The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

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I love Henry in the role and he deserves a chance at a sequel to MoS by someone who isnt Snyder. He should negotiate that into his cameos if this is all indeed true.
 
I would embrace Henry continuing as an older Superman actor anyway, just like I embraced Batfleck. We have lots of young looking Superman incarnations as it is.

And I want a story that doesn't have Zod or Luthor for once. Give me Brainiac, Mongul, Toyman, Metallo, and Lobo etc. already.
 
I would embrace Henry continuing as an older Superman actor anyway, just like I embraced Batfleck. We have lots of young looking Superman incarnations as it is.

And I want a story that doesn't have Zod or Luthor for once. Give me Brainiac, Mongul, Toyman, Metallo, and Lobo etc. already.
It's funny, I both very much want to see the rest of Superman's villains explored but I also feel like we've never actually gotten post-Crisis Lex in a movie. It's like if we'd only ever had Caesar Romero's Joker and then jumped straight to Jared Leto's.
 
Highly doubt that given her god awful solo bombed and lost money. I just wanna know what WB’s plans are exactly. On the surface it sounds like there getting back into bed with snyder to give fans closer but if his cut is a hit then what do you do? Move forward with what they had planned 3 years ago?

It's def interesting, I think if the Snyder cut is a hit, they will just go full throttle on the DCEU, WW3, AM2, maybe 3, Flash, shazam2, maybe even MOS2 etc etc

I suspect they want the Snyder Cut to hype people up for Henry Cavill as Superman again a bit, but I think they've been planning Superman and Shazam for a while. It's like the worst kept secret in superhero movies. The question was whether Superman would be played by Henry or someone else.
I feel it's a transition, they want superman to be seen as this positive, mentor type character, which, he can totally be in S!2 and then spring board from there, but like, I feel it serve S!2 well, they set him up in the first and he can be the father figure type in the sequel.

Piqued with whom? It's the same people that were already fans. A loud vocal minority. Fans of Cavill will remain whether the Snyder cut is good or bad.

The general audience doesn't care and never have. He was okay. It was the same reaction to Routh by the GA.

Honestly, just like the Bat vs Superman extended version, those who love Snyder's take on DC will love his version of JL and those who don't will continue to hate it. I don't see much in the way of saying opinions.

Honestly, this Cavill news just baffles me if there is no MOS 2. Makes no sense. I almost wonder if this is WBs way of attempting to boost Shazam 2s BO, as the first one was slightly underwhelming at the BO.

I'm also curious if The Rock had any involvement. He's friends with Cavill and If WB is thinking of a Shazam vs Black Adam showdown, I could see how they would want Superman involved.

That's the only way I could see this. Even that is nowhere ideal.

It's trending on twitter, Cavill is a big deal - good looking, movie goers know him, witcher is very popular - to get him back as superman keeps the GA intrigued.

Testing the waters. If the cameo is well-received, he might get another solo. If it goes over like a lead-balloon like his other appearances, they'll move on for a fresh start. That's my guess.
Yeah, they have a good superman, a hot right now (albeit streaming) actor... it's just easier than rebooting.

Sorry, I just do not see it. WB knows what they are getting with Cavill. They've had three movies now for the audience to decide how they feel about him. Hardcore fans love or like him, and the general audience is indifferent to him.

At this point you would just be serving hardcores without truly giving them anything of substance. I don't see this make or breaking MOS 2.
Disagree, as a person, an actor, people like Henry - MOS gave us potential, BvS was the script, plot and direction... JL made people like superman, even the cgi lip, people still like him and you know what, people don't have high expectations of superman, they really don't, they just wanna see cool saves and a bloke with a secret identity.

A Superman film needs to be special. It needs to be unique and it needs to be great. The character has a lot to prove and, it pains me to say this, I don't think he's particularly popular among the general audience.

I believe that can change but they absolutely cannot half-ass it.

I disagree - superman has nothing to prove... he's iconic - the chosen director, however, does.
 
Am I wrong after reading the recent news that its actually bad news?
 
Am I wrong after reading the recent news that its actually bad news?
I'm not sure, depends how you interpreted recent news. Do you mean that it's just cameo appearances for now?
 
I'm not sure, depends how you interpreted recent news. Do you mean that it's just cameo appearances for now?

Well its coming off as just a cameo for ONE movie, then recast. No sequel. No anything. Almost like its a joke being played to us.
 
Well its coming off as just a cameo for ONE movie, then recast. No sequel. No anything. Almost like its a joke being played to us.
Then yes, if you were hoping for Henry to make a full comeback, a full reboot or really any variation of a Superman solo it isn't great news. If you're a big Henry fan this is a far better position for him to be in than before though.

Doesn't mean a recast is waiting in the wings though. If they had faith in a solo Superman reboot they would be jumping on that already.
 
So what is this then? I feel like I don't know what I'm reading or knowing.
 
So what is this then? I feel like I don't know what I'm reading or knowing.
Henry's probably going to play Superman as a supporting character or cameo in some other DC movie. A Shazam or Aquaman sequel seem most likely. My money would be on the former given they already tried getting Henry to appear in the first.
 
