The Dark Knight Rises The 80th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[Bane_Fanboy]

Must......have......tdkr......news!!!

 

[Kane52630]

I can see the marketing pick up this week.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Can someone post a link to this editorial by this "Devin/Kevin" character? I've gone back a few pages in this thread and couldn't find anything. Thanks.

http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/20/the-avengers-defeated-irony-and-cynicism/

 

[DKDetective]

http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/20/the-avengers-defeated-irony-and-cynicism/

Appreciated!

 

[Notrip]

Im ok with the marketing for now, if we get news this week, then great, if not, thats ok. I will be worried if two weeks from now we are still not getting much from this movie, thats when we get worried and freak out!

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

I can see the marketing pick up this week.

Me too.
A poster at least.

If we get a poster even half as amazing as the "Why so Serious" poster from TDK I'll be elated.

 

[Street Vendor]

I'm not so much interested in marketing as I am in hearing some early reviews. As long as the movie is as good as BB and TDK I'll be happy.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

WB better give us something before the start of the long Memorial Day weekend.

 

[Hype_the_Hero]

If WB doesn't step up their game in the next 60 minutes, I blow up a hospital.

 

[DKDetective]

Uurghh, people with opinions like Devin Faraci annoy me. They assume that the stereotypical perception of comic books and superheroes is the true and definitive image of the medium. Nolan's Batfilm do not distance themselves from their comic book origins. It's pretty clear he has never read a Batman comic from the last 30 years or any of the early Batman stories. Batman started out dark and pulpy. The campiness of Silver Age, New Look Batman almost seems an aberration in the character's history (Okay, that is a major overstatement, but you know what I mean). Comics is as a diverse a medium as any other. There are plenty of different genres, styles, and tones. I get it, Faraci likes that The Avengers embraced the campy, light-hearted aspects of superhero comics and I agree that it is great that there is some filmmakers willing to embrace that side of the spectrum. I wish The Amazing Spider-Man took more of that approach. However, people like Faraci need to recognize that Nolan's Batfilms are not some attempt to make serious films out of a comicbooky subject by someone who is assamed of the origins of the character he is adapting. Nolan's films are as faithful and legitimate an adaptation of Batman comics as Whedon's The Avengers is of its source material.

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[Stillsberry]

I'm not so much interested in marketing as I am in hearing some early reviews. As long as the movie is as good as BB and TDK I'll be happy.

Same here

 

[TheFuture]

http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/20/the-avengers-defeated-irony-and-cynicism/

Dafuq did I just read.

 

[Bads316]

You read an article that in no uncertain terms establishes that The Dark Knight came out in 2008, and The Avengers came out in 2012.

 

[kvz5]

Paul Franklin's stories about him and the VFX guys for The Avengers trying to get a shot of the eclipse is kinda funny.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'm bored with Devin Faraci and his TDK insecurities already. Can I get a poster in here please?

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Paul Franklin's stories about him and the VFX guys for The Avengers trying to get a shot of the eclipse is kinda funny.

I want that eclipse shot in IMAX simulation.

 

[Nevincer]

I'm bored with Devin Faraci and his TDK insecurities already. Can I get a poster in here please?

 

[Miranda Fox]

You read an article that in no uncertain terms establishes that The Dark Knight came out in 2008, and The Avengers came out in 2012.

I was pretty laid back about the box office stuff - TDKR is guaranteed to do well, and as long as it is a good film I didn't care whether it beat Avengers or not. But now I want it to just so I can see the look of Faraci's face.

 

[ChrisB]

WB better give us something before the start of the long Memorial Day weekend.

That'd be a great time to release poster #3!

 

[Rocketman]

Something I'd like to share, since I watched B89 last night:

- Burton's Gotham is really great - almost perfect. I'd love a Burton-esque Gotham in the Reboot. Not exactly Burton's Gotham, obviously, but something with more distinct personality, and not just "Chicago."

