isn't better than the original.

 

[Bobber]

Blade Runner 2049 isn't better than the original.

That should never be an unpopular opinion.

 

[Holiday]

Big fan of the first movie but I like 2049 better because of the detective story. A lot of people probably figured out the mystery pretty quick but I think it was well done and gives the movie the edge over the original.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Blade Runner 2049 isn't better than the original.

Hardly unpopular.

Blade Runner x Blade Runner 2049 - Blu-ray Forum

But BR49 is a great sequel. Something not many imagined would happen.

 

[Batmannerism]

Blade Runner 2049 isn't better than the original.

That should never be an unpopular opinion.

Big fan of the first movie but I like 2049 better because of the detective story. A lot of people probably figured out the mystery pretty quick but I think it was well done and gives the movie the edge over the original.

Hardly unpopular.

Blade Runner x Blade Runner 2049 - Blu-ray Forum

But BR49 is a great sequel. Something not many imagined would happen.

BR still holds up today as one of the greatest science fiction films of all time.

My unpopular opinion is that 2049 is overrated - it looks amazing ( as in the cinematography) but really is unnecessary. It has some good stuff in it, but I found Gosling's character boring and unengaging. Jared Leto was satisfyingly creepy but otherwise the cast didn't do much for me - especially compared to the performances in BR , especially Rutger Hauer, William Sanderson and Daryl Hannah.

 

[Captain Tired]

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, as I've never even seen the subject raised, but The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi and ESPECIALLY The Rise of Skywalker, have always felt like the kind of cheesy, half-assed titles you'd see plastered over the covers of young adult novels. I dislike all three titles.

 

[Drizzle]

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, as I've never even seen the subject raised, but The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi and ESPECIALLY The Rise of Skywalker, have always felt like the kind of cheesy, half-assed titles you'd see plastered over the covers of young adult novels. I dislike all three titles.

Most, if not all of the Star Wars titles have that cheesy B-movie vibe to them. I'm not a fan of The Rise of Skywalker as a title, but I think The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones sound worse.

 

[Captain Tired]

Yes, cheesy b-movie.

Not young adult, choose your own adventure novels.

And different strokes and all that, but imo, not only are TPM and AOTC vastly superior titles, they're good titles in of themselves.

 

[Batmannerism]

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, as I've never even seen the subject raised, but The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi and ESPECIALLY The Rise of Skywalker, have always felt like the kind of cheesy, half-assed titles you'd see plastered over the covers of young adult novels. I dislike all three titles.

Most, if not all of the Star Wars titles have that cheesy B-movie vibe to them. I'm not a fan of The Rise of Skywalker as a title, but I think The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones sound worse.

IMO "Attack of the Clones" is one of the worst titles of any film, ever. Sounds a lot like " Attack of the Clowns". I remember when it was announced, thinking that someone was taking the piss - and then you see the movie and the horror becomes real.
Worst Star Wars movie by far.

IMHO Return of the Jedi is the best title, it rolls off the tongue and you know it's going to be good.

 

[CJ]

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, as I've never even seen the subject raised, but The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi and ESPECIALLY The Rise of Skywalker, have always felt like the kind of cheesy, half-assed titles you'd see plastered over the covers of young adult novels. I dislike all three titles.

The Last Jedi sounded kinda epic to me, (especially since it was Hamill's return to the franchise) but boy howdy, did that film suck.

 

[DyeLorean]

Titles, directors and writers aside, the Star Wars sequel trilogy failed basically because it was aimless. They initially had all the right ingredients but they made the recipe up as they went along.
Not really unpopular but I had to write that down.

 

[Batmannerism]

Titles, directors and writers aside, the Star Wars sequel trilogy failed basically because it was aimless. They initially had all the right ingredients but they made the recipe up as they went along.
Not really unpopular but I had to write that down.

You are not wrong ! At least in the original trilogy Lucas had it all planned out, and it was awesome ( of course he had the prequels planned too, and they sucked). The sequels had the same faces although that was about it - you never get to know the characters enough to care about them and because the story is all over the place it doesn't really give them the scope to grow on us - I'm sure she's a lovely person but Daisy Ridley had almost the same expression in every scene in all three films.

 

[divan]

Titles, directors and writers aside, the Star Wars sequel trilogy failed basically because it was aimless. They initially had all the right ingredients but they made the recipe up as they went along.
Not really unpopular but I had to write that down.

I agree but I'd even go one step further: it was not only aimless as a series, but the aim of each movie was directionally oppossed to the film that came before it story-wise (and here I include TFA going against ROTJ), in both themes, characterization and plot. Its impossible to build a coherent story series like this.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

After watching all four Toy Story movies I think I was reminded why the LEGO Movie can't please me. A story about child play things is fun and well managed, while the story that reminds us what it feels like to imagine while playing with toys focuses more on the toys, then end up showing us the toy is alive and it's not just the imagination of the child, and storytelling is about as shoddy as one made by an actual naive child with no capability of forming a good story.

