The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 7

[Legendver2]

pretty much and he said he'll do the same to other earth's plural. he'll just start with earth one from earth 2.

Hehe good luck with Supergirl and Superman's Earth

 

[zenith16]

Hehe good luck with Supergirl and Superman's Earth

He won't make that far any ways .

 

[zenith16]

"The Flash's" Violett Beane Is Ready to Hit the Fast Lane as Jesse Quick

"The Flash's" roster of speedsters keeps growing, and while Earth-2 refugee Jesse Chambers has yet to display her of fleet-footedness onscreen, fans of the character's comic book incarnation know it's just a matter of time before Jesse Quick is racing through the streets of Central City.
In the comics, Jesse's father is yet another speedster, Johnny Quick, a hero who's footsteps she races in after learning his secret equation that allows them both to tap into the Speed Force. And while actress Violett Beane's Jesse is the daughter of Earth-2's Harrison Wells, considering her father is the inventor of Velocity-9, a drug granting its user super speed, it's no wonder fans are asking when Beane will don a superhero suit rather than if she will.
RELATED: "The Flash's" Version of Jay Garrick is 'No Reinvention,' Says EP Greg Berlanti
Ahead of tonight's episode, Beane spoke with CBR about the reasons for Jesse's return to Central City, whether she knows of the identity of Jesse's mother, and why she's excited at the prospect of getting her own supersuit in the near future..
CBR News: Jesse started out as Zoom's prisoner. How has that traumatic event affected her?
Violett Beane: She was able to get some consolation from everyone on the team. Everyone has dealt with some situation with Zoom. It definitely struck something in her. When we saw her run away two episodes ago, she ran away because of what she found out about her father. She also needed a breather. Ever since she got to Earth-1, it's just been go, go, go. She needed time to understand what had happened to her. Hopefully when she comes back, she's a bit stronger and aware of who she is now.


Beane's Jesse Chambers returns to "the Flash" to join in the hunt fo Zoom -- and her father

How would you describe Jesse's relationship with her father, Harrison Wells?
She absolutely, 100 percent loves him. It's like any parent/child relationship; there are times when you fight, and there are times when you love each other. That is playing out as well. Right now, she is a little confused as to who he is. In this next episode, Jesse is going to do everything she can to help the team, and find her dad.
Jesse has been AWOL for weeks. What brings her back to Central City in "Back to Normal?"
Barry comes to Jesse asking for her help. One of the villains has taken Harry, and if anything is going to bring her back from this moment in life, it's going to be saving her dad. It's very poetic that she has to search for him now, just like he searched for her over a lot of this season. That's going to be really beautiful, and hopefully they'll reunite.
How does Jesse fit in with Team Flash and their crusade to take down Zoom?
She is extremely smart, so she's going to be able to help in that aspect. You saw Zoom, at the end of last episode, grab Caitlin. She might be able to fill in [Caitlin's] spot a little bit. If Caitlin is gone for however long, they are going to need that extra hand on the team and in S.T.A.R. Labs. Jesse is going to fit in pretty well.
Who Jesse's mother is remains a mystery. What kind of discussions have you had about the subject?
On Earth-1, Harrison is married, but then she gets killed when Reverse Flash takes his identity. It could definitely be her. They are keeping it very open-ended. Hopefully we find out at some point, because that would be a really interesting storyline.
How cool would it be if her mother was Liberty Bell like in the comic books?
Oh, yeah. That would be amazing!
What else can you share about what's in store for Jesse in the upcoming episodes?
She's going to get used to her life there and figuring out her place and helping the team ultimately destroy this insanely scary villain. He's haunted multiple Earths, and it's her issue now, too. It's not a problem she can scoot away. You are going to see her helping everyone and hopefully take Zoom down.
The obvious question is whether Jesse will become the speedster Jesse Quick. How excited are you about the prospect?
I am very excited. I think it may happen, because there have been so many hints about it. If, and when that does happen, I cannot wait. I've talked to everyone about their own suits, and they love them. They put them on and they were like, "I feel like a superhero. I feel so cool." I can't wait to see if that happens to me, where I put it on and feel that way, too.
Is there a version of Jesse Quick's costume that you fancy?
If they do it, the suit won't be quite like the ones in the comics. I like the Liberty Bell on it. That's a sweet sentiment. I like more of the maroon color that the Flash in our show wears. What they make is so great. We'll see!

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[Meulenhof_K]

Hehe good luck with Supergirl and Superman's Earth

I'd like too see such a fight t: Zoom would win tho

 

[Legendver2]

I'd like too see such a fight t: Zoom would win tho

In a world with Supergirl, Superman, Martian Manhunter, and escaped Kryptonians, I don't know about that....

