BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 17

[TheFirstAvenger]

What if its just glowing white eyes and we don't even see the suit?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Does anybody here truly believe that the Bat-suit will feature trunks?

 

[Blackbat]

Does anybody here truly believe that the Bat-suit will feature trunks?

I don't think there is people really believe that, there is just no way. This is the Man of Steal team, the same team that removed Superman's trunk, there is just no way they will give Batman that.

 

[Mr. E Nygma]

Does anybody here truly believe that the Bat-suit will feature trunks?

I hope it does. And I hope they're thong trunks...wait what.

 

[Rorschach2012]

im pro trunks

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think there is people really believe that, there is just no way. This is the Man of Steal team, the same team that removed Superman's trunk, there is just no way they will give Batman that.

Right, it has nothing to do with what anyone wants or don't want. All signs point to Batman not having trunks.

 

[InJustice]

Does anybody here truly believe that the Bat-suit will feature trunks?

I don't, and quite frankly...I hope they get rid of the trunks. Many people here fail to realize that it's okay to leave things in the comics. They assume that trunks would automatically look good without exploring the potential of the design, and how it relates to the movie as a whole (see: Zack Snyder on eliminating Superman's trunks bc it didn't fit the tone of the film).

If the grandpa of superheroes doesn't get trunks in MOS, then there's no chance that Batman gets one.

 

[InJustice]

No disrespect meant, but that makes absolutely no sense at all.

How does that not make sense? If anything, it'd be a weird and non-sensical image to see a trunks-less Superman juxtaposed to a trunks-ed up Batman (and it'd raise questions about inconsistencies). Not to mention, if they found that Superman can't work in trunks, then there's little reason to assume that they're not going to think the same way when dealing with Batman's imagery in relation to the tone of their DCCU. Furthermore, since they're dealing with the mindset that Batman has to be intimidating, they can easily say that the trunks deviate from that image.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't, and quite frankly...I hope they get rid of the trunks. Many people here fail to realize that it's okay to leave things in the comics. They assume that trunks would automatically look good without exploring the potential of the design, and how it relates to the movie as a whole (see: Zack Snyder on eliminating Superman's trunks bc it didn't fit the tone of the film).

If the grandpa of superheroes doesn't get trunks in MOS, then there's no chance that Batman gets one.

If Snyder was doing these films like Watchmen I could see Batman and Superman having trunks but he isn't. Maybe I lack imagination but I just don't see how trunks/the strong man uniform fits into the Man of Steel universe? I think you can be more faithful to the costume without trunks. I'm okay with dark grey and black and short ears but trunks would be odd in this particularly franchise IMHO.

 

[v.waltzer]

I have a feeling that we'll see the trunks, based off of what Smith has said. Of course, it's my own reading of his words and the suit design could go either way. But the 'you have not seen this costume on film before' and the 'as a comic book fan' comments have me thinking that we'll see something that's more often seen in the comics.

I don't think there is people really believe that, there is just no way. This is the Man of Steal team, the same team that removed Superman's trunk, there is just no way they will give Batman that.

But Snyder wanted trunks for MoS. He tried numerous iterations of the suit with the trunks, but couldn't get them to work aesthetically.

 

[InJustice]

If Snyder was doing these films like Watchmen I could see Batman and Superman having trunks but he isn't. Maybe I lack imagination but I just don't see how trunks/the strong man uniform fits into the Man of Steel universe? I think you can be more faithful to the costume without trunks. I'm okay with dark grey and black and short ears but trunks would be odd in this particularly franchise IMHO.

Agreed, since there would actually be a point to using trunks in a Watchmen kind of tone. But in a grounded tone that was presented in Man of Steel? Unlikely. I don't think it's a matter of lacking imagination, but rather, trying to fit the costume in the context of the tone of the universe as a whole. Not to mention, in today's day and age, the young generation isn't going to know about Victorian Strongmen, so that reference is immediately lost on them...which ofc is only going to serve to lengthen the "lol superheroes are stupid for wearing underwear outside of their suit" perception that the general public has.

I have a feeling that we'll see the trunks, based off of what Smith has said. Of course, it's my own reading of his words and the suit design could go either way. But the 'you have not seen this costume on film before' and the 'as a comic book fan' comments have me thinking that we'll see something that's more often seen in the comics.

But Snyder wanted trunks for MoS. He tried numerous iterations of the suit with the trunks, but couldn't get them to work aesthetically.

But that phrase could mean anything. It could mean the colour scheme of the suit (black-gray or blue-gray), it could mean the minute details like having a fabric suit or having smaller ears. It's too broad to readily assume that Smith's comment pertains to the trunks.

Just because Snyder wanted trunks, it doesn't mean that he'll get them. He did after all came to the realization that it wouldn't work. Having said that, I can't see him not doing the same with Batman. Especially, if Batman is hyped to be intimidating and fierce...the trunks could take away from that image in the same way that the trunks could've taken away from the grounded tone of Man of Steel.