So what is this then? I feel like I don't know what I'm reading or knowing.
He's for sure playing the character again. But it'll be a cameo role in an upcoming film. The future beyond that remains up in the air, and could go either way. But if you're a fan of him in the role, this certainly doesn't hurt his chances for continuing.
 
I disagree - superman has nothing to prove... he's iconic - the chosen director, however, does.
It gives me no pleasure to say this but there hasn't been an unambiguously successful Superman film in decades and he hasn't been the superhero in a very, very long time. I'm not sure he's even in the top five most beloved DC characters currently let alone superheroes in general. Hell, of the trinity he's a distant third.

This could change very easily but we do live in a world where Iron Man and Harley Quinn are more popular characters than Superman. Considerably more.
 
It gives me no pleasure to say this but there hasn't been an unambiguously successful Superman film in decades and he hasn't been the superhero in a very, very long time. I'm not sure he's even in the top five most beloved DC characters currently let alone superheroes in general. Hell, of the trinity he's a distant third.

This could change very easily but we do live in a world where Iron Man and Harley Quinn are more popular characters than Superman. Considerably more.
None of this is true
 
Reading this thread you'd think Cavill was Ezra Miller-level bad or something. If David Sandberg is directing him in a Shazam! 2! cameo then I think it'll change a lot of people's tunes on his portrayal. Dude openly said that he didn't agree with Snyder's direction for the character, and would argue with him on BvS as to the choices his character would make.
They really, really need to re-cast the Flash though.
 
That doesn’t mean JJ is out at all, he’s pals with Henry and Zack. I hope it is JJ I’ll keep saying TIL I’m blue in the face I think he’d make a phenomenal Superman movie.

Also there’s no way he’s coming back for one sensing cameo, if he’s back in a cameo it’s the start of more for Henry. The cameo will be the thing to reintroduce him to cinematic audiences & prepare the buzz for his own eventual solo film.
 
New That doesn’t mean JJ is out at all, he’s pals with Henry and Zack
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I would of thought jj would be busy with justice league dark.

Henry will probably cameo in shazam 2 or black Adam since the rocks ex-wife/manager is also Henry's manager.

A more lighthearted version of cavill's superman would fit in with shazam I suppose.
 
I wonder if they'll give Henry a new look for the cameos? Especially if they're kind of backdoor pilots for a possible solo?

His hair might be a bit different, but will they change the suit? No, I don't think so.
 
Wasn't Cavill contractually obligated for one more appearance, or am I misremembering?
 
Wasn't Cavill contractually obligated for one more appearance, or am I misremembering?

It's possible that WB bought out the final option on his contract when it was announced they were going to part ways (if he signed a 4 film deal). It wouldn't make sense to exercise the final option on his contract to do a glorified cameo appearance.

But then Cavill could've just signed a basic three film contract, meaning that he would have to re-up for more films after Justice League.
 
That doesn’t mean JJ is out at all, he’s pals with Henry and Zack. I hope it is JJ I’ll keep saying TIL I’m blue in the face I think he’d make a phenomenal Superman movie.

Also there’s no way he’s coming back for one sensing cameo, if he’s back in a cameo it’s the start of more for Henry. The cameo will be the thing to reintroduce him to cinematic audiences & prepare the buzz for his own eventual solo film.

Wasn't all this about the fact WB wanted Cavill to do Shazam! which basically fulfilled his contract, leaving him out of the running and he wanted to negotiate a new contract using that 4th showing as leverage to which WB said bye bye!

It gives me no pleasure to say this but there hasn't been an unambiguously successful Superman film in decades and he hasn't been the superhero in a very, very long time. I'm not sure he's even in the top five most beloved DC characters currently let alone superheroes in general. Hell, of the trinity he's a distant third.

This could change very easily but we do live in a world where Iron Man and Harley Quinn are more popular characters than Superman. Considerably more.

Disagree - the brand of superman, it's still very strong. The s shield is as just as prevalent on merchandise. I do agree this generation could turn the tide, but he's just so iconic.

what get's kids hooked is the secret identity, flying and being invulnerable, luckily kids get superman, fast... then it just stays for nostalgic reasons and parents allow their kids to watch the donner movies, wear pj's etc due to their own experiencing. It's only the hot topic crowd who really are vocal about being different and liking the opposite.

His hair might be a bit different, but will they change the suit? No, I don't think so.

His hair needs to be way different.. as clark it needs to be trim, on the sides, slicked back on top.. as superman.. roughed up on top, spit curl, which Henry has, to fall down.... but yeah, i's been 8/9 years since mos was shot, so it's ok to have a slightly more relevant, or at least natural style for Clark and superman. BvS clark was great, his superman, too gelled up.
 
Cavill has one more film on his old deal. If he’s signing a new contract then it will probably just supersede that contract. What will probably happen is his new deal will likely be 3-5 films with conditions on what those appearances are. At least one of those will definitely be a solo.
 
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