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Really don't want Jesse with her speed yet. More speedsters diminishes Barry's uniqueness.

 

[zenith16]

Really don't wAnt Jesse together speed yet. More speedsters diminishes Barry's uniqueness.

her speed is more flight related. so stop worrying about that. I just hope the writers/show runners remember her speed is actually unique among speedsters that way barry won't turn Un- unique and we won't keep seeing this kind of complaint. if screw it up it's on the show runners. it's not hard to show how she's different from Barry, wally and Jay(if the real Jay ever shows). since she's a flyer.


Jay needs the helmet To use his speed.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Just saw this article posted a couple of days ago that answers my question...

‘The Flash’: Don’t expect Jesse or Wally to become speedsters any time soon

If you’ve been patiently watching for Wally West (Keiynan Lonsdale) or Jesse “Quick” Wells (Violett Beane) to exhibit speedster powers on “The Flash,” hopefully you’re ready to be in it for the long haul.


According to executive producer Andrew Kreisberg, it’s probably going to be a while before you see them zipping around Central City.

“Right now the show is called ‘The Flash,'” he explains to the press during an advanced screening of the April 26 episode. “Barry Allen is the only Flash.” Or, at least, he will be should he get the Speed Force back in his system.

That’s not to say they’ll never get lightning fast, though. “Obviously there’s expectations for those characters and whether or not they’re realized is part of the fun and joy of watching the show,” he teases.

That said, chances are they aren’t going to load the show up with speedster superheroes. Kreisberg adds, “It will never be ‘Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.’ It will always be ‘The Flash.'”

http://zap2it.com/2016/04/the-flash-wally-west-jesse-quick-not-speedsters/

 

[Infinity9999x]

I gotta say, overall I've been pretty mixed on thus season. Zoom has been a pretty "meh" villain, especially compared to the awesomeness that was Cavanaugh's RF. On top of that, they keep trying to shoehorn in these dramatic moments with characters we don't really care about. All the drama with Jesse and Wells fell flat to me, because I barely know who Jesse is as a character, and as such I don't care. They've given me no reason to care about her family drama. Same goes for most of Wally's stuff. Wally has been written so he comes off very uninteresting, and the actors performance isn't doing much for me.

There's moments of greatness this season, but overall it's been a very mixed bag for me. I'm starting to slowly lose interest, and I hope they find a way to get back on track. I don't want to drop this show like I did Arrow.

How is everyone else feeling overall?

 

[Travesty]

I still like it a lot, but I do think season 1 was better. But most of my issues, were with the first 5-6 episodes. Since then, I think this season has been great.

 

[SpideyVille]

I gotta say, overall I've been pretty mixed on thus season. Zoom has been a pretty "meh" villain, especially compared to the awesomeness that was Cavanaugh's RF. On top of that, they keep trying to shoehorn in these dramatic moments with characters we don't really care about. All the drama with Jesse and Wells fell flat to me, because I barely know who Jesse is as a character, and as such I don't care. They've given me no reason to care about her family drama. Same goes for most of Wally's stuff. Wally has been written so he comes off very uninteresting, and the actors performance isn't doing much for me.

There's moments of greatness this season, but overall it's been a very mixed bag for me. I'm starting to slowly lose interest, and I hope they find a way to get back on track. I don't want to drop this show like I did Arrow.

How is everyone else feeling overall?

I'm the same. To be honest, with Arrow severely letting me down this season, and Flash not hitting the same heights as last season on a consistent basis, I've been falling off. I didn't even watch the last two episodes when they aired.

 

[Herolee10]

I personally have little to no interest in seeing Wally become kid flash at this point. The actor is very bland at acting.

 

[Mikelus]

I gotta say, overall I've been pretty mixed on thus season. Zoom has been a pretty "meh" villain, especially compared to the awesomeness that was Cavanaugh's RF. On top of that, they keep trying to shoehorn in these dramatic moments with characters we don't really care about. All the drama with Jesse and Wells fell flat to me, because I barely know who Jesse is as a character, and as such I don't care. They've given me no reason to care about her family drama. Same goes for most of Wally's stuff. Wally has been written so he comes off very uninteresting, and the actors performance isn't doing much for me.

I agree they have done a very poor job with Wally, he's not the Wally fans love, he's just too dull. Jesse has been written a bit better IMO and Violett Beane has been more solid so far, but Jesse running away and being back so quickly made that plot kind of pointless. It was a mistake to introduce these characters to then do nothing interesting with them. Like most fans, I think Season 1 was much better, it was more consistent and Wells/Thawne a more interesting character than Zoom.

