BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - Part 29

[KillerWolf]

Well, although I generally prefer the plain back bat, I kinda also like the yellow oval when it's paired with the black/grey suit much more than the blue/grey.

That definitely. Blue/grey + yellow oval is an overkill when it comes to colors.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

So speaking of the oval...I saw this on DeviantArt and thought it looked kinda interesting. I don't think this particular color scheme would quite work in live action (maybe a more muted and darker blue), but thought I'd share it. Also, as a disclaimer, I know this is from the leaked images from before, but I've seen people posting them, so I assume they're okay to post?

Yeesh, that is hard to digest. Even of the blue was black.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

The yellow oval should probably never be that big... Keaton's oval size is ideal IMO.

 

[Travesty]

I like it a lot.

Team Blue/Grey Oval!

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Im not much of a fan of the oval in general. Bats just looks better with the solo bat. Although i do like the white oval, from finchers art work. But i wouldn't want it to replace the solo bat.

 

[DarkKnight]

Well, although I generally prefer the plain back bat, I kinda also like the yellow oval when it's paired with the black/grey suit much more than the blue/grey.

Bathead, I know you and I have had our disagreements in the past, but I agree with you 100% here.

 

[BatScot]

Exactly.

90% of people's criticisms of the TDK suit tends to come from the leg design and its appearance in still images.

In the actual film the legs were barely ever noticeable.

100% of my criticism of the TDK suit is of the entire suit and every view of it.

Either way before someone chimes in with "teh TDK suit sucks", I'm of the opinion that there are a multitude of styles of Batsuits that can work for the character and not just any one based on your specific preference.

Och, there's nay fun in it if everyone gets a medal. Some are clearly better than others. And sometimes there can be only one... because, Highlander.

 

[BatLobster]

BatScot is totally The Suit Nazi. "No suit for you!"

Oh, and team oval FTW.

 

[BatScot]

So, a question for the fabric-ites (of which I am also one): say we hadn't got a fabric (or pseudo-fabric) suit this time around, is there a rubber suit you would have been happy with?

I've personally never been dead-against a rubber suit (although fabric was my preference), just the style they've usually been done in. If a rubber suit had subtle musculature, with separations between the muscle groups for flexibility and to eliminate the buckling problem (i.e 10-20% of the bodysuit's surface would be the under-fabric showing through) and no silly stylization or "tech/roboticness" I would have been cool with it. That's what I think the Begins suit should have evolved into.

For an idea of what i mean, look at this art. I know it's not real, but it's a fairly realistic painting and looks like it would be a rubber suit. It also unfortunately doesn't give a good look at the torso.

But look at the realistic musculature on the arms and legs, and the way they seem to be separated, with fabric showing through. They look quite similar to the Begins suit's arms and legs, just with the aforementioned separation. I never minded the arms, legs or chest of the Begins suit, just the abdominal area. So I would have loved to see that suit evolve into something like this rather than the TDK suit, which was stylisically almost the opposite direction.

I would not have been happy with a rubber suit. I might have been okay with a BB rubber suit had it emulated black and gray similar to this one, but it would have been 'a one step forward' sort of thing. It was more than past time for something completely different. In some ways I think the black and gray scheme needs a fabricky look, something about the wrinkly quality that gives it a texture that makes the whole thing work. Given the painted man or the cloth suit I will always be drawn more to the latter.

 

[Bruce Malone]

The ironic things about this whole rubber suit debate especially with regards to TDK suit is that their actual intentions was to go away from that look.

I was just watching some of the special features for TDK the other day and on the feature about the suit creation one of the people actually brought up how they wanted to move away from the rubber suit (their actual words) look and feel and they did that by really having sort of a fabric weave as the base of the suit (the kevlar bi-weave) with segmented armor on top.

I know it's sort of the reverse that many here prefer as in the fabric is at the bottom with armor on-top as opposed to vice versa but I think it was actually the first step away from the previous solid rubber suits.

 

[regwec]

It's really hard to sustain that analysis when you look at how the suits actually turned out, though.

 

[BatScot]

BatScot is totally The Suit Nazi. "No suit for you!"

