The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[flickchick85]

That has got to be the most out there villain choice and I don't know if I like it or not. A sentient star.

It just seems like a choice the guy who used Starro would make to me.

 

[Alien Anal]

Thanks, man! Yeah, there is something weird about that suit. The fit seems different as well. A good deal looser. He also continues to have the blackening on his face/skin from the park scene in addition to the suit damage.

I previously thought this was evidence of the rumoured clone/doppelganger, but now I am wondering that if this is actually Clark, is he de-powered/weakened here or something?

Maybe Supes is literally a bit physically deflated here. Would explain controversial reveal photo of Supes seeming to put his boots on slowly while a massive crisis is going on here. Would also explain Lois's seeming trepidation when holding his hand and giving him a hug. Like there is a legitimate fear here that Superman is not his usually invincible self and in much greater personal danger than usual.

What's interesting is that Gunn has said most footage is from the beginning of the film and only a few shots of the ending.

We would suspect that Supes get his burnt costume when the kaiju fire breaths on him and then followed by probably an eventual take down, which then is then followed by society dumping on him for some reason..but we also know that Supes has the burnt costume in the scene with the big glowing ball thingy outside and that seems to line up with Supes and Lois looking sad about him going out to fight again... So I wonder
..does he get a new suit (the same but just clean) after the kaiju fight or are we gonna be stuck Smallville fried chicken Supes suit for the rest of the film.

I can't remember if he is burnt during the "Krypto, take me home" scene but that would also place it either at the start of like I said we gonna have crispy Supes for most of the film which would be a bit of a bummer...

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Any theories yet on what's going on in the background?

Solaris is all I got.

That has got to be the most out there villain choice and I don't know if I like it or not. A sentient star.

It's an "ocular laser strike."

More details can be found here if you're okay w/ minor spoilers.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Actually, scratch that. "Ocular laser strike" is probably a reference to Superman's heat vision.

 

[flickchick85]

It's an "ocular laser strike."

More details can be found here if you're okay w/ minor spoilers.

I don’t think that’s what “ocular laser strike” is referring to. That’s something shot from the creature’s (or “Hammer’s”) eyes that damaged a factory. I think that happens earlier in the film. Whatever’s going on in that night image is much bigger than that imo.

EDIT: Ok yeah or Superman’s eyes I guess lol.

Thanks for that article though, it gives a ton of insight to the main plot!! So now we know why people are mad at Supes.

 

[GreenKToo]

Just a thought here, but what if the scenes with the crowd angry at supes isn't supes at all, but the clone.
Remember the shot of supes busting out of the cage?

Maybe Lex has captured him, and the clone fills in ( by order of Lex) but he fails miserably at being Superman. Lex loses control of him and the clone starts being judge, jury, and executioner, and the world turns on him.

All the while the real superman is held prisoner, either by kryptonite or red sun rays.
And Lex, in order to save his own azz, helps take the clone out.

 

[GreenKToo]

Including Battinson in the DCU feels a little like creative betrayal. We all get what Reeves's Batverse is about... it's a crime drama, where the most power you can have is through lots of guns, lots of manpower. That's compelling enough. The word "organic" gets overused a lot, but if they throw Battinson and Gunn's Superman together, it'll feel very much not that. We'll all know: it's a corporate move done for brand management purposes. That sense of fidelity to a vision is precious... why lose it for no reason?

Let them do what they planned. An alternate, more fantastical Batman that has Robin, Ra's, Killer Croc, Dr Phosphorus, all the stuff that doesn't fit tonally with Reeves's thing. Works fine.

I agree. To me, Reeves Batman was as grounded in realism as nolan's Batman was.

I never felt that creatures or supervillains like clayface or Mr freeze could exist in this world, and certainly not heroes like Superman or GL.
They would have to do a complete 180 to pull it off, and the character would suffer for it.

 

[Alien Anal]

Just a thought here, but what if the scenes with the crowd angry at supes isn't supes at all, but the clone.
Remember the shot of supes busting out of the cage?

