The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[DyeLorean]

Too bad that's not everyone's preference.

There. I fixed it.

 

[DCDAVE]

I for one can wait on JL movie. I just want as many Superman films as I can get before he shares the screen with Batman.

I just like seeing the bright colors of these heroes but yeah Justice League can wait. It just made me smile seeing Superman and Terrific standing together in comic accurate costumes. With actors that look just like them in the comics.

 

[Herolee10]

There. I fixed it.

 

[STARMAN]

Can you move on from Cavill tho? Do the starts and stops over the years ever feel tiresome to you?

I moved on a long time ago. My love is for the character. I'm used to the stops and starts. We went 19 years without a Superman film and many projects that never saw the light of day. This one is happening and I want to enjoy the ride.

 

[Super Kal]

It has nothing to do with “disagreement.” No one dissing a performance they haven’t seen is giving an opinion with any credibility. Because they haven’t seen it, nor has anyone, so it’s not like they can even go off hearsay from someone who has seen it. Which itself wouldn’t be very credible either but would at least have a tiny sliver of credibility because someone’s seen it. But when a movie hasn’t even been completed or seen by a single soul? It’s a valid feeling to have obviously, but not remotely credible as an opinion, period.

You can keep saying that all you want, and yet there are still those who, before the Catwoman film came out, lambasted Halle Berry and the performance that they had not seen yet, and they had every right to do so, because their initial opinion was 100% credible, So while initially, your opinion of them being wrong and incorrect at lambasting David for a performance he has not yet performed is has credibility to it, at the same time, there are some movie productions that it doesn't take a performance to know that something is bad.

Again, you can hate them all you want, it still doesn't change the fact that these people hate Gunn and his vision. I stand behind them in their distaste... I may not be as boisterous about it as they are, but what they are saying is right. I may not sit here and hate on David for his performance that we have not seen yet, but based on past films, and past performances from other characters who have been comic book films, there is precedence for it... hate it all you want, thats fine, I really don't care if you hate it or not, they still have validation.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

@Boom

this one confused me at first.... I was going to say Jor-El {but, those don't look like Kryptonian robes} that's bath robe and PJs lol
(an it seems to be set on Earth)

so my second thought was... one of those scenarios where a General (maybe Lane) or the Major/President (someone like that) is woken up in middle of the night {to like a helicopter landing in their front yard} or being called in for an emergency and doesn't have time to change cloths and is just rushed to the scene {I'm sure I've seen that trope in some old movies or shows somewhere} an it does seem kinda right up Gunn's kinda humor...

having this gruff Leader type barking orders around being all tough guy... but, he's in his robe and slippers lol

 

[Invader Joker]

Well, I can kinda understand why they would make that comparison... the suit itself kinda does have a plastic feel, especially when you look at the shoulders and the torso... so I can understand that criticism, but me personally, I think it's a bit better than the Superman suit that we see in Superman and Lois

It does not look plastic at all lmao

 

[Babillygunn]

I moved on a long time ago. My love is for the character. I'm used to the stops and starts. We went 19 years without a Superman film and many projects that never saw the light of day. This one is happening and I want to enjoy the ride.

But if you really love the character, how are you ok with Snyder’s version?

 

[flickchick85]

You can keep saying that all you want, and yet there are still those who, before the Catwoman film came out, lambasted Halle Berry and the performance that they had not seen yet, and they had every right to do so, because their initial opinion was 100% credible, So while initially, your opinion of them being wrong and incorrect at lambasting David for a performance he has not yet performed is has credibility to it, at the same time, there are some movie productions that it doesn't take a performance to know that something is bad.

Again, you can hate them all you want, it still doesn't change the fact that these people hate Gunn and his vision. I stand behind them in their distaste... I may not be as boisterous about it as they are, but what they are saying is right. I may not sit here and hate on David for his performance that we have not seen yet, but based on past films, and past performances from other characters who have been comic book films, there is precedence for it... hate it all you want, thats fine, I really don't care if you hate it or not, they still have validation.

And I don’t know how else to tell you I don’t care. They can judge all they want. They are free to complain all they want. And I’m free to say they have no credibility, because they don’t.

 

[Captain Tired]

having this gruff Leader type barking orders around being all tough guy... but, he's in this robe and slippers lol

 

[Super Kal]

It does not look plastic at all lmao

Let me redefine what I mean: I'm betting the reason some people say it has a plastic look to it is because it does have a silicone look, because silicone in the shade has a very matte look to it, and at least in the belt It has that matte look to it, and when you look at the creases and the folds in the material when he's lightly bending over, yes, I can see why some people would say it looks like plastic

 

[Lily Adler]

Give me this, but with Captain Sawyer coming out of Kate's apartment building.

 

[agomezv3]

I moved on a long time ago. My love is for the character. I'm used to the stops and starts. We went 19 years without a Superman film and many projects that never saw the light of day. This one is happening and I want to enjoy the ride.

