The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Nemeres]

Including Battinson in the DCU feels a little like creative betrayal. We all get what Reeves's Batverse is about... it's a crime drama, where the most power you can have is through lots of guns, lots of manpower. That's compelling enough. The word "organic" gets overused a lot, but if they throw Battinson and Gunn's Superman together, it'll feel very much not that. We'll all know: it's a corporate move done for brand management purposes. That sense of fidelity to a vision is precious... why lose it for no reason?

Let them do what they planned. An alternate, more fantastical Batman that has Robin, Ra's, Killer Croc, Dr Phosphorus, all the stuff that doesn't fit tonally with Reeves's thing. Works fine.

 

[DKDetective]

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but it seems the country at the heart of the international crisis in the movie is from a Golden Age Siegel and Shuster story:

Boravia

In 1939, the country of Boravia was consumed by a civil war. A Boravian munitions magnate named Lubane hired an international armaments racketeer named Bartow to steal a formula from an American chemist, for an advanced type of poison gas. The gas' inventor was murdered, and Bartow took the formula to Boravia, but was pursued there by the American adventurer Superman. In Boravia, Superman intervened in a number of situations where civilians were endangered by the warring forces, then tracked down and confronted Lubane, who did not survive their encounter. Superman then flew to the capital city, and disrupted a stalemated peace conference, in which bad-faith negotiators from both factions were making no progress. He convincingly threatened to knock down the building in which they were haggling, with all the negotiators inside it; they very quickly reached a mutually acceptable agreement, and the civil war was ended.

 

[Lily Adler]

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but it seems the country at the heart of the international crisis in the movie is from a Golden Age Siegel and Shuster story:
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Boravia

Ooooo nice catch.

 

[DKDetective]

Ooooo nice catch.

I'm finally off for the holidays so I am just going through the trailer for the first time with a fine tooth comb.

Also realized that in the shot of Superman punching his way out of the glass cage, there appears to be someone standing behind projecting a very intense white light at Supes (you can see this person's reflection in the glass walls of both sides of the cage while the people outside the cell recoil and cover their eyes.

My guess is Supes was being depowered by some means in order to keep him captive (red sun or what have you) and one or his fellow heroes has come to break him out and somehow brought along some yellow sun energy in order to give him some of his strength back. Which would explain why he still needs to be on one knee and use all of his strength to break through the glass.

I tried screenshotting it, but the image was blown out. I assume Windows screen capture can't handle that I am watching this in 4K HDR.

 

[Lily Adler]

I'm finally off for the holidays so I am just going through the trailer for the first time with a fine tooth comb.

Also realized that in the shot of Superman punching his way out of the glass cage, there appears to be someone standing behind projecting a very intense white light at Supes (you can see this person's reflection in the glass walls of both sides of the cage while the people outside the cell recoil and cover their eyes.

My guess is Supes was being depowered by so means in order to keep him captive (red sun or what have you) and one or his fellow heroes has come to break him out and somehow brought along some yellow sun energy in order to give him some of his strength back. Which would explain why he still needs to be on one knee and use all of his strength to break through the glass.

I tried screenshotting it, but the image was blown out. I assume Windows screen capture can't handle that I am watching this in 4K HDR.

Early Action Comics had gangsters use a special depower gas in a glass tank to suffocate him.

 

[DKDetective]

Another very interesting point, it appears that Lex is wearing the same dark three piece suit in the shot of him in his tower office looking pissed as hell as Supes flies by and again when in the close-up in his office towards the end of trailer where he is covered in cuts and scrapes. I'm guessing these takes place at the beginning and end of the third act respectively. In the first, I'm guessing that Lex is pissed that Supes has somehow escaped captivity and is interfering in his big plan. In the second, where Lex is battered, his clothes torn, suit jacket gone, tie loosened, and his eyes watering, I'm guessing Lex is melting down due to Superman triumphing?

I'm really confused by what Lex is wearing in the shot where he is holding Old Western Revolver. Lex appears to be wearing a shawl collar dinner/tuxedo jacket, but that is paired with a wing collar and single cuff dress shirt, as well as a double-breasted cream waist coat. And the tie appears to be a standard long black necktie like one wears with a business suit. It is a weird mash-up of several different levels of formal and semi-formal attire. A tuxedo jacket, with a white tie shirt, with a morning attire vest, and a normal business necktie. Definitely not proper classy dress in accordance within any semblance of the normal rules. I hope the intention of this of an outfit is that Lex is a classless self-made billionaire who doesn't about the rules.

The background for this scene looks similar to the row of glass cages where Superman seems captured. I suspect this is Lex gloating over Supes after his capture, perhaps implying that now depowered, Supes is vulnerable to the simple old revolver he is holding.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Never thought I'd like a collar on a suit... but David's wearing it well.

Well, it seems Gunn kinda had to use a collar. David seems to have a long neck and it would look kinda odd/ or simply not proper on a regular ‘’v’ style type collar etc. Boy got the goose neck line. Great call by Gunn.

 

[Lily Adler]

Well, it seems Gunn kinda had to use a collar. David seems to have a long neck and it would look kinda odd/ or simply not proper on a regular ‘’v’ style type collar etc. Boy got the goose neck line. Great call by Gunn.

Coup de Crayon

 

[dhandler01]

I will say this. If Superman is a big at the box office. The heads of WB might overrule Gunn and Reeves. But that is a big “If”. I also don’t think Reeves is against it as some would have said years ago. Just so much stuff would have to change or rearrange. For example you couldn’t do Damien as Robin in my opinion.

