BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 2

[Doctor Jones]

Or we could have a good looking batsuit instead.

Thank you. The next time I see someone mention Dead End I'll... I'll... well who am I kidding, it's probably already been mentioned again.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Take a hint from TFA,

MOS:

And of course, the Arkham Games.

Or just read the comics and reinvent the suit for the movies

 

[Doctor Jones]

Those gauntlets are ridiculously too bulky.

 

[Project862006]

god i hate tfa costume cap's costume should of been like mos seeing how last time i checked cap has chain mail on his costume

 

[Smallville13]

I can definitely see them going for a more practical utility CA:TFA look with fabric over kevlar, although alot less bulky than CA's costume there.

I don't think we're gonna get the white eye slits. I think this is just a weighed compromise so the actor can show expression (notice they got rid of them for Bane as well). The white lens eyes can't expand and tighten to show expression in live action, like they can in comics and animation.

Like this:

The only other thing I wonder is if it's possible to get the sharp pattern along the bottom of his cape with the material they use for the capes in MOS, TDK and Thor, without it looking silly.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I wouldn't mind them to have a HUD display-Dark Knight style, but more subtle. I'd love to see a shot of Batman in just the shadows with the glowing white eyes, but it'd bother me if that was the default.

 

[D.P.]

High tech contact lenses that make Batman's eyes appear opaque white would solve the problem of the actor not being able to emote with their eyes. The actor would be able to squint and widen his eyes accordingly to give that comic/animated series look.

You can make up any excuse you want as to why he wears them. They could be HUD displays feeding him info visually, night vision, etc.

Spoiler

It could look really good paired with the black eye paint and cowl.

I don't know how to manip, but I wouldn't mind if someone took a shot at it.

 

[regwec]

This would be a good one to use

^Quick manip based on your comments...

Surely, nobody could have a problem with a design like this?

The problem with fabric in live action is two-fold. One, it looks dumb in live action. Two, Batman is constantly dealing with gunfire, knives, explosives, etc. Him wearing armor makes SO MUCH more sense for a man as practical as him. He would wear armor, it's common sense.

Fabric looks "dumb" in live action? Did you even stop to consider the absurdity of that sentence? How many movies feature actors wearing fabric? All.

The "practicality" argument is really just another strike against him wearing a bulky, ill-fitting, heavy rubber wetsuit that restricts his movement. Batman is a character than can disappear into thin air in mid conversation. Any trade off between weighty armour to protect him when shot, and the agility to prevent him being shot, should come down in favour of the latter. Some light padding under a fabric outer is the way to go.

Those gauntlets are ridiculously too bulky.

Yep, I've said it many times, but the AA suit is just the comic book suit with added hideous.

 

[The Shape]

If Batman's cowl winds up being CGI for some reason, I may or may not shed a few tears.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

High tech contact lenses that make Batman's eyes appear opaque white would solve the problem of the actor not being able to emote with their eyes. The actor would be able to squint and widen his eyes accordingly to give that comic/animated series look.

You can make up any excuse you want as to why he wears them. They could be HUD displays feeding him info visually, night vision, etc.

Spoiler

It could look really good paired with the black eye paint and cowl.

I don't know how to manip, but I wouldn't mind if someone took a shot at it.

It's hard not to see Riddick, though

 

[godisawesome]

Then give him blue contacts and use a computer to make the whole eye glow a bit. And they can switch them off and on as a character progression. Before trusting Superman= eyes always glowing. After trusting Superman= Eyes stop glowing.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Then give him blue contacts and use a computer to make the whole eye glow a bit. And they can switch them off and on as a character progression. Before trusting Superman= eyes always glowing. After trusting Superman= Eyes stop glowing.

Exactly. The 'white eyes' look should be on enemies, and the clear vision should be when he is just patrolling the area/talking to an ally.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Surely, nobody could have a problem with a design like this?

I'd like the gloves and boots to reach further up, they look short and stubby in the Young Justice design.

Fabric looks "dumb" in live action? Did you even stop to consider the absurdity of that sentence? How many movies feature actors wearing fabric? All.

