BvS The Batsuit Thread - - Part 18

[Boom]

How about we see the thing in action before declaring one way or another?

Kinda hard to know how flexible the cowl is from a still image. No sense getting worked up over it now.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I'd rather fake muscle suits than the horribly ugly previous Batsuits that we have endured.

Same. As long as it looks good, I don't give a ****. It's all fake. In fact, in some ways for some things, the more "realistic" you try and make something the less "realistic" it becomes. I think the suit looks great either way.

I hate the Nolan suits.

 

[Par Avion]

On the contrary, I don't believe you fully understand what I'm trying to convey. What I'm saying is that, as an audience, we aren't really meant to go there. The filmmakers are wanting us to suspend disbelief and accept that the muscles on the costume are a manifestation of Affleck's on-screen physicality. In other words, they're not supposed to be molded muscles even though we know that's precisely what they are.

Yeah, that's the exact sentiment that Regwec expressed concerning the moulded muscle look. It's meant for the audience (ie. aesthetics) rather than the story (ie. internal logic establishing function).

I totally get where you're coming from, it's just not my cup o' tea as far as storytelling goes! (Yes, even in a fantastical superhero film)

 

[Boom]

Cavill had some musculature padding in his suit, particularly the abs.

It's nothing new, folks.

 

[Eggyman]

Never understood the armour against Superman argument. It would make zero difference. It'd be like putting a tiny cardigan on a sparrow and then hitting it with a sledgehammer.

 

[RAE072]

Begins' Batman wasn't even able to turn his head either. He had to move his shoulders to turn. The difference is that unlike Nite Owl, Batman relies on full range of motion for his fighting skills. So just because a limited range is okay for Nite Owl, it doesn't mean that it's okay for Batman.

http://youtu.be/e6j1NwmyI2c?t=46s

http://youtu.be/e6j1NwmyI2c?t=56s

Literally more than Burton/Schumacher Batmen could do.

If you want to call it limited range of motion, fine.

But he could still move his head, more so than previous Batmen, but, obviously, less so than in TDK on.

 

[The Shape]

Interesting that the chest emblem appears to be the same tone as the bodysuit itself, whereas the gloves, cape, and cowl are clearly darker.

God DAMN, this suit.

I think that the symbol is definitely darker than the rest of the suit (maybe not as dark as the gloves), but it appears to be lighter in the image because of the slight gloss of the material and the angle that we're viewing it.

 

[InJustice]

Or he understands that the eyes are needed to help convey emotion and intends on making the cowl very hi tech with an array of built in gadgets, including retractable lenses.

Yet, the eyes weren't needed in this particular shot to convey emotion. Heck, we're talking about a director that dealt with a fully masked man, and a CGI'd character with white eyes, and he was able to get emotion out of them. Thus, the emotion argument is lazy.

As for the hi-tech direction. Does the cowl seriously look like it's hi-tech?

Yeah, no it wasn't. That doesn't have any bearing on what we might be getting in this movie?

If it wasn't an Easter egg, then why haven't we seen it again? And it does if you consider that Snyder is aiming for a more comic book-ish Batman.

 

[Mach2Infinity]

I honestly think guys he will have more than one suit. He will most likely have various/specialised suits for different environments and opponents. So a reinforced armoured suit may be used against Superman for instance?

 

[Katara Rises]

nothing funny about that

 

[The Shape]

This guy is such a *****ebag.

I agree with you, but I also totally agree with that tweet. Never thought I'd agree with anything El Maybe said...

 

[darknight7.1]

Begins' Batman wasn't even able to turn his head either. He had to move his shoulders to turn. The difference is that unlike Nite Owl, Batman relies on full range of motion for his fighting skills. So just because a limited range is okay for Nite Owl, it doesn't mean that it's okay for Batman.

I always assumed Nite Owl was a nod to Batman. I also assumed his fighting style was very similar to Batman. I was impressed with him in Watchmen.

I guess I can't really decipher what the cowl is doing, because the area where we should see bulging is cover in shadow.

To me it appears it'd be difficult to move your head. At least not on the level they had with the TDK suit, with the cowl and neck pieces being separate.

