The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 7

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Kevin Smith Confirms Jason Mewes Will Appear on The Flash
http://comicbook.com/2016/03/29/kevin-smith-confirms-jay-mewes-will-appear-on-the-flash/

...Fans have been wondering if Mewes and Smith would cameo in as their characters Jay and Silent Bob, best known from Smith’s own oeuvre of films, in the episode.

“I did not put Jay and Silent Bob in it,” Smith said on an episode of the Hollywood Babble-On podcast. “I did put Jay in it.”...

Funny... I could've sworn that there was already a Jay and Silent Bob on the Flash... :D

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so jay garrick flash was fighting zoom in the beginning of the season... then somehow turns out to be hunter zolomon zoom... ive gone crosseyed.

the **** is going on.
 
I have clearly not been paying attention to the behind the scenes. How much of this is Kevin Smith directing?
 
Yes, and we'll see. Smallville was separate from Superman Returns and still ran long enough to see its own end (which is weird because both were loosely connected to the Donner Films, with SR being a vague sequel and Smallville using the theme and some likenesses).

This version of the Flash will most likely be in a different universe, just like his world is separate from Supergirl, but at the same time, with DC killing off Deadshot, Amanda Waller and not showing Deathstroke or Captain Boomerang again because of Suicide Squad, there's still the possibility that the show will either end or be completely different by the time the Flash film comes out.

Smallville's backstory/symbols/cave portal was re-orchestrated to homage the Donner Fortress of Solitude by the end of Season 4 and for the rest of the show's life, because Bryan Singer and Warner Bros. features were in production on Superman Returns, and essentially "persuaded" Gough and Millar, Smallville's creators and showrunners, to "adjust" their background narrative/visual aesthetic to better resemble the original Donner vision...and thus, parallel Singer's film.

DC Entertainment doesn't have that yay-or-nay say as you imply -- they have input, of course, but it's Warner Bros. features who are making the decisions on those things.

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so jay garrick flash was fighting zoom in the beginning of the season... then somehow turns out to be hunter zolomon zoom... ive gone crosseyed.

the **** is going on.

My theory/understanding of it is;

- On Earth-2, The Flash is Jay Garrick, and Zoom is Hunter Zoloman. They are identical twins separated at birth
- They fought a few times, and at the time the wormhole opened, what we were told was true. Zoom had pretty much won and was about to kill Jay.
- Jay's (now depleted of the speedforce) body was sucked through the wormhole, while Zoom ran the opposite way
- Zoom eventually came through the wormhole in his own time, once he'd worked out what it was
- Zoom came through and took Flash/Jay's body and he is keeping him hostage - Jay-2 is the man in the mask (hence a boiler suit, not his actual suit, as Zoom took it from him)
- Zoom then found his Earth-1 doppelgänger and convinced him to help him. By knowing his own identity (Zoloman-2) Zoom knows Zoloman-1 looks identical to him and Flash/Jay-2, and also that he has no speedforce in his system
- Zoloman-1 pretends to be Flash/Jay-2 every time we've seen him, and reports back to Zoom what's happening
- Zoom killed Zoloman-1 in episode 15, and realised he now had no way to get the inside knowledge on what the team were doing

I think that's what's happening..... But it means somewhere on Earth-1 is a twin Jay-1. Obviously he's not a speedster, and he may not even be a 'Jay', hence why Caitlin couldn't find him

Not sure if that's right or even close, though!
 
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I just had an epiphany !!! ...

nº 1 - who is zoom !?
my theory : Jay and zoom are one and the same ... kinda

Jay grows up and becomes the flash;
finds out he is sick, travels back in time to try so solve the problem as a child;
accidentaly changes his whole life story;
now he grows up and become zoom.

conclusion : Jay and zoom are the same person, from different timelines

but why is zoom named "hunter zolomon" !?

simple : Jay has telling the truth about the hunter in the park (addopted by the zolomons)
maybe the same thing happened to Jay on earth-2 after his history has changed ...

nº 2 - who is the prisioner in the mask !?
jay/zoom/hunter's father !!!

jay mentioned that his helmet belonged to his father, who fought in the "war of the americas" ... and the prisioner WAS using war codes to communicate ...

BUT ... if its not someone we know, WHY is it really so surprising !?
because it IS someone we know ... HENRY ALLEN !!!

I have been making some research on the 1990 flash show by curiosity ... and I found out that in that show, nora is not the person who dies ... its barry's brother ... JAY allen

BOOM *drops the mic*
 
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Possible Evil E2 Laurel is making an appearance on an episode of The Flash, Katie was filming last last night
 
Possible Evil E2 Laurel is making an appearance on an episode of The Flash, Katie was filming last last night

Or maybe:

She's a metahuman Black Canary with a true Canary Cry who even comes to Earth-1 following (Arrow possible future spoilers)
Laurel being the one in the grave.

A guy can dream, right?
 
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Didn't the sizzle reel for
the remaining Legends of Tomorrow episodes show the LoT going back to a Starling City with a younger Lance family? Could Cassidy filming (if she is the one in the grave) ATM be for them & not Flash or Arrow?
 
Didn't the sizzle reel for
the remaining Legends of Tomorrow episodes show the LoT going back to a Starling City with a younger Lance family? Could Cassidy filming (if she is the one in the grave) ATM be for them & not Flash or Arrow?

Yes it did but that has already been shot, this is from last night.
Katie filmed with actual Flash cast members
 
Yes it did but that has already been shot, this is from last night.
Katie filmed with actual Flash cast members


It would be great if

She ended up on LoT season 2. That show doesn't use Firestorm more than half the time anyway so they might as well replace them with BC & Vixen.
 

Hm. She certainly seems to be carrying herself like a villain, a la Killer Frost, but I guess I can't be sure of that. I'll just say that [BLACKOUT]I'm still hoping if it is Laurel in the grave, E2 Laurel will join the team, so it would certainly douse those hopes if she is a villain.[/BLACKOUT] But she could be an anti-hero or just a more arrogant/aggressive hero in E2. Like E2's version of what Huntress should've been.
 
Wow she looks amazing. Definitely looks E2 related.
 
wow that's laurel? Oh before I for get I just got this via face book.






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"The Flash" Releases "Versus Zoom" Synopsis
The CW has released the official synopsis for Team Flash's next face-to-face showdown with Zoom.

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Following the release of photos and a video teaser for "The Flash's" next confrontation with Zoom and the villain's secret origin, The CW has debuted the episode's official synopsis.
RELATED: Zoom Stands Unmasked Before the Team in New "Flash" Photos
BARRY IS READY TO FACE ZOOM; HUNTER ZOLOMAN’S STORY IS REVEALED – Equipped with the tachyon device, Barry (Grant Gustin) believes he is fast enough to stop Zoom (guest star Teddy Sears) and wants to open the breaches to catch him. Harry (Tom Cavanagh) strongly advises against that plan but after Barry convinces him, Harry reveals that Cisco (Carlos Valdes) has the power to re-open the breach. Meanwhile, Hunter Zoloman’s (Teddy Sears) painful story on Earth-2 is revealed. Stefan Pleszcynski directed the episode written by Joe Peracchio & David Kob (#218).
"Versus Zoom" airs Tuesday, April 19 at 8 p.m. on The CW.

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we're also likely to find out what Henry Allen has been up to as well.
(not this very episode. but soon) .
 
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