BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - Part 29

[Astro13Zombie]

I can't believe how beautiful that ****ing suit is.

 

[Bathead]

Yeah, finally, a Batman that actually looks like Batman ...

 

[-Arya-]

It's truly stunning.

 

[KillerWolf]

It is still a wonderful thing to behold. As much as it was the first time.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Sadly, when you look at the miserable Suicide Squad designs, it becomes apparent that not much has changed since then--at least at WB. They couldn't even be bothered to give Captain Boomerang a bloody scarf.

I thought the days of studios being embarrassed by comic book roots were over, but here we are.

Respectfully, I disagree. Looking at Batman, Superman, and WW, WB is clearly not embarrassed about their comic roots. Pertaining to SS, I see comic influence all over the place. Some of those designs might not reflect your preferred iteration of the characters, but they're not at all far off from popular depictions, none-the-less.

Those SS designs are rancid.

I think "rancid" is a bit harsh, don't you? They may not be to your liking, but you don't think that may be a bit of an over-reaction?

Yeah, I am sure they deliberately went for the look we got. The execution is somewhat bland though.

I will admit that the group photo as a whole is a little bland. Once viewed closer-up and in greater detail, I find the majority of the designs to be very creative and anything but bland. Obviously, the military guys are straightforward and I'm not doing back flips over El Diablo's look, but everyone else is on point, IMO.

 

[regwec]

Absolutely--and as absurd as it sounds, it seemed like a real possibility back in the days when "superhero" was still a dirty word.

Sadly, when you look at the miserable Suicide Squad designs, it becomes apparent that not much has changed since then--at least at WB. They couldn't even be bothered to give Captain Boomerang a bloody scarf.

I thought the days of studios being embarrassed by comic book roots were over, but here we are.

I think the SS costumes are a mixed bag.

Croc looks great- I can't see any room for complaint, there. Katana looks good too, albeit her clothing is a bit more "civilian than I might have hoped". I actually like Deadshot's design just fine, and he looks a great deal more like the character when wearing the white mask.

Unsuprisingly, I feel much the same about Harley as I do about The Joker. It isn't really my preferred approach, and I love the classic look. All the same, the design does seem to emanate from the character quite convincingly, and it is quite striking in itself. I really like her branded baseball bat and six-shooter, which are clearly inspired by their comic and cartoon forebears.

Enchantress looks crap. They have just done too much with the design, I think, and it has ended up with a confusion of influences. I don't know if it is supposed to represent Enchantress having gone off the rails, and become more "witchy", as once seen in Justice League Dark. Either way, they need to clean it up.

The rest are just kind of bland, but inoffensive.

My real complaint is the shoddy look of the image itself, its composition, lighting etc. It looks like a promo image for a 1990s TV show. I hope and suspect that some more interesting, individual "character card" type images may be released in the future.

 

[The Shape]

I think "rancid" is a bit harsh, don't you? They may not be to your liking, but you don't think that may be a bit of an over-reaction?

Since those words came from someone who's been negative about nearly every possible aspect of Man of Steel, BvS, and the upcoming DCU, it seems like an appropriate reaction for him.

 

[jasontodd]

Yeah, finally, a Batman that actually looks like Batman ...

Yes it only took over 25 years

 

[Saint]

Respectfully, I disagree. Looking at Batman, Superman, and WW, WB is clearly not embarrassed about their comic roots.

It doesn't bother me one bit if you like the designs--certainly, there is a place for more street-level interpretations, as many comics, movies, and TV shows have shown. That approach, though, just has nothing to do with what appeals to me when somebody says "A movie about a team of supervillains." A group of guys who look like they wandered half-drunk out of a Nickleback concert just in time to be cast for a sixteen year-old X-Men movie just is not what I'm looking for.

Slipknot has a rope. Katana has a mask and an armband. Captain Boomerang, well... he has a blue shirt and a hat, I guess? So yeah, there are callbacks, and I get that not every villain has a costume that translates well, or that makes sense for this movie... but they literally did the least they could do. That's just not enough for me.

 

[The Shape]

So yeah, there are callbacks, and I get that not every villain has a costume that translates well, or that makes sense for this movie... but they literally did the least they could do. That's just not enough for me.

I'm not sure that I agree that they did the "least" they could have done with these characters.

It's also important to remember that we're seeing one cast-assembled photo (not even a still from the film itself), and I'm definitely willing to wait until we see more from the film itself -- and these characters in context -- before deciding that they botched the costuming or didn't do enough with the characters, visually speaking. The story and tone of this movie, along with the individual characterizations brought to life by the filmmakers and cast members, might show that these appearances might come off very well in the finished product.

To me, they look like the anti-Avengers. Low-level, sloppy, grimy, disheveled, bare-bones, and cheap -- pretty much what I'd expect a hastily-assembled team of miserable, incarcerated killers to look like.

 

[Black Narcissus]

It's truly stunning.

Best suit of any cbm.

 

[golfguy22]

I'm not sure that I agree that they did the "least" they could have done with these characters.

