The FF rights aren't for sale. This film will not suddenly change hands and be released by Disney in the MCU when it's in post production. Fox is not desperate enough for the X-Men TV rights that they're going to hand over the distribution rights to a summer movie that they already invested millions in. No sane company does that.
Why would we think that any deal about FF rights for X-Men TV rights would have to do with handing things over like what you are saying? Couldn't the whole thing take place after the summer, after this movie has come out? And be much more likely, even, if this movie does not ring any bells at the box office?
And let's say it is the way you seem to assume it here...well no sane company would want to be stuck with having to promote and release something that only stood a fair chance of making them a small amount of profit and could very likely end up in overall loss at the box office? All these things are unknowns.
It comes down to your own judgement on the situation. It could be that getting this off their hands would be in their best interests. Personally, I agree with you, I don't think that they'll turn over the movie at this point. But like I said, I don't understand why that is some kind of either/or situation for you to think about. Lots of possibilities and permutations at play.
This is the reboot we're getting. Fox isn't going to repeat Sony's mistakes and reboot a reboot. Fans were divided on Man of Steel and it didn't earn as much as Warner would have liked but they still pressed on with Batman v. Superman since again, they don't want to reboot a reboot.
Warner owns the rights to the DC catalog of characters. They own them. It is their property. It's a good deal for them, and there is ridiculously enormous potential to be exploited there. Crazy mounds of money. And they don't have to worry about some licensing agreement hanging over their heads. It is their property.
This is such a different situation than FF. FF is one isolated package of things. It is not very large. Maybe they can crossover with their separate X-Men package, I don't know, but even if they can, FF is entirely not essential to the success of the X-Men package. It would be an accessory to that. Unless FF can generate some energy and love for itself, it is not gonna have any synergistic effects with their X-Men movies. So I think u gotta look at it like...'Why do we need to keep this property here? What are the benefits, what are the risks, and most importantly, is money put into FF movies very possibly better used elsewhere?'
And anyone at Fox who wants money to be used elsewhere is gonna have knives out on any mediocre performance for FF. It seems that this movie may very well not be supported with any unified drive within Fox. To me, it seems like there is just not the kind of clarity and sense of purpose that X-Men movies have. And that just makes sense becuz of the value of each property compared to each other. I personally think there have been people at Fox who have always thought this movie was a bad idea to go ahead with. That money would be better spent on developing the stronger franchise, X-Men. And just ridding themselves of this little other thing that yields no synergistic benefits whereas other X-Men movies could very well do that and that also has a pretty low ceiling as a solo franchise. So I think there must be division in Fox over this. And that is something, if true, that really totally works in Marvel Studios' favor, obviously.
Becuz if Marvel could offer something that Fox would go... wow, we could really use that, actually, why would Fox not rid itself of this? And a thing like an X-Men TV show is not just about the TV show. It is about synergy and strengthening the healthier property of the two separate packages.
X-Men TV show would help Fox's X-Men movies in the same way that Marvel's AOS helps their MCU movies. And there must be people at Fox, and i think these would be the smart people, who realize that FF for X-Men TV is just a crazy good deal for them if they could get away with it.
It's actually kind of an albatross off their neck, cuz they could just focus on the strong thing. You know, within this little pocket within Fox of summer blockbuster action films. X-Men is a pretty goddam good thing going on. And they've barely even touched the potential on it.
And Marvel isn't going to cram the Fantastic Four into Phase 3 if this film does Ghost Rider 2 numbers. If anything it would be put in limbo like Blade and Punisher and unfortunately is too expensive for a TV series.
Either Fox will do the sequel regardless of reception or if the film flops hard, they'll hold on to the rights for another 8 years or they'll sell the FF back to Marvel after a really nasty flop that will cause Marvel to not reboot the FF and keep the comic canceled due to lack of interest.
Fantastic Four has no value in Phase 3, I don't even know why you think that's part of the equation. Marvel is set til the end of Infinity 2. FF has tremendous value to Marvel in Phase 4 and onwards.
Crazy value. And this last scenario of yours Fox selling FF back after a flop, does not mean that FF is in Limbo. haha. what are you talking about? FF would be right there... boom!.. first round of Phase 4. no doubt, hands down, heads off they would be. FF is a huge property in Marvel's hands.
All this bizarre stuff about X-Men TV rights for Shi'ar...?
u gotta be kidding me.
and where does this Inhumans depends on Guardians crossover and only by Shi'ar key? I don't wanna phrase things disrespectfully, but you are making major huge leaps of assumption, and also saying that very specific things need to be there to pull these leaps of assumption off.
