The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Lily Adler]

I remember those days

Possible Batman cameo in ‘Man of Steel’? Christopher Nolan won’t deny it…

Earlier this month it was reported that Joseph Gordon-Levitt’s character from The Dark Knight Rises would be suiting up as Batman in 2015’s Justice League. The same report also implied …

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[Kane52630]

I remember someone made this Batfleck trailer right when he was cast to play Batman. Simpler times.

 

[DCDAVE]

We've seen this exact conversation happen on whether Christian Bale would be the DCEU Batman in BvS.

Yeah. He should have been to Batman over Ben. I thought so back then.

 

[Frodo]

I certainly hope the Pattinson/ Reeves Batman being retroactively apart of Gunn's DCU, doesn't happen, though I buy that Zaslav may consider it a good option.

Hopefully, Gunn can persuade him that it wouldn't be a good idea, assuming Gunn himself doesn't like the idea, and wants to do his own thing with a DCU Batman.

 

[DarkKnight88]

What the suits *want* to happen and what ultimately *will* happen are two separate things.

And with how “franchise” decisions go, these plans change every day.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't think Gunn would want someone else's Batman in his universe, and I don't think Reeves wants to let go control over his own Batman fiefdom. So I don't think this will happen.

 

[Frodo]

I don't think Gunn would want someone else's Batman in his universe, and I don't think Reeves wants to let go control over his own Batman fiefdom. So I don't think this will happen.

I always felt that Gunn would want to put his own stamp on Batman , as opposed to taking Reeves specific vision , and shoehorning into Gunn's framework.

Yes, plans can change , and I can see why Zaslav may not consider it a big deal for Battinson to be part of the Gunn DC Universe .

Still though, I hope they keep with their original stated goal of The Batman to be an Elseworld's thing , with Gunn eventually introducing his own version of Batman.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

I don't think Gunn would want someone else's Batman in his universe, and I don't think Reeves wants to let go control over his own Batman fiefdom. So I don't think this will happen.

Especially if this Bat-verse continues expanding with TV shows or projects beyond Penguin, Reeves isn't going to want to be beholden to someone else's universe through film and TV and having to make that fit into the DCU's tones, however that ends up looking.

 

[Lily Adler]

Anyone wondering if we'll get the Christ allegories?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

 

[dhandler01]

I don't think so...

 

[flickchick85]

As a Magic 8 Ball would say, "Signs point to yes."

 

[SwordOfMorning]

If there was any chance of Pattinson being the DCU Batman I suspect they would have lead with that right out the gate. I don't think there's any incentive for Reeves to change course (there's always money, but Reeves is already a rich guy - plenty of directors have turned down insane paydays) and I cannot imagine them wanting to deal with the controversy of very publicly alienating him.

Personally, I want a complete story out of Reeves and Pattinson and then never see either of them near Batman again. Done and dusted. The fact we will never, ever see Bale again is a huge factor in what will make the trilogy an eternally special affair.

 

[J.Drangal]

Anyone wondering if we'll get the Christ allegories?

Oh I'm sure it will be there... but in the form of a meta gag to make a joke about it.

 

[Chris B]

I don't expect Pattinson to crossover into the DCU but I am surprised by the lack of movement on TBATB since the announcement of Muschietti as director. Seems like Gunn would've been ordered to get a DCU Batman movie out ASAP regardless of what Reeves is doing.

 

[solidsnake86]

When it was initially announced that Reeves' batman would be separate and Gunn would introduce his own batman that was January 2023. Superhero movies hadn't taken a beating at the box office yet and everyone thought marvel could do no wrong and box office was always going to be big. That changed very quickly and now you are seeing moviegoers being very selective with their choices. Namely, the movies actually have to be good or be something new.

It would be crazy to think that a decision made in early 2023, maybe even late 2022, hasn't been revisited since then. Whether it happens or not is a different story but let's not pretend like it's a forgone conclusion that it will never happen.

There is also no rush at this time to make that decision. Superman hasn't come out yet. The penguin tv show is just releasing. If anything the earliest the brave and the bold could come out is 2027 with filming taking place in 2026.

Matt Reeves was right to want his batman separate. All he heard was a plan with not one ounce of footage shot. Once superman comes out you can see what the audience reception is and go from there.