Maybe Lex has captured him, and the clone fills in ( by order of Lex) but he fails miserably at being Superman. Lex loses control of him and the clone starts being judge, jury, and executioner, and the world turns on him.

All the while the real superman is held prisoner, either by kryptonite or red sun rays.
And Lex, in order to save his own azz, helps take the clone out.

I wrote a similar idea in the sense of talking about the states of Supes above If you missed it.

I don't think we are getting evil clone Supes..the trailer shows a lot of consistent Superman costuming and sets.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm really curious to see how gunns gonna manage to convince us how clark wears the supersuit under his clothes.

 

[Tra-El]

I'm finally off for the holidays so I am just going through the trailer for the first time with a fine tooth comb.

Also realized that in the shot of Superman punching his way out of the glass cage, there appears to be someone standing behind projecting a very intense white light at Supes (you can see this person's reflection in the glass walls of both sides of the cage while the people outside the cell recoil and cover their eyes.

My guess is Supes was being depowered by some means in order to keep him captive (red sun or what have you) and one or his fellow heroes has come to break him out and somehow brought along some yellow sun energy in order to give him some of his strength back. Which would explain why he still needs to be on one knee and use all of his strength to break through the glass.

I tried screenshotting it, but the image was blown out. I assume Windows screen capture can't handle that I am watching this in 4K HDR.

First thing I thought of was a depowering chamber ala Superman II and somehow, Supes' allies figured out a way to reverse the energy. That would be a cool call-back to the Reeve films when he gave up his powers and reversed it on everyone else.

 

[Alien Anal]

Completely wild guess but I'm going to guess that Metamorpho is in the room and has the sad moment when he realises that Supes is the good guy and changes something to allow him to escape.

 

[donuts]

Including Battinson in the DCU feels a little like creative betrayal. We all get what Reeves's Batverse is about... it's a crime drama, where the most power you can have is through lots of guns, lots of manpower. That's compelling enough. The word "organic" gets overused a lot, but if they throw Battinson and Gunn's Superman together, it'll feel very much not that. We'll all know: it's a corporate move done for brand management purposes. That sense of fidelity to a vision is precious... why lose it for no reason?

Let them do what they planned. An alternate, more fantastical Batman that has Robin, Ra's, Killer Croc, Dr Phosphorus, all the stuff that doesn't fit tonally with Reeves's thing. Works fine.

Also, Batman lends himself beautifully to different interpretations.

Matt Reeves' is the DC Black Label out of continuity story, while the DCU Batman is the one, well, set in the DCU.

It would only be confusing if they were too much alike. But Batman is so varied, you can make a completely different version while staying true to the character in the DCU.

 

[Alien Anal]

I feel we are going to very much get a Bat Daddy, he is still wanting to fight crime but he isn't as mental and weird as we are normally use to. I think Batman is actually going to be comedic in other films and then badass in his own..but still bat daddy

 

[donuts]

I feel we are going to very much get a Bat Daddy, he is still wanting to fight crime but he isn't as mental and weird as we are normally use to. I think Batman is actually going to be comedic in other films and then badass in his own..but still bat daddy

Batman is still Batman even after he finds out he has a son.

Not referring to you, but I find it weird how some want him to be a cheesy "sitcom daddy" for the oh so wholesome dilf kink crowd.

A characterization harking back to the Bronze Age, the Grant Morrison run or , recently, Mark Waid's World's Finest comics would be a nice counterbalance to Reeves' Batman.

Maybe throw in some of the humor of the interactions he had during the JLI era.

But none of this crap, please:

This is just depressing.

People should look for their pixie manic daddy elsewhere...

 

[Sverdlovski]

Supes saves people everywhere and is unapologetic about it. Love it

 

[Sverdlovski]

I'm really curious to see how gunns gonna manage to convince us how clark wears the supersuit under his clothes.

Because that really is the thing really difficult to convince the audience in a Superman movie.

 

[Alien Anal]

Batman is still Batman even after he finds out he has a son.

Not referring to you, but I find it weird how some want him to be a cheesy "sitcom daddy" for the oh so wholesome dilf kink crowd.

