BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 17

[Mad Love]

Tears will worsen your thirst.

 

[Pre 52 Batman]

Unless you are suggesting that Batman should be as freakishly strong as Croc, then it is moot, because he will always be out-muscled. He survives and thrives by speed, skill, quick-thinking and sometimes gadgetry.

Strong and fit though Batman is, he isn't a metahuman with "super strength".

I know. But he wouldn't be surviving those top two pictures if he was no stronger than your average gym rat.

 

[The Man of HEEL]

Yeah, I'm a regular gym go-er but I'm fairly sure if an Alligator person jumped me I'd stand no chance

 

[golfguy22]

I'm thinking his strength is more like a bigger Bruce Lee. He was said have done all these feats that a guy his size shouldn't have (probably doctored up to fit his legend). I interpret his strength to be about the same weight-to-strength ratio as Bats.

 

[Young Superman]

I know it won't happen, but I would love too see the classic blue/gray/yellow oval suit in live action.

 

[regwec]

I think that's right. Although he is often drawn as a muscle-bound lunk, Batman clearly isn't supposed to be thought of that way.

 

[Pre 52 Batman]

I think that's right. Although he is often drawn as a muscle-bound lunk, Batman clearly isn't supposed to be thought of that way.

Says who? I have seen batman both small and large depending on the time he is written, just as with all of the comics.

As long as he is shown to be much stronger than your average gym rat then I am OK. I just don't want to be able to beat batman in an arm wrestling match.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I know. But he wouldn't be surviving those top two pictures if he was no stronger than your average gym rat.

Have you ever seen Snyder's Watchmen? Most of the seemingly unenhanced heroes in that film are conversely depicted as having peak human strength. So, it stands to reason that a character who is actually well known (at least in fandom circles) for exhibiting unparalleled fighting prowess won't be watered down in the hands of said director. I imagine everything in that regard to be copacetic.

 

[MrsKent26]

Says who? I have seen batman both small and large depending on the time he is written, just as with all of the comics.

As long as he is shown to be much stronger than your average gym rat then I am OK. I just don't want to be able to beat batman in an arm wrestling match.

Since batman is a martial artist, it would make sense for him to be more sinewy and agile, than a giant muscle-bound dude like most comics drawn him.

I'm not sure why you'd be worried about being able to arm wrestle him though. How would you even gauge that? Batman just has to be bigger than you? If Affleck gives a great performance, are you really going to worry about arm wrestling him?

 

[Leevor]

No, no, I think I get what he was saying. Batman doesn't have to be appear bigger, just shown to be stronger than average. Bruce Lee wasn't a big guy and look at the things he did.

 

[MrsKent26]

^ You might be right. I got confused because he was posting pics and talking about how big he wants batman to be.

 

[B:TAS]

I know it won't happen, but I would love too see the classic blue/gray/yellow oval suit in live action.

Probaly my favorite comics suit

 

[Greenollie]

Probaly my favorite comics suit

Agreed.

 

[keith_v]

Batman being shot shouldn't leave him unharmed. Like real armour, it should be like being hit in the chest with a baseball bat or worse, AND should leave the armour (or at least the part of it that was shot) damaged and needing to be replaced. Batman getting shot should be a big deal, and I don't want to see him strolling through a firefight with bullets bouncing off him left and right.

Exactly. Batman is human. One of his best traits is the fact is that he gets hurt like a human. It's why he is one of the most relatable heroes, and what helps him to contrast with Superman.

As far as his build, I don't think they should go too much above or below Bale's size in Batman Begins. That was a pretty good representation of a fighter's build. He looked like a light heavyweight in that. You don't need enormous muscles to be a top fighter, which is what Batman is. Just look at someone like John Jones.

 

[Rorschach2012]

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I know it won't happen, but I would love too see the classic blue/gray/yellow oval suit in live action.

I love how Batman and Robin's silver age suits compliment each other. So iconic, they look so aesthetically pleasing next to each other.