It was a reference to a comment you made in the first page of this thread I get the first page every once in a while

 

[Super Kal]

And I don’t know how else to tell you I don’t care. They can judge all they want. They are free to complain all they want. And I’m free to say they have no credibility, because they don’t.

If you don't care then why did you bother replying to me???
Apparently on some level you do care, so if you don't care, let's just drop the conversation, And let bygones be bygones.

 

[Herolee10]

2016

2024

 

[Babillygunn]

If you don't care then why did you bother replying to me???
Apparently on some level you do care, so if you don't care, let's just drop the conversation, And let bygones be bygones.

No. I say that we hash it out some more.

 

[STARMAN]

But if you really love the character, how are you ok with Snyder’s version?

I may not like all versions but I accept they exist. Then I move onto the next one. I'm a fan of David. I'm a fan of Superman.

 

[Eddie Dean]

If they just erased all the lines I would be much happier

 

[DKDetective]

You can keep saying that all you want, and yet there are still those who, before the Catwoman film came out, lambasted Halle Berry and the performance that they had not seen yet, and they had every right to do so, because their initial opinion was 100% credible, So while initially, your opinion of them being wrong and incorrect at lambasting David for a performance he has not yet performed is has credibility to it, at the same time, there are some movie productions that it doesn't take a performance to know that something is bad.

Again, you can hate them all you want, it still doesn't change the fact that these people hate Gunn and his vision. I stand behind them in their distaste... I may not be as boisterous about it as they are, but what they are saying is right. I may not sit here and hate on David for his performance that we have not seen yet, but based on past films, and past performances from other characters who have been comic book films, there is precedence for it... hate it all you want, thats fine, I really don't care if you hate it or not, they still have validation.

Any valid pre-release criticism of Berry's performance as Catwoman was based on the trailers. Seeing a trailer is seeing a preview of a performance. So not sure, what relevance that comparison has.

More directly, it's one thing to say you dislike David or have concerns he will be a poor Superman based on previous performances. It's another to claim his performance is bad without seeing it. The Snyder Cult are saying the latter and therefore their opinions are without credibility or validity.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

You can keep saying that all you want, and yet there are still those who, before the Catwoman film came out, lambasted Halle Berry and the performance that they had not seen yet, and they had every right to do so, because their initial opinion was 100% credible, So while initially, your opinion of them being wrong and incorrect at lambasting David for a performance he has not yet performed is has credibility to it, at the same time, there are some movie productions that it doesn't take a performance to know that something is bad.

Again, you can hate them all you want, it still doesn't change the fact that these people hate Gunn and his vision. I stand behind them in their distaste... I may not be as boisterous about it as they are, but what they are saying is right. I may not sit here and hate on David for his performance that we have not seen yet, but based on past films, and past performances from other characters who have been comic book films, there is precedence for it... hate it all you want, thats fine, I really don't care if you hate it or not, they still have validation.

What is essentially a guess doesn't retroactively become credible opinion because the guess turned out to be right...

 

[STARMAN]

It was a reference to a comment you made in the first page of this thread I get the first page every once in a while

Yeah. I just went back and looked at my comment on the very first page from September 2018. You're right. I was tired from all the stops and starts.

 

[Super Kal]

No. I say that we hash it out some more.

lol nu-uh!...
On a more calm note, it's I'm not trying to say that flickchick85 is somehow wrong...
flickcheck85 makes 100% sense in calling out these individuals and thinking that they're complete idiots in judging David on a performance level before he even shows his performance... I agree with flickchick85 on that and I hope other posters here can understand that...
I'm only trying to point out that both sides have merit, and I used the Catwoman film as the example as to why sometimes It doesn't take the performance of an actor or actress to determine how their performance is going to end up, based on the script, the director, the history of the director and screenwriter... that's the only point I was trying to make

 

[Super Kal]

What is essentially a guess doesn't retroactively become credible opinion because the guess turned out to be right...

Normally, I would agree without hesitation about this, but sometimes, there are certain directors who do not have the type of vision or experience necessary to create a certain film, end in the case of Catwoman, it was apparent from the very get go that it was going to be a complete disaster, and that her performance was going to be a complete disaster

 

[Captain Tired]

Looking forward to seeing more of Hoult and Brosnahan on set proper.

 

[DKDetective]

lol nu-uh!...
On a more calm note, it's I'm not trying to say that flickchick85 is somehow wrong...
flickcheck85 makes 100% sense in calling out these individuals and thinking that they're complete idiots in judging David on a performance level before he even shows his performance... I agree with flickchick85 on that and I hope other posters here can understand that...
I'm only trying to point out that both sides have merit, and I used the Catwoman film as the example as to why sometimes It doesn't take the performance of an actor or actress to determine how their performance is going to end up, based on the script, the director, the history of the director and screenwriter... that's the only point I was trying to make

The idea that freedom of speech means that both sides have merit or that all opinions are entitled to respect is one of the most ridiculous fallacies of the modern world. Some opinions are without merit.

Freedom of speech does not mean that everyone's opinion must be respected, quite the opposite. It means that just as people get to voice their opinions, others are totally entitled to say that said opinions are moronic and without merit.