 

[dhandler01]

If there was any chance of Pattinson being the DCU Batman I suspect they would have lead with that right out the gate. I don't think there's any incentive for Reeves to change course (there's always money, but Reeves is already a rich guy - plenty of directors have turned down insane paydays) and I cannot imagine them wanting to deal with the controversy of very publicly alienating him.

Personally, I want a complete story out of Reeves and Pattinson and then never see either of them near Batman again. Done and dusted. The fact we will never, ever see Bale again is a huge factor in what will make the trilogy an eternally special affair.

Reeves literally walked away from the project once (as a negotiating tool but still) to make sure he could make the film he wanted...if WB was pressuring him and he wanted nothing to do with it not only would he walk away but he would make sure we know why. (he and Gunn for that matter...just like they did when the rumor came up last time and they debunked it) He doesn't need to make The Batman II he has more than enough on his resume to have carte blanche wherever he goes.

And while I am usually the last one to ever give a studio credit, they seem content to let him do it. They havent rushed him to make a script, they let him develop an HBO Penguin Show to expand the universe and they have either stayed silent or praised him when the topic comes up.

Long story short...this wishful thinking is not going to happen unless Reeves wants it too. And if he does, he will be the one to tell us.

 

[dhandler01]

I don't expect Pattinson to crossover into the DCU but I am surprised by the lack of movement on TBATB since the announcement of Muschietti as director. Seems like Gunn would've been ordered to get a DCU Batman movie out ASAP regardless of what Reeves is doing.

I think you are going to see a lot of projects at a lot of studios go on the backburner for a bit. There has been a lot of money lost from all studios and chance taking is not foremost on the mind of the studios when things go sideways. Having 5 Batman Comics, 4 Spideys and Wolverine in every issue of everything is great when you are selling $3.99 books (no its not...but still) but when it comes to films oversaturation is a thing. A new Batman project that isn't The Batman related is not a good idea in the current movie climate.

 

[solidsnake86]

^wbd also has to decide where to put in the marketing dollars for the best return on investment. They will have spent money on making Pattinson the new Batman to the general audience and now people have voted with their wallets that this franchise is what they want.

Nolan effectively shut down the justice league movie for trying to run a different batman concurrently and he had less leverage at the time because batman begins wasn't a box office smash hit but the home video revenue was big. So Matt Reeves has a strong position.

I do feel bad for Gunn. It was smart of him to focus on superman, then release Supergirl. Superman, it could be argued, really hasn't had a successful reboot so there is room to do something new that the general audience loves. Followed by green lantern on the small screen because that film single handedly destroyed that the film potential.

Wonder woman, flash and Aquaman are just too recent to try again unfortunately for the near future.

 

[J.Drangal]

Beyond the wait for the reception from Superman, etc., I'm more or less convinced that Gunn is in no rush because he actually wants to do TBATB himself.
I mean, Batman is his favorite character, and the pitch he's chosen seems to give him the opportunity to do “some Gunn".

... Pure speculation of course, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Lily Adler]

As a Magic 8 Ball would say, "Signs point to yes."

David has Insta, but hasn't activated Threads.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't expect Pattinson to crossover into the DCU but I am surprised by the lack of movement on TBATB since the announcement of Muschietti as director. Seems like Gunn would've been ordered to get a DCU Batman movie out ASAP regardless of what Reeves is doing.

I truly wonder who pushed Muschetti for a Batman movie. Was it Gunn or Zaslav?

 

[SupermansPal]

I truly wonder who pushed Muschetti for a Batman movie. Was it Gunn or Zaslav?

My best guess is that it's a consolation prize for the Muschiettis after Flash was made completely redundant with Gunn & Safran's hiring, and crashed & burned.

But giving Warner Bros' crown jewel franchise as a consolation prize instead of say, Justice League Dark, is certainly something.

 

[Chris B]

I truly wonder who pushed Muschetti for a Batman movie. Was it Gunn or Zaslav?

I imagine that everyone involved thought he was the safe choice pre-The Flash, with them either believing their own hype about how great that was or at the very least not expecting the bottom to fall out like it did with it.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

The Flash and Muschietti in general seem 100% up Gunn's alley. No doubt in my mind he'd love Muschietti to make it, I just dunno if that's likely after the sheer scale of The Flash's disaster. But who knows! Maybe they fully blame that on Ezra Miller. It's always a mistake to expect studios and execs to act fully rationally.