He might only watch porn

 

[Smallville13]

I just don't see the white eye slits happening. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but unless the costume designers actually invent something, there's no way I think it would look as good as what we'd expect. It really would look silly. You can't just give him white contact lenses cause it's not just the eyes that make that distinctive triangle shape. And let's not go anywhere near using CGI non-stop on Batman's face. No way. Draw the line somewhere guys. At the end of the day you're depriving a good actor of the main way to emote.

The only sort've realism problem it comes across is eye detection and scanners in this society. But we're still a ways off from Minority Report, so this can be waved for now.

Edit: I also don't like the black eye make-up every Batman actor has to wear though... And we always get the slightly distracting continuity problem where whenever he takes the mask off he doesn't have the paint around his eyes...

 

[Destructus86]

He needs a suit that allows him to move gracefully and quick like a ninja. Because that really is sort of his fighting style.

 

[Loki882]

Shikamaru, no fabric DOES NOT make more sense than armor when you are a normal man who can be shot, stabbed, blown up, etc. You need protection, that's armor. Even Superman's suit in MOS was more armor-looking than fabric like.

 

[Destructus86]

Shikamaru, no fabric DOES NOT make more sense than armor when you are a normal man who can be shot, stabbed, blown up, etc. You need protection, that's armor. Even Superman's suit in MOS was more armor-looking than fabric like.

Yes, he does need some armor...but not a lot. Batman should be moving and avoiding things like that, not standing there out in the open. The shadows are his weapon. I know that doesn't fit in with Nolan's tanky Batman.

 

[Loki882]

Also, fabric makes Batman look more like a demon, yeah no. It makes him look like a guy in fabric as opposed to a guy in armor. The BB suit looks much more imposing than the image from Hush.

 

[Destructus86]

Batman could barely move in the BB suit. He sure wasn't doing much kicking

 

[Loki882]

He wasn't standing out in the open in BB, did we see the same movie. He was constantly using the shadows and surprise (that's why the action scenes were confusing, they were from the thugs POV). The only time that he came out in the open was when the situation called for it.

 

[Destructus86]

Yes, but you notice they didn't show him doing much during those scenes? When he does fight well enough for us to see, he's pretty stiff.

 

[A&W]

Could somebody tell me what gauntlets are?

 

[The Shape]

Could somebody tell me what gauntlets are?

The spikes that protrude from his forearms.

 

[Shikamaru]

Shikamaru, no fabric DOES NOT make more sense than armor when you are a normal man who can be shot, stabbed, blown up, etc. You need protection, that's armor. Even Superman's suit in MOS was more armor-looking than fabric like.

How about you try reading what I wrote this time? I addressed all of this. Batman wears lightweight fabric "armor" that still protects him from all that without restricting his movements and speed. There is such thing as fabric armor btw. You can google it.

Superman's MOS suit is not armor. It is made of a fabric-like lightweight material. Superman's suit are the "clothes" that Kryptonians wear under their armor.

 

[regwec]

No they're not- gauntlets are armoured gloves that cover the forearm.

Shikamaru, no fabric DOES NOT make more sense than armor when you are a normal man who can be shot, stabbed, blown up, etc. You need protection, that's armor. Even Superman's suit in MOS was more armor-looking than fabric like.

The point was that "armour" can be fabric. I don't know why you think segmented rubber is a better representation of armour than sturdy fabric.

Also, fabric makes Batman look more like a demon, yeah no. It makes him look like a guy in fabric as opposed to a guy in armor. The BB suit looks much more imposing than the image from Hush.

So, by your own stated reasoning, armour makes Batman look like a guy in armour. Not a demon.

He wasn't standing out in the open in BB, did we see the same movie. He was constantly using the shadows and surprise (that's why the action scenes were confusing, they were from the thugs POV). The only time that he came out in the open was when the situation called for it.

So what was the point in all that ugly, heavy rubber? If he is going to "use the shadows", presumably relying on stealth, speed and agility, then he would be better off in something light and maneuverable.