I still think the first LEGO Movie is average at best, and not getting an Oscar doesn't mean it was snubbed, the movie never deserved any award or recognition.

 

[terry78]

The New Guy is one of the best teen comedies ever.

 

[MilkmanDan]

And yeah, Riker is just the worst. At the beginning of the show, he just seemed like a diet version of Kirk (I remember a Mad Magazine parody of TNG back then where they called him Commander Rekirk) and then he just sort of morphed into the boring guy that was just kinda there.

At some point it became something of an in-universe character flaw, didn't it? That this guy who looked like he could be a new Kirk kept turning down chances to become a captain of his own ship. He was often shown to be more than competent enough and that he could and should have moved on to have Kirk-style adventures as a leader of his own supporting cast. But instead he always chose to remain as Picard's "number one" on the Enterprise. Riker basically became a symbol of unfulfilled potential.

 

[Wheels]

The New Guy is one of the best teen comedies ever.

Ooooh I like this one because I was upset I got dragged to see it. I was pissed because I couldn't convince the people with me to go see Spider-Man instead, which I hadn't seen yet.

Have not watched it since. I did go see Spider-Man the next weekend though.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Scott Derrickson's Sinister is better than any of James Wan's horror films.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Since we’re taking Star Wars, does it bother anyone else that so many major plot points seem to happen BETWEEN the movies? The most recent example is obviously the whole thing with the Emperor in TROS, but there are other examples, like how at the beginning of TLJ, I think the first line in the intro crawl is “The First Order reigns.” I remember thinking, “Wait, what? Didn’t the Resistance just destroy their HQ and their main weapon? Wouldn’t that set them back a little bit?” Or at the beginning of ROTS, the crawl talks all about General Grievous, and I was like, “Who the hell is General Grievous? Huh?” And we never really got any insight into how the First Order formed or what the exact relationship was between the Resistance and the New Republic. It’s really frustrating how they just seem to gloss over really important ****.

 

[Deck Rickard]

At some point it became something of an in-universe character flaw, didn't it? That this guy who looked like he could be a new Kirk kept turning down chances to become a captain of his own ship. He was often shown to be more than competent enough and that he could and should have moved on to have Kirk-style adventures as a leader of his own supporting cast. But instead he always chose to remain as Picard's "number one" on the Enterprise. Riker basically became a symbol of unfulfilled potential.

Haha yeah, I guess even Starfleet has those people who are content to just stay where they are in a comfortable job and have no ambition.

 

[Schlosser85]

Since we’re taking Star Wars, does it bother anyone else that so many major plot points seem to happen BETWEEN the movies? The most recent example is obviously the whole thing with the Emperor in TROS, but there are other examples, like how at the beginning of TLJ, I think the first line in the intro crawl is “The First Order reigns.” I remember thinking, “Wait, what? Didn’t the Resistance just destroy their HQ and their main weapon? Wouldn’t that set them back a little bit?” Or at the beginning of ROTS, the crawl talks all about General Grievous, and I was like, “Who the hell is General Grievous? Huh?” And we never really got any insight into how the First Order formed or what the exact relationship was between the Resistance and the New Republic. It’s really frustrating how they just seem to gloss over really important ****.

“Oh btw Palpatine is back....we don’t know how it happened either....”

 

[Bobber]

Since we’re taking Star Wars, does it bother anyone else that so many major plot points seem to happen BETWEEN the movies? The most recent example is obviously the whole thing with the Emperor in TROS, but there are other examples, like how at the beginning of TLJ, I think the first line in the intro crawl is “The First Order reigns.” I remember thinking, “Wait, what? Didn’t the Resistance just destroy their HQ and their main weapon? Wouldn’t that set them back a little bit?” Or at the beginning of ROTS, the crawl talks all about General Grievous, and I was like, “Who the hell is General Grievous? Huh?” And we never really got any insight into how the First Order formed or what the exact relationship was between the Resistance and the New Republic. It’s really frustrating how they just seem to gloss over really important ****.

How the First Order came to be, or how Kylo turned evil, really isn't that interesting.
That's why the OT skipped the rise of the empire and Vader's turn to evil.
And it's why the prequels suck.

 

[Herofan]

Haha yeah, I guess even Starfleet has those people who are content to just stay where they are in a comfortable job and have no ambition.

Being comfortable with being First Officer of the Flagship is being not-super-ambitious but I think also not totally lacking in ambition and also not a flaw, it's OK to not be super-career-driven (or, specifically, -advancement-driven).