See that's not fair... I would never, never, presume to tell anyone what batsuit they should like. I have no hesitation however of saying that a particular suit is crap. These are two different things entirely. But if I was the one ladling out batsuits we'd have had the BvS suit ten years ago, sooooo. Yeah.

 

[BatScot]

It's really hard to sustain that analysis when you look at how the suits actually turned out, though.

+1

 

[BatScot]

The ironic things about this whole rubber suit debate especially with regards to TDK suit is that their actual intentions was to go away from that look.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[BatScot]

Like I mentioned I'm pretty open minded when it comes to Batsuits. If I find them aesthetically pleasing and relatively true to the Bat motif I'm fine with it. With regards to the "techy" Batsuits I like, I'd also include the Arkham Origins and yes the Arkham Knight suit, which is arguably the most "techy" Batsuit to date outside of the BvS mech-suit.

On the other hand I do like the more classic comic book style as well, and I do like the BvS suit. I'm just a fan of Batsuits what can I say?

I'd say the only Batman movie suits I didn't like were the Schumacher suits. It wasn't just the nipples but the verging on fetish-wear overly-detailed muscle sculpts.

We are all fans. I may like less batsuits than you but that does not make me less of a fan than you. So let's not even go there.

 

[Bathead]

Bathead, I know you and I have had our disagreements in the past, but I agree with you 100% here.

It was bound to happen sooner or later, us bein' Batfans and all ...t:

 

[BatScot]

I want as much black and gray costume action as we can get across multiple films. They can switch it up a little bit slightly but please please keep the black and gray color scheme and stay away from molded rubber or armor. It's been over 25 years give us multiple movies with this suit please. I'm hopeful that the Dawn of Justice suit will be featured again in Suicide Squad based on the set pictures of Affleck on set. For Justice League if they don't keep the exact same suit then at least keep the same Kevlar weaved material from the Dawn of Justice suit but perhaps add the yellow oval or maybe a very dark navy and gray.

Team Black/Gray!!

 

[BatScot]

Was Batman Inc written by Miller? No? Then i'm sorry guys you wont be getting it.

Also, a glowing yellow emblem on his chest kind of defeats the whole purpose of dressing up as a bat, am i wrong? I like how it looked on the page of the comic book, but on Batfleck? Nah...

Team !!

 

[BatScot]

Unfortunately, he's also the guy who said that one of his greatest achievements was getting rid of it.

I'd love to see the Oval again, but nowadays, fanboys and creators alike are so gung ho on the Black Bat and nitpicky about the
Oval.

In some cases, the Yellow Oval gets white washed from certain stories. Whereas Batman was wearing the Oval in the original "Killing Joke", Brian Bolland's recolored version got rid of it. And you know they're not republishing the original version of TKJ anytime soon, if ever.

Don't give me that fanboy BS. You can like both or you can prefer one or the other. I choose the bat. I would get rid of the oval. There's nothing nitpicky about that.

 

[Bruce Malone]

It's really hard to sustain that analysis when you look at how the suits actually turned out, though.

Yes and no. They went on to explain their inspiration for the TDK suit was modern sports protective wear, which kind of makes sense given the situations Batman would find himself in, especially in the "grounded" motif Nolan was going for.

So they kind of took inspiration from something like this:

I wouldn't describe that as an un-functional rubber suit.

If the aesthetics of the TDK suits aren't your tastes that's fine but I wouldn't lump the suit in with the past black rubber molds used in the previous films.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

So he WAS wearin' hockey padthsss?

 

[Bruce Malone]

Well he wasn't technically wrong I believe the above is BMX armor.

 

[BatScot]

So he WAS wearin' hockey padthsss?

Nice t:

 

[MrsKent26]

I like both the and the .

Whichever one looks best depends on the size/shape of the symbol and the method of integration into the suit.

 

[John-An]

I hope the follow Batman's arc in New Frontier. He wears the black and grey with the black bat when he was operating solo as a vigilante...but once he joins the league he adopts the blue and grey with the oval.

I do agree that the symbol is too large, but it was the first blue/grey version I've seen using the new art file. I may do my own version to see how it would look with more "film-level" colors and symbol.

What are you whaiting for?

I like both the and the .

Whichever one looks best depends on the size/shape of the symbol and the method of integration into the suit.

I'm almost in the same mind as you. Both I prefer the bat symbol.