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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]479333[/split]
* Superman tries to scan his mask * Batman: What are you looking at? Superman: I can't... Batman: Atomic number 82... Superman: Lead. Batman: Brains and muscle? I can relate.
Batman soon dies of lead poisoning proclaiming "totally worth it" as he takes his last breath.
We didn't see Superman's weaknesses in Kryptonite and lead in MoS, but that may be explored in the sequel through Batman and Lex Luthor.
I hope the armor Batman gets is somewhere between Dark Knight Returns and Kingdom Come.
I hope he doesn't get any armor at all.
Peeps keep seeing blue where there aint no blue... click on the pic, click on the imageshack pic, et viola "Ben Affleck Batman Black and Gray - Version 2"... and that Black&Gray version is great.Other than the sheen of blue I think this is exactly what we're getting.
And it's great.
I would prefer the latter, but either is fine.lujho said:Even though I love the suit, I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't expecting something this anatomical and sculpted looking, I wouldn't have done it like that or even thought to. In fact when I first saw the pic low-res I thought it WAS another suit with a sculpted rubber exterior.
But then I saw up close that it was fabric, and that those muscle fibres were the weave of the fabric and those veins were real wrinkles (and repair stitches?).
Would I be right to say that you'd prefer if the padded suit he's wearing underneath was less anatomical/more abstract? Or just more smoothed out and less defined?
This is essentially where I'm coming from. I don't want to be consciously aware of the muscle suit--I mean, Thor's sleeves have padding and airbrushing, but you don't usually notice it, you know? Similar deal with the Raimi Spider-Man costumes.I wouldn't have done it like that or even thought to.
Maybe his suit will be lined with lead and Superman won't be able to scan his identity![]()
I would prefer the latter, but either is fine.
My issue is that's big and it's obvious. Muscle suits are (usually) a fact of life in Superhero films, and I understand why (though Spidey looked his best without one in ASM2). That said, I've always found the most effective muscle suits to be the ones that you don't think about because they aren't screaming at you.
MOS had a really elaborate muscle suit, but it was designed to be disguised by the suit itself in a way that made it (usually) look subtle. Superman's silhouette wasn't riddled with fake muscle, but when the light hit it the right way it added just enough to make him seem super.
That was great.
This Batman suit, as I've said previously, is a very different approach--and though I understand why, it isn't the way I would have gone. They clearly wanted to build a suit that, in the right conditions, is going to look like the rippling sinew of a horrible batmonster. I commend them for doing such an exceptional job in that regard; the suit has a wonderful balance where it looks, at once, like both a creature and like a rugged, used piece of equipment.
It's a very novel and interesting approach--but I can't help it, I still find the muscle distracting.
This is essentially where I'm coming from. I don't want to be consciously aware of the muscle suit--I mean, Thor's sleeves have padding and airbrushing, but you don't usually notice it, you know? Similar deal with the Raimi Spider-Man costumes.
If this had been my movie, I would have built a sleeker, more elegant Batman--more Neal Adams/Norm Breyfogle/Jim Aparo than Frank Miller. That said, I can hardly fault the filmmakers for making what is, in effect, the perfect Frank Miller Batman.
I would prefer the latter, but either is fine.
My issue is that's big and it's obvious. Muscle suits are (usually) a fact of life in Superhero films, and I understand why (though Spidey looked his best without one in ASM2). That said, I've always found the most effective muscle suits to be the ones that you don't think about because they aren't screaming at you.
MOS had a really elaborate muscle suit, but it was designed to be disguised by the suit itself in a way that made it (usually) look subtle. Superman's silhouette wasn't riddled with fake muscle, but when the light hit it the right way it added just enough to make him seem super.
That was great.
This Batman suit, as I've said previously, is a very different approach--and though I understand why, it isn't the way I would have gone. They clearly wanted to build a suit that, in the right conditions, is going to look like the rippling sinew of a horrible batmonster. I commend them for doing such an exceptional job in that regard; the suit has a wonderful balance where it looks, at once, like both a creature and like a rugged, used piece of equipment.
It's a very novel and interesting approach--but I can't help it, I still find the muscle distracting.
This is essentially where I'm coming from. I don't want to be consciously aware of the muscle suit--I mean, Thor's sleeves have padding and airbrushing, but you don't usually notice it, you know? Similar deal with the Raimi Spider-Man costumes.
If this had been my movie, I would have built a sleeker, more elegant Batman--more Neal Adams/Norm Breyfogle/Jim Aparo than Frank Miller. That said, I can hardly fault the filmmakers for making what is, in effect, the perfect Frank Miller Batman.