It's also important to remember that we're seeing one cast-assembled photo (not even a still from the film itself), and I'm definitely willing to wait until we see more from the film itself -- and these characters in context -- before deciding that they botched the costuming or didn't do enough with the characters, visually speaking. The story and tone of this movie, along with the individual characterizations brought to life by the filmmakers and cast members, might show that these appearances might come off very well in the finished product.

To me, they look like the anti-Avengers. Low-level, sloppy, grimy, disheveled, bare-bones, and cheap -- pretty much what I'd expect a hastily-assembled team of miserable, incarcerated killers to look like.

Really agree with that last statement. Nobody in the lineup is really a "supervillain" in a sense. They're mercs, low-level enforcers, etc. They all look like that fit their real world counterpart persona on some levels, while other parts of their suits take obvious comic elements.

 

[craigaat]

Agreed.

 

[Saint]

Really agree with that last statement. Nobody in the lineup is really a "supervillain" in a sense.

While I understand your meaning, these characters (with the obvious exceptions) are in every way supervillains. Certainly they are supervillains by any traditional definition.

If your position is that they are not supervillains in this interpretation, that would only magnify my disagreement with the approach. If I'm interested in a movie about generic thugs, I'll watch The Expendables.

 

[MrsKent26]

While I understand your meaning, these characters (with the obvious exceptions) are in every way supervillains. Certainly they are supervillains by any traditional definition.

If your position is that they are not supervillains in this interpretation, that would only magnify my disagreement with the approach. If I'm interested in a movie about generic thugs, I'll watch The Expendables.

I'm not sure I understand your complaint. Even if they are supervillains, it might not be the best of times for them and these costumes would make sense.

 

[Saint]

I'm not sure I understand your complaint. Even if they are supervillains, it might not be the best of times for them and these costumes would make sense.

My complaint is that I want a movie where supervillains I like are allowed to be the supervillains I like. If your movie doesn't allow that, I think you're making the wrong movie.

And before anyone says it, yes, I understand that one promo photo does not a film make, and doers not preclude the film from delivering what I want. If everything else is great, great! In the interim, I am responding specifically to the content ion the photo because that is what's available for comment.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Most of them look like their comic book counter-parts to me. Deadshot, Harley, Boomerang, Croc, El Diablo, and Katana all take a great deal of influence from the comics and all are immediately recognizable. They clearly took a lot of creative license with Slipknot and Enchantress, which personally I have no problem with. So, while I'm cool with people not liking these designs, I find the comments that WB is ashamed of their comic roots or that the characters don't look like their comic counter-parts to be ridiculous.

 

[BatScot]

The fundamental problem with that photo is the lack of batsuit in general and the lack of Batfleck suit in particular. But I'm sure there's a thread somewhere where neither of these deficiencies is an issue.

 

[souperman]

Best suit of any cbm.

...I don't know...Redford was wearing a pretty slick three piece in CA Winter Soldier!
...yours wasn't too bad either Sam...

 

[rockandrollsoul]

The fundamental problem with that photo is the lack of batsuit in general and the lack of Batfleck suit in particular. But I'm sure there's a thread somewhere where neither of these deficiencies is an issue.

Hahaha... true.

 

[golfguy22]

While I understand your meaning, these characters (with the obvious exceptions) are in every way supervillains. Certainly they are supervillains by any traditional definition.

If your position is that they are not supervillains in this interpretation, that would only magnify my disagreement with the approach. If I'm interested in a movie about generic thugs, I'll watch The Expendables.

Last comment on the topic as to stop derailing the thread, but none of these villains (save potentially deadshot, iffy on Quinn and the captain), are true supervillains. They work under others, often as muscle or lower-end mercs, at least in comparison to supervillains like Deathstroke. As a result, I have trouble calling them more than just regular criminals with some extra skills in their arsenal. Most don't have access to millions and millions of dollars or crazy levels of power, and their designs show it.

 

[regwec]

Each of us can define the term "supervillain" however we like, within some faintly drawn borders. What Saint clearly means by it is a costumed or otherwise distinctive antagonist, with a sufficient level of infamy, who represents a degree of threat higher than that of a common criminal. On that basis, all of the Squad clearly qualify.

I agree that it is probably the intention to show them looking somewhat "down at heel", however.

 

[dario2739]

Most of them look like their comic book counter-parts to me. Deadshot, Harley, Boomerang, Croc, El Diablo, and Katana all take a great deal of influence from the comics and all are immediately recognizable. They clearly took a lot of creative license with Slipknot and Enchantress, which personally I have no problem with. So, while I'm cool with people not liking these designs, I find the comments that WB is ashamed of their comic roots or that the characters don't look like their comic counter-parts to be ridiculous.

Yeah, I don't recall the uproar that Marvel was ashamed of the Falcon or Hawkeye – their costumes are nothing like their originals! Even Captain America has more liberties taken with his uniform than most of these!

 

[BatScot]

This is a what happens when we're not allowed to post batsuit spy pics.

 

[PerryYellow]

I just dont get what we're supposed to like about these villains. What's so cool, or funny, endearing, or even evil about them that will make us crowd to the cinemas to watch them? They look like they dressed up for a Comic Con in the 90ies. Then the filters applied to the picture make it look like it hang on the wall of a gas station toilette for a decade.

LE EPIK REALISM AND DOWN TO EARTH AND NO JOKES.