A characterization harking back to the Bronze Age, the Grant Morrison run or , recently, Mark Waid's World's Finest comics would be a nice counterbalance to Reeves' Batman.

Maybe throw in some of the humor of the interactions he had during the JLI era.

But none of this crap, please:

This is just depressing.

People should look for their pixie manic daddy elsewhere...

Haha yeah I'm not about dilf Batman but I have a feeling he is going to be more chill than Batman's before. Apart from films Batman is fun and has a sense of humour and actually seems "recovered" from his issues and recruits people to do what he can't.

I just think we are probably gonna get a bat daddy more than a Patterson.

 

[DKDetective]

First thing I thought of was a depowering chamber ala Superman II and somehow, Supes' allies figured out a way to reverse the energy. That would be a cool call-back to the Reeve films when he gave up his powers and reversed it on everyone else.

The light isn't coming from the chamber itself. As mentioned, it is coming from the waist of the person standing behind Supes, who is also in the chamber, whom I have a feeling is either Guy or Terrific based on what we can see of their clothing.

I'm afraid don't get Superman II vibes at all from this. Based on the structures in the background of the shot and a very similar structure of the background in the shot of Lex in the tux with the revolver, I want to say it looks like some sort of prison filled with rows of glass cells.

 

[Alien Anal]

The light isn't coming from the chamber itself. As mentioned, it is literally coming from the waist of the person standing behind Supes, whom I have a feeling is either Guy or Terrific based on what we can see of their clothing.

What if meto and supes are put in a glass "wrestling ring" and they eventually come to an understanding and Meto uses their power to.power up Supes and off he goes

 

[trailer08]

Superman (2025) - IMAX TEASER TRAILER 1 - 4K HDR 60 FPS & 5.1 Audio​

 

[DKDetective]

Just a thought here, but what if the scenes with the crowd angry at supes isn't supes at all, but the clone.
Remember the shot of supes busting out of the cage?

Maybe Lex has captured him, and the clone fills in ( by order of Lex) but he fails miserably at being Superman. Lex loses control of him and the clone starts being judge, jury, and executioner, and the world turns on him.

All the while the real superman is held prisoner, either by kryptonite or red sun rays.
And Lex, in order to save his own azz, helps take the clone out.

This is extremely close to my theory from the summer during production based on the set photos we got. However, the scene with the public turning on Supes in the park, as well as the one of Supes looking pained at the Staff building, feature the burned suit as well as the same dirt/soot on Supes' hair and face as in the nighttime scene with Supes and Lois in the apartment/boots on reveal photo.

 

[DCDAVE]

I mean he literally said he didn't want to do it so...

No, he agreed with a James Gunn response about the Batman. Listen I think he wants the Batman to be its own thing and Gunn agrees with him. But we all know in Hollywood it’s all about the money especially with WB suits.

 

[DKDetective]

It's an "ocular laser strike."

More details can be found here if you're okay w/ minor spoilers.

Fascinating. Based on this, I am thinking Boravia is located in central Asian, possibly intended to be a post-Soviet Republic, with its neighbour, Jarhanpur, seemingly being a South Asian country based on the ethnicity and dress of its people.

 

[donuts]

Superman (2025) - IMAX TEASER TRAILER 1 - 4K HDR 60 FPS & 5.1 Audio

Good to see that this vid is titled "IMAX Teaser trailer" for a reason, for once. It's an alternate 1.90:1 version.

I love how people seem oblivious to the 1.85:1* aspect ratio existing (the 1980/90s Batman movies and Sam Raimi's first Spider-Man movie used that AR - just keeping it in the CBM realm), and think that it's synonymous with the movie having been filmed for IMAX (it was filmed using a large format RED camera).

Those are usually the same folks who'll suddenly get all "film nerdy, " throwing around terms like contrast or color grading without any knowledge of what it actually means.

*IMAX standard ratios are 1.43:1 and 1.90:1, by the way. So the movie will be slightly adapted from the 1.85:1 in the trailer to 1.90:1 in IMAX theaters. The Suicide Squad was 1.90:1 in all versions.