 

[keith_v]

I would like to see a suit that's a bit more high tech. Not quite Iron Man robotic, but something that a billionaire may keep in his private arsenal. I know a lot of people are pulling for the classic gray and black suit, but I have a feeling we'll be in more something a bit more complex, for better or worse.

I could see Snyder slipping in a scene where Bruce is in a raw version of suit, without any armor on it or gadgets, and making it look almost identical to the classic comic out fit.

I can see the full-on armored suit being almost like Iron Man level armor. I think they're going to push the design of everything in this movie as much as they can. I don't see them going subtle with any aspect of the movie.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't, and quite frankly...I hope they get rid of the trunks. Many people here fail to realize that it's okay to leave things in the comics. They assume that trunks would automatically look good without exploring the potential of the design, and how it relates to the movie as a whole (see: Zack Snyder on eliminating Superman's trunks bc it didn't fit the tone of the film).

If the grandpa of superheroes doesn't get trunks in MOS, then there's no chance that Batman gets one.

Wrong.

Zack Snyder said that he wanted, tried, and would've used the trunks (SEE: The numerous concepts of the MOS suit, including the final design, featuring the trunks.), but the kryptonian origin they conceived for the suit didn't allow for it.

Now that said, what's to stop him from using them (or one of those concepts) this time around, since they are no longer bound by that origin/plot point?

 

[D.P.]

They are bound by it. This is a sequel. The Kryptonion origin doesn't suddenly become invalid now.

 

[InJustice]

Wrong.

Zack Snyder said that he wanted, tried, and would've used the trunks (SEE: The numerous concepts of the MOS suit, including the final design), but the kryptonian origin they conceived for the suit didn't allow for it.

Now that said, what's to stop him from using them (or one of those concepts) this time around, since they are no longer bound by that origin/plot point?

Did you even watch the behind the scenes feature, let alone read what I was arguing? I said that it doesn't matter what Snyder wanted, because at the end of the day, what matters is whether the suit makes sense in the world that they're trying to build. Listen to this:

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Snyder at 3:55 says "I probably looked at hundreds of versions with underwear[...] we couldn't make it consistent with the world we were creating."

What makes you think that Batman will get trunks if the precedent is already set that Superman and trunks cannot exist in the Snyderverse? Furthermore, for argument's sake...Snyder's team could easily say that Batman by design is supposed to be intimidating, what is intimidating about a guy in trunks? There, it was easy to justify losing the trunks.

 

[matt47]

Wrong.

Zack Snyder said that he wanted, tried, and would've used the trunks (SEE: The numerous concepts of the MOS suit, including the final design, featuring the trunks.), but the kryptonian origin they conceived for the suit didn't allow for it.

Now that said, what's to stop him from using them (or one of those concepts) this time around, since they are no longer bound by that origin/plot point?

There's another reason that has been said in multiple interviews with Zack and Henry and basically they say that back when Superman was created it was the era of Victorian strongmen and they wore trunks on the outside and that in this day n age it just wouldn't make sense because strongmen (nor do anyone else for that matter) wear trunks on the outside.

 

[lujho]

Why would that be unbelievable? I'm sure pics like that exist.

Some people seems to think there's only one photo in existence. There's probably dozens, if not HUNDREDS, as well as many minutes of footage. That's what they do when they design costumes in huge movies. Has no-one ever watched the documentaries on DVDs?

 

[Young Superman]

I'd be happy if we got something like this in SVB.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I never really liked how Frank drew that. I prefer the cape/cowl/symbol from the Inc suit and the bodysuit/gloves/boots from Earth One

 

[Young Superman]

That could work.

 

[The Shape]

And yours would be LetsteaseBatheadaboutthetrunksthingman.

I can't help myself. Every time I pop in here, I see you defending the trunks in some way.

 

[Mr. Finger]

I'd be happy if we got something like this in SVB.

If that emblem on the chest was changed to look more like Miller's TDKR black bat? I think that this pic will be very close to what we will see... And I am ok with that.

 

[Travesty]

If that emblem on the chest was changed to look more like Miller's TDKR black bat? I think that this pic will be very close to what we will see... And I am ok with that.

So the New 52 suit with a dark belt?

 

[MaceB]

Wrong.

Zack Snyder said that he wanted, tried, and would've used the trunks (SEE: The numerous concepts of the MOS suit, including the final design, featuring the trunks.), but the kryptonian origin they conceived for the suit didn't allow for it.

Now that said, what's to stop him from using them (or one of those concepts) this time around, since they are no longer bound by that origin/plot point?

What possible reason would there be to incorporate them other than fanboy loyalism? It's like you're pushing for something that would obviously be silly to one degree or another simply because that's how it's been drawn in the past. Trunks are absolutely unimportant to the character, and the possible risks definitely outweigh the possible rewards. The things people get attached to, I swear.

 

[Travesty]

It's like you're pushing for something that would obviously be silly to one degree or another simply because that's how it's been drawn in the past.

You're absolutely right! While we're at it, we should get rid of Superman's S, and Batman's Bat-emblem. I mean, both of those are silly looking. Why would anybody wear those on a modern suit?