 

[CrystalFortress]

Season 1 was much more interesting. It had a tighter story and introduced characters that they actually used.

Wally should be revealed to know Barry is Flash. He should know by now, he's practically been spoon-fed the information needed to deduce it. But at the same time, do we need another character not contributing in Star Labs. I don't think we need another hero speedster on the show at all, at not least in any long lasting capacity.

Jesse running away and then coming back so soon after did make it feel a little pointless. The whole cellular deadzone thing seemed to come out of nowhere as well, that's something they could have easily hidden in early episodes with Earth 2 Wells.

I'm hoping the last few episodes really tighten things up. The Man in the Iron Mask is the only thing I'm really still interested in.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I agree Fortress. The Man in the Iron Mask subplot is really the only interesting thing. I mean, the show isn't bad now, but there's just a lot of lazy writing going on. The cellular dead zone thing is a perfect example. The way Barry's dad just bounced out of the picture for no reason (reallllly thought they were setting him up to play a bigger role but apparently nope), the way they handled Patty earlier this season etc.

It just doesn't have the same heart. Zoom started out great, but he's become a pretty lackluster villain. His motivation is pretty dull, and the way they're they're trying to play out this Caitlyn love thing just falls flat to me. To be fair, he had big shoes to fill because Cavanaugh was one of the best villains I've seen on a superhero tv show (to the point where his episode as RF this season was easily my favorite of the season so far), but the writing really hasn't done anything to help Zoom be any more impressive.

It seems like the writers just had too many stories they wanted to tell, and instead of narrowing down on one or two, they tried to do all of them and ended up with a half-done mishmash of plot threads that never have really been developed fully in any one direction. Hopefully they can reign it in by the end of this season and get season 3 back on track. This show still hasn't gotten as bad as I feel Arrow has, but it's definitely in danger of slipping.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Black Siren will be Zooms general.

 

[Avenging Angel]

The Iron Mask has to be Eddie, Rick was rumored to have filmed something on set. All signs point.

 

[HELL N' SPIDERS]

The man in the Iron Mask is going to end up being Jay Garrick.

 

[Reek]

thats just a dumb thing to do though... Its so obviously where they are heading with it... but why would it be so shocking who it is like they've said... And Zoom says "you wouldn't believe me if I told you"... Uh yeah anyone would believe it now... so unless its just a bad move on the writers, it should be someone who actually brings the surprise factor.

Also... Zoom fighting Hunter Zolomon Flash ("jay Garrick" ) in the premiere, before hes sucked into the wormhole... none of it really makes any sense... So hunter grew up, deranged in the head, but being a hero (flash)... then finds out hes dying and becomes zoom years later? i mean... okkkk...

 

[ravn0s]

Black Siren will be Zooms general.

i hope shes survives and remains on earth 1 after barry convinces her to change sides.

Also... Zoom fighting Hunter Zolomon Flash ("jay Garrick" ) in the premiere, before hes sucked into the wormhole... none of it really makes any sense...

the fight was a lie.

So hunter grew up, deranged in the head, but being a hero (flash)... then finds out hes dying and becomes zoom years later? i mean... okkkk...

he was the flash and zoom at the same time. as the flash he wanted to bring hope to the people of central city so that he could steal it away as zoom. he only started dying after he created the velocity drug.

 

[Marvel Knight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHG_8y0-JCc

IGN comments on why Flash S2 is a huge mess. Especially with the Zoom storyline.

And what they discuss is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

thats just a dumb thing to do though... Its so obviously where they are heading with it... but why would it be so shocking who it is like they've said... And Zoom says "you wouldn't believe me if I told you"... Uh yeah anyone would believe it now... so unless its just a bad move on the writers, it should be someone who actually brings the surprise factor.

Also... Zoom fighting Hunter Zolomon Flash ("jay Garrick" ) in the premiere, before hes sucked into the wormhole... none of it really makes any sense... So hunter grew up, deranged in the head, but being a hero (flash)... then finds out hes dying and becomes zoom years later? i mean... okkkk...

I like to think it is his own father under the mask, and that Jay Garrick was a product of not losing his mother. So a split timeline, with the same man, but different outcomes.

 

[SpideyVille]

So John Wesley Shipp totally passes by my job. I saw someone that looked like him twice in the past 6 months, and then yesterday someone saw him in the train station and he waved at us. I hope I can run into him again and get a photo or autograph or something.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That is very cool SpideyVille.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, thats really cool.