 

[Pickleweasel]

https://***********/elmayimbe/status/466267230775148544

Couple weeks ago he was talking about how BvS should be nervous because Cap was able to beat Rio 2

Anyway,

I like how it looks like the suit has been stitched up a few times to make it look like its been put to good use. Lot of detail was put into this

 

[RAE072]

Yet, the eyes weren't needed in this particular shot to convey emotion. Heck, we're talking about a director that dealt with a fully masked man, and a CGI'd character with white eyes, and he was able to get emotion out of them. Thus, the emotion argument is lazy.

It's a still image. What emotions are you getting out of it that's being conveyed purposefully?

As for the hi-tech direction. Does the cowl seriously look like it's hi-tech?

Are you a troll?

The Begins/TDK cowls didn't "look" hi-tech either but they featured quite a few hi-tech features.

 

[Travesty]

I think that the symbol is definitely darker than the rest of the suit (maybe not as dark as the gloves), but it appears to be lighter in the image because of the slight gloss of the material and the angle that we're viewing it.

That's what I'm thinking, too. I think with the way the lines are on the symbol, along with the angle of the light, I think it's darker than what it appears.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I actually think the emblem will be darker than what we can see with it right now.

Hopefully, because it looks like the logo is the same color as the suit itself.

But I'm sure the logo will be black.

 

[Cooty_Cat]

Wait. Is that actually Ben in the suit or is the entire thing CGI? It looks like good CGI.

 

[Boy Scout]

They kind of look like father and son.

 

[regwec]

Or husband and wife.

 

[The Watchman]

Love it. Those Gauntlets are a thing of beauty. Minor nitpicks - wish the bat symbol was a different material than the suit and a bit darkwe though once we see it in full color we'll know more. Wish it were slightly less bulky. Otherwise? Perfection.

 

[CGHulk]

edit.

 

[Par Avion]

Yet, the eyes weren't needed in this particular shot to convey emotion. Heck, we're talking about a director that dealt with a fully masked man, and a CGI'd character with white eyes, and he was able to get emotion out of them. Thus, the emotion argument is lazy.

As for the hi-tech direction. Does the cowl seriously look like it's hi-tech?



If it wasn't an Easter egg, then why haven't we seen it again? And it does if you consider that Snyder is aiming for a more comic book-ish Batman.

Just for the record, Dr. Manhattan was just a guy who was blue, no static mask covering his face or impeding his facial expressions in any way. Also, Rorschach had a gravelly voice, but was otherwise pretty stoic. He was emotional mostly when the mask came off.

 

[shauner111]

This guy is such a *****ebag.

I happen to agree with him though

This batman mixed with Superman, Wonder Woman...it's going to create insane hype once the trailers come in full steam and everybody sees the suit in motion, etc. It's a first. While Cap 3 has a been there, done that feel already. Winter Soldier was great but what else can they do? BvS seems fresher. Captain America on his own will have a hard time going up against this.

 

[InJustice]

It's a still image. What emotions are you getting out of it that's being conveyed purposefully?

Like some people in other batsuit threads, they have picked up on how Bruce looks somber, and battle-scarred. I find myself agreeing with their perspective. It may be intentional but it's still there.

Are you a troll?

The Begins/TDK cowls didn't "look" hi-tech either but they featured quite a few hi-tech features.

Are you serious?

The Begins/TDK cowl had no technological features. It was built in the film as a helmet of sorts and did nothing that resembled being "techy". Even if you bring up the lenses, the lenses seemed more of a last minute add-on as we see Bruce building the Sonar system via government contracts.

 

[InJustice]

Just for the record, Dr. Manhattan was just a guy who was blue, no static mask covering his face or impeding his facial expressions in any way. Also, Rorschach had a gravelly voice, but was otherwise pretty stoic. He was emotional mostly when the mask came off.

Manhattan's eyes were white, which questions the people that said that white eyes will never work because it's emotionless. As for Rorschach, he's stoic, but the scene in Watchmen where he's vengeful of the guy who killed the little girl is pretty damn emotional.