The Dark Knight Rises The Dark Knight Rises Trailer Thread - Part 1

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If Nolan truly is using Returns as a template, then it's not a stretch to imagine that Batman actually dies in the finale.

It'll be provocative and immensely interesting to see whether Batman dies and Bruce rises.
 
“My brother is writing a script for me and we’ll wait to see how it turns out…he’s struggling to put it together into the epic story that you want it to be…Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story…And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story.”
Seems explicit about concluding the story he wants to tell.
Also, I seem to remember a badassdigest report about WB brass being unhappy with the ending because it didn't allow for a continuation of the franchise in the Nolanverse. Though I never read of it elsewhere.
So, to me, there is enough evidence that this film ends the story Nolan wants to tell.
Isn't the franchise being rebooted after TDKR?
Again, you're not comprehending what I'm saying.

I'm sure Nolan does end the story he wants to tell. What I'm saying is, there's an infinite number of ways he can do that.

And no matter what happens, they're rebooting Batman after this regardless. I just hope they're smart, and don't try to redo the origin again. That seems wholly pointless to me.
 
Oh yes, I'm the one that can't handle criticism. :o

I stated my opinion on a collection of opinions on another board. I have every right to do so, and now you're devaluing this arc.

Alfred's sentimental 'confession' and failed promise, Selina's warning to Bruce of an inevitable fate, Bane's powerful prescence, etc are monumental clips.

Take it for what it's worth, or don't, and b***h.

Quoted for truth.
 
バット人;22105975 said:
Hahaha, I can't believe people are arguing which trailer is better (between TDK and TDKR) and make all these comparisons to support their opinion. This is certainly a sign of things to come. I'd never thought I'd see the day where TDK would come under fire but I guarantee when TDKR approaches and is finally released we'll start seeing all kinds of arguments about how much better TDKR is compared to TDK. Fans are going to **** all over TDK. I can see debating a Nolan film against a Burton film ('89 vs. TDK) but a Nolan film vs. a Nolan film? LOL. It's going to be crazy, hahahaha. We ain't seen nothing yet in terms of negativity, just you wait. Joker vs. Bane, theme vs. theme, Box office vs. box office, The Dark Knight vs. The Dark Knight Rises.


It already happened with BB when TDK came out. And it was a damn shame to see considering BB is a better BATMAN movie.
 
If Nolan truly is using Returns as a template, then it's not a stretch to imagine that Batman actually dies in the finale.

It'll be provocative and immensely interesting to see whether Batman dies and Bruce rises.

I've said all along that I believe, in this finality, we should consider death of identity over literal death.
While physical death is possible enough, I enjoy the psychological interpretations embedded throughout the series and it is very interesting to consider what you suggest here.

you can have a story come to a resolute end without having the main character die or retire.

Nolan's story isn't just about Batman, it's about the various sociological and psychological themes that he's introduced over the past two films.

When I hear him talk about a definitive ending, I immediately think conclusion to those themes and philosophies rather than a straight up "Batman is going to die".

That said, I don't know what Nolan's going to do. He could very well do either or both. But I do think everyone's putting too much weight on Nolan's words. They really don't reveal anything outside of Nolan ending his directorial involvement with Batman.

...I also agree with this, however. There are a few solid ways to bring the finality Nolan wants, and meaning to consider in what really constitutes that form of finality when there are many key inclusions at play in these films.
 
What I'm looking forward to the most when the HD trailer comes online is the shot of Bruce's face when Bane's talking to him.

We'll also get to see if he has the batsuit on during that scene(Yay maskless Batman), it's too dark from the neck down in the bootleg.......
 
I'm so excited for the HD trailer, its not even healthy. Im seriously looking forward to noticing all the amazing details within each scene. Its gonna be a blast breaking this thing down.
 
What I'm looking forward to the most when the HD trailer comes online is the shot of Bruce's face when Bane's talking to him.

We'll also get to see if he has the batsuit on during that scene(Yay maskless Batman), it's too dark from the neck down in the bootleg.......

Agreed, that could answer a few questions.
 
What I'm looking forward to the most when the HD trailer comes online is the shot of Bruce's face when Bane's talking to him.

We'll also get to see if he has the batsuit on during that scene(Yay maskless Batman), it's too dark from the neck down in the bootleg.......

I'm going to take a gamble and say he's definitely in the batsuit. We've already seen Bane hold the broken cowl in his hand, logically we can assume bane will at some point be looking at a maskless, beaten Batman.
 
It already happened with BB when TDK came out. And it was a damn shame to see considering BB is a better BATMAN movie.
Not to outright insult you, but I always think its dumb as hell when people start differentiating between a movie and a "Batman" movie.

From my perspective, once you've read a certain (large) amount if comics, you start to realize that Batman as a character can (and has) fit into almost any thematic setting.

To me, The Dark Knight is as much Batman, as BB is, and BB is as Batman as Adam West. They're all legitimately faithful to Batman in one way or another.
 
Not to outright insult you, but I always think its dumb as hell when people start differentiating between a movie and a "Batman" movie.

From my perspective, once you've read a certain (large) amount if comics, you start to realize that Batman as a character can (and has) fit into almost any thematic setting.

To me, The Dark Knight is as much Batman, as BB is, and BB is as Batman as Adam West. They're all legitimately faithful to Batman in one way or another.

:up: Completely agree.
 
Not to outright insult you, but I always think its dumb as hell when people start differentiating between a movie and a "Batman" movie.

