The "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) thread - Part 7

[The Infernal]

Yeah. Reminded me too of the old Skeletor editing He-man's wiki entry. Classic.

 

[RAE072]

This is perfect for Trank's style though. Four random people/family get together. Freak accident in space (a reality series documenting tourists in space isn't very far away people). Domashev hacks the systems and gets a ticket as well. Everyone gets zapped with superpowers. They are taken in by the government and green screened the rest of the film. Perfectly plausible minus the superpowers. This is something Trank can do well going by Chronicle.

Well thank christ it fits into Trank's comfort zone at the expense of a Fantastic Four movie that resembles the Fantastic Four in any way.

 

[Dark Raven]

This is perfect for Trank's style though. Four random people/family get together. Freak accident in space (a reality series documenting tourists in space isn't very far away people). Domashev hacks the systems and gets a ticket as well. Everyone gets zapped with superpowers. They are taken in by the government and green screened the rest of the film. Perfectly plausible minus the superpowers. This is something Trank can do well going by Chronicle.

That sounds like a plausible explanation for why it is all found footage and looks very lo-fi and grounded. You don't have to build huge sets either because they can just say that things were out of the frame of the camera. They can also pretend that they get attacked and the camera man drops his camera so that you only hear things going on but don't actually see them apart from the bottom of people's legs running around.

 

[Casius--J]

Forget about the other billion people in the world! As long as Casius J doesn't see it, You've made Fox and the cast happy. They personally made this movie to your specific designs to make sure you don't see it.

 

[StarLord]

Can't wait for the sequel, Rise of the Silver Surfer.

 

[Mr.M]

Well thank christ it fits into Trank's comfort zone at the expense of a Fantastic Four movie that resembles the Fantastic Four in any way.

Still, I perfectly get it now, and this explains how Trank and Kinberg got on the same page.

Fox exec: "Get the budget down, Simon."
Kinberg: "Yes, sir. Lemme see what Trank has in mind and see if I can put two and two together".
Trank: "I am envisioning a found footage, documentary style that is very plausible and realistic. And this reality TV series premise would match that exactly."

I also think Fox chose Trank as this is obviously the direction they wanted to go in (gritty/grounded). Why make an under budgeted wannabe MCU film that wouldn't be much better than Story's camp fest and wouldn't have the scale of a world building cinematic universe? Instead, they slash the budget by 2/3's and come up with this edgy sci-fi thriller. This is something that can actually turn a profit and garner curiosity from a small but significant portion of the GA.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Still, I perfectly get it now, and this explains how Trank and Kinberg got on the same page.

Fox exec: "Get the budget down, Simon."
Kinberg: "Yes, sir. Lemme see what Trank has in mind and see if I can put two and two together".
Trank: "I am envisioning a found footage, documentary style that is very plausible and realistic. And this reality TV series premise would match that exactly."

I also think Fox chose Trank as this is obviously the direction they wanted to go in (gritty/grounded). Why make an under budgeted wannabe MCU film that wouldn't be much better than Story's camp fest and wouldn't have the scale of a world building cinematic universe? Instead, they slash the budget by 2/3's and come up with this edgy sci-fi thriller. This is something that can actually turn a profit and garner curiosity from a small but significant portion of the GA.

And ironically if it wasn't called the Fantastic Four I might have actually watched that movie.

 

[Dark Raven]

Does the movie actually need to be called "Fantastic Four" or could it be called "Four" or something else and still fall within the contractual terms?

The Dark Knight didn't have Batman in the title, and neither did Man of Steel have Superman.

 

[The Infernal]

I wouldn't be surprised if they did a name change like that to re-brand the movie to what the think passes for cool.

 

[Dark Raven]

I wouldn't be surprised if they did a name change like that to re-brand the movie to what the think passes for cool.

Can they do that later on for the DVD/BR? Like how "Edge of Tomorrow" has essentially been rebranded as "Live, Die, Repeat".

If there is a requirement to call it FF, maybe that's only for theatres, but once it's already out, perhaps they can call it what they like.

