BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 2

[Sup3rman81]

How about this one? Ears look good and the symbol is close to what Snyder used for the SDCC presentation.

 

[Sup3rman81]

 

[DorneyDave]

Something like that would be very cool.

 

[Lencho01]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but I'm 95% sure that Snyder will execute the Batsuit in the same fashion he did Nite-Owl's suit in Watchmen.

The Nite-Owl suit was very well done and, in many ways, felt like Snyder's attempt at doing a Batman suit (since the character was partially inspired by Batman).

The suit was very flexible, had a very armor like look and feel (but not looking like spandex nor rubber) and he was even able to incorporate "underwear" without them being to eyecatching, without feeling too much like underwear, and just without them feeling silly. Within the film itself, they were barely noticeable.

Good point about the trunks. But, if Superman isn't able to keep them, I don't see this Batman having them.

It's still weird to me how supposedly restricting these suits are, but in this film and pre-Nolan Batman films, they seemed to at least move and fight just fine. Of course this could be a choreography problem with the Nolan crew.

Another thing, whether you liked the film or not, Watchmen seems to have come out way too early to be a good commentary on the nature of superhero films. At least, that's what I think Synder and co. were going for when they had Ozy in a nipple suit.

 

[regwec]

It's promising, but I'm afraid that the "techy" grooved pattern might just end up looking like the jigsaw-like horror show we saw on the TDK(R) suit.

 

[The Dark Hero]

I like to see a suit with mabey an under armor with a more animalistic exterior like the cape from tdk trilogy flocked with tiny hairs imagine that all over the suit

 

[afan]

Re. Batman, trunks.......and Snyder.
I believe a designer for MOS's costume stated that excluding the trunks accentuated it's alien origin.....trunks made it seem "human" .......so where does that leave a decision for trunks on Batman's suit.....surely one would want to accentuate it's human origin.

 

[regwec]

I would put a healthy bet the trunks not making an appearance. Whatever Snyder's explanation, I suspect a primary reason for removing them from Superman's costume was the fact that they had been the butt of too many jokes.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I could see the trunks being used. I think a darker color scheme could give them enough confidence to think it wouldn't be distracting or anything.

And I don't know, I'm a huge fan of the black armor. But, I'd like to see a fabric suit. If it winds up looking basically like TDK suit, with a different color scheme...I guess I'd be happy. But, I'm down for a fabric suit.

If they go with a fabric suit, he ought to be the most agile Batman ever, too. I'm thinking like straight up Zorro-style flips and gymnast moves.

 

[Lencho01]

Re. Batman, trunks.......and Snyder.
I believe a designer for MOS's costume stated that excluding the trunks accentuated it's alien origin.....trunks made it seem "human" .......so where does that leave a decision for trunks on Batman's suit.....surely one would want to accentuate it's human origin.

That sounds like a BS answer, but that's just me. t:

 

[afan]

That sounds like a BS answer, but that's just me. t:

Could be......but it's clear in MOS that the suit is 100% alien in it's origin.....so doesn't that point to some credibility.

 

[Lencho01]

Could be......but it's clear in MOS that the suit is 100% alien in it's origin.....so doesn't that point to some credibility.

Trunks could've been part of the alien design. No one's asking about why the council had those huge headdresses or anything. I'd believe it more if they straight up said they think trunks are silly/lame/whatever.

 

[Zorex]

My preference for the new Batman costume would be something that's a departure from both the sculpted rubber look of the Burton/Schumacher films and Begins, as well as from the busy armored look of the TDK/TDKR costume. I'd like something less polished, less perfectly manufactured. Something with rougher, grittier textures, a suit that looks like Bruce put it together himself, element by element. I'm torn between whether wanting a suit that's a little bulky-looking, giving the sense of obvious armor and reinforcement, or something more sleek and stealthy. As I said before, though, I do hope this new suit is something that Bruce constructs himself, completely, and not something he essentially pulls off the rack and modifies, as with the Begins and TDK/TDKR suits.

 

[godisawesome]

I like the armored look, and I think there's some definite aesthetic problems with a more slimmed down and cloth-like look.

My personal preference is an extremely heavy armor look for part of the film, like the one above, but with a thicker, more DKR-Superman-fight helmet, with a sleeker, slimmer, and more Nolanized look for the rest of the film. Preferably, he'd have the same under-mail look the Kryptonians had and just snap the rest of the stuff on top. They'd explain the under-mail as fireproof and blade resistant, with the regular armor being light and bullet-resistant while the heavier armor is designed explicitly for allowing him to survive a punch or two from Superman.

I also prefer the oval symbol. It looks more aggressive and sleek. I don't need the oval, but I love that look.

 

[regwec]

You want more armour? Wow.

I don't know why so many of you think Superman is going to try to murder Batman. That would be the only explanation for Batman's need to wear armour capable of withstanding Superman's full force. I hate the idea. If the movie is that lazy and starved of ideas, I can wait until it's on TV.