I mean he literally said he didn't want to do it so...

 

[dhandler01]

As much as I've come to not really like the dude, he has hit on a few of his stories and rumors. But that is a bit of a bubble popper lol!

Gunn has a way with words. Part of me wonders if The Batman Part II is taking so long to possibly make it all work together. Like I said, a new actor makes sense... but I think Battinson is becoming a fan favorite and just want to see these two together already.

We did this with Routh/Bale years back too. It's just some of us nerds wanting to see it happen lol.

I'm totally ok with it not happening. I love The Batman. I've probably rewatched it more than any other recent CBM.

Nothing Gunn related

 

[Herolee10]

Excellent catch with those gifs! I recall this was something I was wondering about back in the summer. I had previously wondered if this was a distinguishing point between real Clark/Supes and the rumoured clone/Bizarro/Ultraman.

Thanks. I don't think this is wardrobe malfunction/inconsistency either.

Personally, I like the low-cut version of the collar. It gives the costume a more classic feel.

 

[Herolee10]

Any theories yet on what's going on in the background?

 

[flickchick85]

Any theories yet on what's going on in the background?

Solaris is all I got.

 

[Herolee10]

I forgot to mention this earlier, but I'm really looking forward to seeing the change of dynamics when it comes to this Superman's place within the wider DC universe.

Unless I'm mistaken, every live-action portrayal of Superman has always had the character make his debut in a world that didn't have public superheroes yet (or at all). So, it's interesting (for me at least) to see the character still choose to take up the mantle even though the world is already filled with its fair share of superheroes.

Assuming that the theories I've read online end up being true, I can't wait to see how they use this Superman to inspire other heroes, which is something that Snyder failed to do properly in the DCEU.

 

[DKDetective]

Any theories yet on what's going on in the background?

Solaris is all I got.

Yeah, that was my first thought as well, but going back and checking All-Star Superman the colours don't look right to me. Although the darkness of whatever is going on (when everything else we have seen suggests the big events in the movie take place in broad daylight) would be consistent with Solaris draining the Sun.

However, based on what we have seen in the trailer, the colours and shapes look like upscaled versions of Mr. Terrific's spherical energy shield and Guy's ring energy. I almost want to say that what we are seeing is their efforts to trap, contain, or otherwise subdue the third act threat and that whatever they are trying to subdue inside or outside that shield could be anything.

 

[DKDetective]

Thanks. I don't think this is wardrobe malfunction/inconsistency either.

Personally, I like the low-cut version of the collar. It gives the costume a more classic feel.

Completely agreed. The higher collar looks and feel stiffer and more formal. There is a chance though it could be an inconsistency/costume error. The wide shot of the same scene of Supes at that Stage lobby desk seems to looka lot more like the normal low collar in profile.

There is a small chance that the thickness/stiffness of the latex suit causes it to buckle around the chest in an odd way when David leans forward and crane his neck, resulting in the collar/neckline riding up.

 

[flickchick85]

I forgot to mention this earlier, but I'm really looking forward to seeing the change of dynamics when it comes to this Superman's place within the wider DC universe.

Unless I'm mistaken, every live-action portrayal of Superman has always had the character make his debut in a world that didn't have public superheroes yet (or at all). So, it's interesting (for me at least) to see the character still choose to take up the mantle even though the world is already filled with its fair share of superheroes.

Assuming that the theories I've read online end up being true, I can't wait to see how they use this Superman to inspire other heroes, which is something that Snyder failed to do properly in the DCEU.

Yes, while I don't mind the "Superman is the first superhero" setup that we usually get, I find the prospect of him standing out from the pack for other reasons in a world already full of superheroes to be very refreshing.

 

[Herolee10]

Completely agreed. The higher collar looks and feel stiffer and more formal. There is a chance though it could be an inconsistency/costume error. The wide shot of the same scene of Supes at that Stage lobby desk seems to looka lot more like the normal low collar in profile.

There is a small chance that the thickness/stiffness of the latex suit causes it to buckle around the chest in an odd way when David leans forward and crane his neck, resulting in the collar/neckline riding up.

Perhaps, but it looks like the low-cut version has a completely different shape in the front when compared to the high-cut version.

 

[Herolee10]

Yes, while I don't mind the "Superman is the first superhero" setup that we usually get, I find the prospect of him standing out from the pack for other reasons in a world already full of superheroes to be very refreshing.

Agreed. Theoretically, they could still portray this Superman as the first of a new generation/type of superheroes within the DCU.

 

[DKDetective]

Perhaps, but it looks like the low-cut version has a completely different shape in the front when compared to the high-cut version.

Oh totally, that is why I thought they were different suits with different collars back in the summer, but given that we have shots of what looks like one collar and others that looks like the other style from within the same scenes makes me wonder if it is just oddities arising from how the material of the suit flexes, moves, and contours to the body.

 

[Herolee10]

 

[flickchick85]

 

[Lily Adler]

Solaris is all I got.

That has got to be the most out there villain choice and I don't know if I like it or not. A sentient star.

 

[Lily Adler]

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but it seems the country at the heart of the international crisis in the movie is from a Golden Age Siegel and Shuster story:
View attachment 116254
Boravia

So are they going to explain why the television looks like something from the early 2010's?

 

[Lily Adler]

Oh God he is such a dork IRL.