 

[The Infernal]

I dunno. I didn't know they had settled for Fantastic Four already for cinematic release. I just thought they'd settle on the name whenever they decided to officially announce the film with the start of their advertising campaign.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

They could do, F4, The Fantastic Four, Fantastic 4, FF, Future Foundation

 

[TheLastAvenger]

Take this with a pound of salt as you would any message board whispering a, but someone over on the Bleeding Cool boards swears that he was involved with the production and knows some details about the movie. He says that in the film the Fantastic Four aren't scientists, but instead they win a reality TV show to go into space, and when they return home they have a documentary crew following them around 24/7. Normally I'd just dismiss this as utter nonsense, but based on everything else we've heard about the film this now sounds eerily credible.

Haha, oh god that does sound credible. Believe it or not, I think I'd be more okay with that given the other deviations. Because if that really were the plot, then it's not the Fantastic Four at all.

After all, let's face it, for every new adaptation, the value of the franchise decreases. If Marvel got the rights to Spider-man tomorrow, they couldn't reboot the franchise for a third time. It's well-worn territory for general audiences, and even with all the imperfections within the franchise, you have to account for what came before, whether you want to or not. Tread the same territory, even being set in the MCU, and audiences will be completely ambivalent.

But this? Marvel could make a faithful F4 movie a few years down the line and whatever this adaptation is won't even factor. It's so drastically different that it won't even seem like the same franchise. Hell, I hope Doctor Doom isn't the only one with a name change. Change all their names, it'll make things even easier. I'm actually hoping they don't call it the Fantastic Four at all. Just call it "F4" or some garbage like that and then we can all be confident that when Marvel inevitably gets the rights back, that Fox hasn't burned the franchise to the ground.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm surprisingly not finding the reality tv thing to be that far fetched. It fits with everything we know so far.

Sounds crazy enough to where it just might be true!

Dang it Casius! Now when you post, I'm only going to picture you as that jerk Wacka Flacka in my head............and man does he suck.

 

[Dark Raven]

They could do, F4, The Fantastic Four, Fantastic 4, FF, Future Foundation

Those two are too similar to the Tim Story movies. Just the presence of a definite article doesn't change much as audiences won't remember if there's a "the" or not in the title, or if "four" is written as a number. Roger Corman's movie had "the" in the title anyway.

 

[Docker2.0]

And ironically if it wasn't called the Fantastic Four I might have actually watched that movie.

Sadly, I would have watched it in theaters but not when this is suppose to be F4!

Does the movie actually need to be called "Fantastic Four" or could it be called "Four" or something else and still fall within the contractual terms?

The Dark Knight didn't have Batman in the title, and neither did Man of Steel have Superman.

If it's not called F4, with the way it sounds, I'm sure Disney would sue to get the rights back because this is NOTHING like the F4. That's like making a CSI show and having a killer cop and saying it's the Punisher. But I guess we will find out in a few months if a trailer ever comes out.

 

[Dark Raven]

If only Edgar Wright had worked on this script, it would've gone way over the deadline. Maybe he'll be put in charge of marketing and promotion.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Those two are too similar to the Tim Story movies. Just the presence of a definite article doesn't change much as audiences won't remember if there's a "the" or not in the title, or if "four" is written as a number. Roger Corman's movie had "the" in the title anyway.

It wont matter, its not like the FF have that many choices

 

[Mr.M]

Go with FF:Real Space, or Big Brother in Space, The Amazing Space, Space Survivors, Desperate Spacewives, Superpower Swap. Any will do.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Jesus. The doom thing is what ardent haters of Nolan's Batman films think they are.

 

[Spidey's Curse]

They should call it Fantastic Four: The World's Greatest Movie

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Fantastic Fail

The Asstastic Four

Ticket Refund: The Movie

 

[Spiderine]

All of you are just being trolled by Dr Doom.

 

[hippie_hunter]

At this point, I seriously wonder if Marvel can just sue to get the rights back due to how this is soooooooooo not the Fantastic Four.

 

[StarLord]

All of you are just being trolled by Dr Doom.