 

[Nathan]

I want a smart Batman. And a smart Batman would realize that no armor would hold up against a being that can topple sky scrapers. And a smart Batman would never risk a direct confrontation in the first place. Especially when this Batman barely knows anything about Superman. This Superman snapped Zod's neck. I doubt Batman would assume that he would hold back in their fight.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Re. Batman, trunks.......and Snyder.
I believe a designer for MOS's costume stated that excluding the trunks accentuated it's alien origin.....trunks made it seem "human" .......so where does that leave a decision for trunks on Batman's suit.....surely one would want to accentuate it's human origin.

You are correct.

Snyder actually wanted to use the classic design with trunks, but it just didn't work because of the suit's alien origin. So, it was omitted.

But I definitely wouldn't put it past him to put them on the Batsuit.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I would put a healthy bet the trunks not making an appearance. Whatever Snyder's explanation, I suspect a primary reason for removing them from Superman's costume was the fact that they had been the butt of too many jokes.

At his own admittance, he wanted to use them, and there is concept art of the MOS suit with trunks.

 

[SpideyFan866]

That sounds like a BS answer, but that's just me. t:

It probably is. I think that Nolan kept rejecting Snyder's designs until the underwear were gone.

However, now that Nolan's role has been scaled back, I wouldn't be shocked if he redesigns the suit to give Supes a less alien look. Perhaps with trunks restored.

It would make sense considering Supes is likely to become a government poster boy in MOS2.

 

[Shikamaru]

Superman not having trunks but Batman having them would feel very awkward and weird to me.

 

[regwec]

If Batman wore trunks in this, and we later got a JLA movie, the only two heroes wearing briefs would be Batman and WonderWoman.

 

[The Shape]

At his own admittance, he wanted to use them, and there is concept art of the MOS suit with trunks.

Snyder claimed he tried dozens of designs with the trunks, none of which "worked"...aka "didn't look cool enough". I'm confident he'll come to the same conclusion with Batman's trunks.

No trunks is the way to go. It's been working in the Batman films so far, as well as the recent comic interpretations, so it seems the lack of trunks in this new film version of Batman will be completely valid.

 

[godisawesome]

You want more armour? Wow.

I don't know why so many of you think Superman is going to try to murder Batman. That would be the only explanation for Batman's need to wear armour capable of withstanding Superman's full force. I hate the idea. If the movie is that lazy and starved of ideas, I can wait until it's on TV.

I only want more armor if the script is dead-set on a physical confrontation between the two, as the line from DKR suggested when they announced the movie. And I really hope that if they do go head to head, one or both of them is compromised by an outside force.

And I have recently started theorizing around the idea that Batman's the one compromised (not full mind control, but maybe Brainiac/Mad Hatter/somebody has ratcheted up his paranoia enough he talks like Frank Miller's idea of Batman), so the armored look is supposed to show that he's a little crazy around Superman. And then we he gets out of the bulky suit and changes back into the sleeker regular suit, we know all is right with the world's finest.

And I keep thinking of it being more of an exo-suit designed largely to keep him from being made into jelly by an off-hand blow by Superman equipped with sound dampeners and lead helmet, just to emphasize the paranoia and to justify its existence. I even figure that if Lex is in the film, I want him and Bruce to have produced similar suits.

Again, this whole idea of a bulkier secondary armor is predicated on a confrontation. I don't need a confrontation, and I really don't want one that falls back on Kryptonite. I'd be prefectly fine with Batman wearing a trimmed up mixture of the Arkham suit and Nolan suit (please, no Captain America from the Avengers look) and just talking the talk and walking the walk throughout the movie.

But if we're going to have a fight between the two, I prefer Miller's tanked-up Batsuit over a Loeb style Kryptonite pinky ring.

PS I'm not aiming for confrontational, I'm just trying to justify my earlier post.

 

[Lencho01]

It probably is. I think that Nolan kept rejecting Snyder's designs until the underwear were gone.

However, now that Nolan's role has been scaled back, I wouldn't be shocked if he redesigns the suit to give Supes a less alien look. Perhaps with trunks restored.

It would make sense considering Supes is likely to become a government poster boy in MOS2.

I don't get the impression that Nolan was really involved in deciding how Superman looked. For whatever reason, people take issue with the trunks. But, if there was ever a character that could have a reason within the context of the story, it's the dude who happens to be an alien.

Either way, I doubt he's getting any trunks in future films. So, if the character who started it all isn't allowed to wear them, I don't expect Batman, who has a history of not having them in live-action, to wear them even if Snyder had Nite Owl in them.

I don't see Superman becoming some government stooge unless they make him more stupid or someone who believes it's the right thing ala New Frontier. But, that's doubtful given the ending of MOS.

 

[The Shape]

Having Batman "compromised" or acting out of character is a horrendous idea and a terrible way to reintroduce the Batman character to audiences. If anything, Batman will play the "antagonist" role for much of the film, in that Superman is untrusting of him and his motives aren't clear at first.

Neither one of them has to be brainwashed or "not be themselves" to get these these to fight. They both titans, and as expected, titans clash when they first meet. Simple as that.