From my perspective, once you've read a certain (large) amount if comics, you start to realize that Batman as a character can (and has) fit into almost any thematic setting.

To me, The Dark Knight is as much Batman, as BB is, and BB is as Batman as Adam West. They're all legitimately faithful to Batman in one way or another.

I don't take that as an insult. You disagree. That's fine. I want a Batman movie that focuses strongly on Bruce/Batman. Begins did for me, but I didn't feel TDK did.
 
To me, The Dark Knight is as much Batman, as BB is, and BB is as Batman as Adam West. They're all legitimately faithful to Batman in one way or another.
Absolutely, extraordinarily true.
 
hey does anyone know if the cinemark xd theaters will get the trailer tomorrow before mission impossible? it's not technically a digital imax screen...
 
What I'm looking forward to the most when the HD trailer comes online is the shot of Bruce's face when Bane's talking to him.

We'll also get to see if he has the batsuit on during that scene(Yay maskless Batman), it's too dark from the neck down in the bootleg.......

We dont know 100% if it's bruce. It may be Gordon or Lucius for all we know.
 
One thing I've noticed. When Bane says his "permission to die" line he has the same jacket on as in the first shot of him in the teaser. In the sewer scene when he (supposedly) beats Batman he is sleeveless.
 
One thing I've noticed. When Bane says his "permission to die" line he has the same jacket on as in the first shot of him in the teaser. In the sewer scene when he (supposedly) beats Batman he is sleeveless.

It looks like there are bars behind him in the "permission to die" scene too. I doubt there would be bars in any sewer or cave.
 
Oh yes, I'm the one that can't handle criticism. :o

I stated my opinion on a collection of opinions on another board. I have every right to do so, and now you're devaluing this arc.

Alfred's sentimental 'confession' and failed promise, Selina's warning to Bruce of an inevitable fate, Bane's powerful prescence, etc are monumental clips.

Take it for what it's worth, or don't, and b***h.

It's presumptuous to say that Bane is indeed a "powerful" presence. All I've seen is a guy who walks around with his collar popped who presses buttons for big explosions.

I don't see anything that is substantially monumental at this point. From a marketing perspective, it's a random collection of scenes topped off with a CGI football explosion at the end. The TDK trailer thematically gave you a sense of the film's tone and atmosphere, and that it was going to be Joker v. Batman v. Harvey Dent.

TDKR trailer is just standard fare that puts little emphasis on Batman's journey itself, and is more concerned with promoting Hardy as the next big movie star. It's no fault of Nolan's with the trailer editing, but the scope does not seem as dire or epic as TDK's was.
 
バット人;22105975 said:
Hahaha, I can't believe people are arguing which trailer is better (between TDK and TDKR) and make all these comparisons to support their opinion. This is certainly a sign of things to come. I'd never thought I'd see the day where TDK would come under fire but I guarantee when TDKR approaches and is finally released we'll start seeing all kinds of arguments about how much better TDKR is compared to TDK. Fans are going to **** all over TDK. I can see debating a Nolan film against a Burton film ('89 vs. TDK) but a Nolan film vs. a Nolan film? LOL. It's going to be crazy, hahahaha. We ain't seen nothing yet in terms of negativity, just you wait. Joker vs. Bane, theme vs. theme, Box office vs. box office, The Dark Knight vs. The Dark Knight Rises.

Sad thing is that those people are going to lose sight that we have most likely received the best comic book trilogy to date.
 
Sad thing is that those people are going to lose sight that we have most likely received the best comic book trilogy to date.

Exactly.

I like viewing BB and TDK as 2 parts of a whole. I'm going to do no different with TDKR this is the denouement of the series.

It's one very long and and incredibly provocative play for me. With an intermission that last for a couple of years. :hehe:

Making these movies battle it out doesn't bring anything positive to the table.
 
Exactly.

I like viewing BB and TDK as 2 parts of a whole. I'm going to do no different with TDKR.

It's one very long and and incredibly provocative play for me. With an intermission that last for a couple of years. :hehe:

Making these movies battle it out doesn't bring anything positive to the table.

All I know is that I can't wait for the day to where I can watch all three movies back to back.

I love how this film is supposed to come "full circle". It makes it a complete story like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, it's not like a lot of sequels where the next movie is just the new villain and their not bringing anything from the past few films into it.
 
It's presumptuous to say that Bane is indeed a "powerful" presence. All I've seen is a guy who walks around with his collar popped who presses buttons for big explosions.

You're oversimplifying it. I've gotten the impression that Bane is going to be a largely intimidating figure because of his intellect and his penchant for destruction.

The whole point of this movie is that Bane essentially razes Gotham (and Batman) to the ground and they have to find a way to overcome. How is it presumptuous to say that Bane is a powerful presence?
 
All I know is that I can't wait for the day to where I can watch all three movies back to back.

I love how this film is supposed to come "full circle". It makes it a complete story like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, it's not like a lot of sequels where the next movie is just the new villain and their not bringing anything from the past few films into it.

That will be a glorious day, I'm hoping that they'll do a triple showing of BB, TDK, and TDKR in IMAX .
 
That will be a glorious day, I'm hoping that they'll do a triple showing of BB, TDK, and TDKR in IMAX .

Same here. I'm lucky as hell, my gf is also a huge Batman nerd(she went with me to the city just for the 7 minutes of footage for christ sake)and I had asked her awhile back if she would go if they were to show all the movies in one night.

Seeing all three back to back would be cool, but seeing all three back to back on an Imax screen would be glorious.
 
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