- The scene of Bruce's parents getting killed in B89 was far superior to Nolan's... in my opinion. The cinematography, the dream-like movement and slow motion, the absolutely haunting music, the odd camera angles where the camera is looking up at their chins... Burton's version is simply a nightmare. It's chilling. The white pearls are given good attention.

^ Nolan's version isn't effective or impacting enough. It's too quick, it's blink-and-you'll-miss-it. The pearls falling are a fraction of a second on screen. I don't get a sense of emergency or a sense of being haunted by this floaty, dream-like nightmare that Bruce lives with. TDK doesn't help either, by there being literally no mention of his parents. The Wayne Murders are just too quick, edited too fast, and it's treated as something that "isn't a big deal" to me.

I actually think B89 is better than Batman Begins, origin wise, whereas Batman Begins is the better film. I'd officially rank these films:

As Batman Films
1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman
3. Batman Begins
4. Batman Returns
5. Batman Forever
6. Batman & Robin

As Films
1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. Batman Returns
4. Batman
5. Batman Forever
6. Batman & Robin

I'll also go on record and say that Michael Keaton was a phenomenal Bruce Wayne, and an equally amazing Batman.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Quick flashes are how Nolan has always represented memories. It's been that way since Memento. Inception is also like that.

 

[The Morningstar]

Something I'd like to share, since I watched B89 last night:

- Burton's Gotham is really great - almost perfect. I'd love a Burton-esque Gotham in the Reboot. Not exactly Burton's Gotham, obviously, but something with more distinct personality, and not just "Chicago."

Yea i agree. It's like a character of it's own. Returns was a bit too small though, it seemed to centre around a couple of blocks.

- The scene of Bruce's parents getting killed in B89 was far superior to Nolan's... in my opinion. The cinematography, the dream-like movement and slow motion, the absolutely haunting music, the odd camera angles where the camera is looking up at their chins... Burton's version is simply a nightmare. It's chilling. The white pearls are given good attention.

It gave it a dream like haze. I loved the cinematography in that scene, the way Jack's face emerged from the shadows, then seeped back in.

As for Feraci's article, the first couple of paragraphs nail it. I don't think he is saying there is anything wrong with darkness and cynacism. He's saying that TDK tapped into the feelings of the audience more because that is how the world was feeling at the time.

Avengers is just brining us out of that darkness.

 

[Norek]

To me, showing Superman's origin now is as necessary as BB. Everyone knows why Bruce decides to be Batman, but the context of the era and directorial approach is different every time. Besides, last time we had Supes's origin was 34 years ago. Unlike with TASM, this time I think it's essential.

I agree with you, very well said.

About the semi-continuity stuff, I'd rather see a total reboot next rather than having someone else mess with the Nolanverse. Nolan created a universe where he puts his own constrains on himself. I'd rather see someone else fully embrace the Batman universe next, and make it his own, the way Nolan did with this trilogy. Whether it's a similar "realistic" approach, or it is completely different, I want the next person to direct a future Batman film to have his own personal input. Delving into someone else's universe, with a complete switch of tone, and breaking the rules set by someone else, or being held back because of them and not being able to fully realize your own ideas, concepts and visions, is just nonsense.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

You know, through the last couple of years I thought I had heard it all when it came to those who disliked TDK and tried to discredit the film's successes on every level, but Faraci somehow finds a way to tip-toe around.

He's entitled to his opinion, but that article was utter fanboy ****. Nothing was spot-on, in my opinion.

 

[The Morningstar]

You know, through the last couple of years I thought I had heard it all when it came to those who disliked TDK and try to discredit the film's successes on every level, but Faraci somehow finds a way to tip-toe around.

He's entitled to his opinion, but that article was utter ****.

I don't see how he's trying to discredit TDK. He's just saying that it was suited to the time when it came out. The morally grey government, the paranoia about terrorism.

Terrorism isn't such a big thing anymore, people are more worried about the economy. So Avengers is perfectly suited because it's pure escapism.

He raises a good point with how superheroes became big during the 30s and 40s where economic times were hard then too.