 

[MrsKent26]

Is anyone else hoping batman's cape isn't quite as neat as superman's? I think it would be an interesting contrast if batman's cape was somewhat jagged and a little worn. It looks a bit more "batish" or even just "creature-ish" to me:

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'm all for a Batman with a worn looking cape. I wouldn't even mind if his cape is tattered and torn by the end of the film, that always looks good

the Batman cape visuals are going to be ridiculous.

Snyder is such a visual director. So much more so than Nolan imo.

Burton was another very visual director, and he really understood the iconography of the Batman visual more than Nolan. Nolan was better with story and characterization, and he has his own distinct visual look, but I think Snyder's take on Batman will be a return in some ways to the way Burton was handling the Batman visuals..

I think we're going to have some truly iconic Batman images in this film.

 

[MrsKent26]

The jagged cape also looks good when he's gliding with it:

 

[hafizbat]

I'm thinking his strength is more like a bigger Bruce Lee. He was said have done all these feats that a guy his size shouldn't have (probably doctored up to fit his legend). I interpret his strength to be about the same weight-to-strength ratio as Bats.

A great recent example would be Evans in TWS. Although he was definitely in great shape, he didn't look like a bodybuilder or bigger than average at all. Yet he was still shown with enhanced strength. While Bruce doesn't have the SSS to explain it, a similar physical presence would suit Batman as well.

 

[BatScot]

Why hasn't Batman worn trunks in any of his big budget live action films?

Why did Superman wear trunks in the seminal Reeve films? Why has Spiderman worn pajamas in five? If anyone thinks the general movie going audience is going to balk at a "Batman" movie because the batsuit resembles the ole trunks look in some fashion... let's just say that viewpoint is unlikely to be correct.

And I don't remember but were fans calling for Nolan to use trunks?

They weren't calling for black rubber either... until after Nolan showed up with black rubber, and then black rubber was the only possible possibility such that nothing else was even remotely possible. Oh those Nolanites. Of course, had Nolan given us a look with trunks those same Nolanites would have declared "now that's how Batman supposed look".

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Superman was made in the 1970's, Reeve's costume would not work in 2014.

Spider-Man's costume doesn't have trunks and looks great in live action so that's not even a good comparison.

If WB allowed Batman to have a 100% comic accurate costume in 2016, people would laugh at it.

 

[Travesty]

I don't agree with that at all.

 

[BatScot]

Superman was made in the 1970's, Reeve's costume would not work in 2014.

Spider-Man's costume doesn't have trunks and looks great in live action so that's not even a good comparison.

If WB allowed Batman to have a 100% comic accurate costume in 2016, people would laugh at it.

1.) I fine with the MOS suit, but I'm not daft enough to think MOS would not have made any less box office money had the suit had trunks. And the main complaint about the Singer suit, nearly thirty years after Reeve, was not that it had trunks but that it got the trunks look wrong, and even that crappy movie still made money so yeah, it would work. 2). Here we go, the old "Spiderman is not Batman" argument... the comparison is not about the trunks, it's about a silly looking spandex pajama costume working in live action and the general audience not caring that it's a silly looking spandex pajama costume because a) they don't really care, and b) they understand superheroes are supposed to wear silly looking spandex pajama costumes. 3). 100% comic accurate costume... is someone asking for that? Wasn't me, I know that. Of course, if WB were to put Batman in a 100% accurate 'Arkham Asylum' costume these people you refer to would likely say "cool, just like the video games'.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Spider-Man's costume has barely been changed because it looks great on the page and on the screen, that's a fact sir. The proof is in the pudding. Batman stopped wearing his strong man outfit in 1989.

You just keep waiting for that classic costume in live action. If it happens and it looks cool I will come in here and admit that I was wrong and that trunks on a dark brooding badass creature of the night do not look silly.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I know it won't happen, but I would love too see the classic blue/gray/yellow oval suit in live action.

Right there, that is the suit I want to see! I doubt it'll look like that, but beyond the loss of trunks and the cape sans the \S/ Snyder pretty much captured Superman's classic look, so I suppose they could come close to the classic Batman Blue/Gray/Yellow Oval suit.