Gotham The Official Gotham News and discussion thread - Part 3

That sounds perfect

 

It's insane how much I love this show. I really don't get the hate at all.

Honestly this is the highest quality DC show. Despite the fact that it doesn't follow the comics.

 

I didn't care for this weeks ep but the Mad Hatter looks interesting next week.

 

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Instead that Bruce meet Clark(Superman) i will more like that he ''meet'' The Shadow... (it already happen at all, at his young age)

He will go to Gotham Bank with Alfred to fix some problems. Probably problems which make his evil twin

They will arrive just few mins before some thugs jump in and start rob the bank... Of course when it start they two (Alfred and Bruce) gonna to be heroes there, to stop it. But all finish so fast when dark shadow comes through the floor.... and beat all thugs in the blink of an eye !!! Shadow can stay for a while in show...

After that Bruce start investigate about shadows, and found something for what he don't know that is totally diferent !!! League of the Shadows... Thinking that is shadow part of that league, start searching for them... ...and when he find them - he got choice become part of it or die... there he can be well trained and latter escape Full trained to be Batman
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Anyway.... i am more curious about sth else... all Bruce familly....
Thomas Wayne have a brother - Philip Wayne - where is he ???
In some other universe Martha have a brother - Philip Kane... where is he ???
Where is other Martha brother... Nathan Kane ??? Where is her causin... Jacob Kane ??? Where is his daughter // Bruce cousin Katherine Rebecca Kane... better known as Kate Kane - Batwoman... we all know this is not Batman show... so introduce and her

 

I haven't quite got into the show at all this season and I'm afraid this show could have in all probability evolved out of the type of stories that interest me.

The first season started well but was too flat and there was no magic to it.

The second season blended the grounded and comic aspects of the source perfectly and in my opinion was the best superhero show on network TV last season. All the characters involved were believably the proto versions of the characters I actually love and I really dug that about the show.

This season so far- and the vibes I'm getting so far about the direction this season wants to take- is much too zany for me to take seriously. The two episodes almost became slapstick at times and the continuity from the Second season is jarringly absent.

Also, they are viciously close to piercing the threshold from where I can't see the story return to comic canon which for me is important in origin shows.

 

While I found the first two episodes underwhelming I have very high hopes for tomorrow's episode. All the storylines except Jim and Lee are strong and I could see it working to revitalize the show.

 

Dude the train left that station in the pilot

Gotham is in it's own world the way the other DC shows have been and are.

 

People seem to always forget the fact that there is no single comic canon.

Every single retelling of the Batman mythos has introduced changes in the same and there are dozens of universes. Most people who take issue with this behavior of Gotham really don't know all that much about Batman.

 

Gotham as i have said is basicly the batman version of smallville.

yes a lot of villains are closer to where they become before bruce is batman but honestly except for freeze they aren't 100% there.

DC in comics during their varas reboots have made massive changes themselves so no different here.

I am sure at some point they will come up with some reason for gordon to
get back on police force.

you have had characters in live action for first time in gotham.

 

Gotham is way higher in quality than Smallville

 

I agree with that but in many ways gotham is the equilvent for batman to what Smallville was to Superman.

 

Yeah no doubt. Just way better. Smallville feels cheap and dated. I enjoy both but it's true. Gotham dominates Smallville every time. I really love all the main characters. Great casting. Especially on Gordon, Alfred, Bruce, Lucius, and Bullock. Spot on.

 

Tonight's episode is the start of Batcat christmas

 

A 24 hour live feed of a goldfish swimming around a bowl is better than Smallville.

 

I had high hopes for Smallville during its first 1-2 seasons. The cast was good and they seemed to be playing setup for some great things. Unfortunately it turned out the creators had no idea where they were going and once Rosenbaum left the series was more or less dead.

I'm hoping I won't face a similar disappointment with Gotham, and I think it largely depends on Heller's continued involvement with the show.

 

Tom Welling is one of the worst actors in any DCTV show. He makes Stephen Amell seem passable by comparison.

 

He fit perfectly okay for the thankless role as Clark Kent.

Tom Welling wasn't a good actor but the supporting cast such as Ma Kent, Pa Kent, Chloe, Oliver and even Lana were either good or well-casted. And it doesn't hurt that their Lex was the best seen in any moving picture medium period.

 

Sure. I'm not advocating they be dogmatic with what has been written in the comics at all. I haven't a single problem with what they have done till date and they indeed have made a lot of changes. If you read my entire statement, it's what I think they are looking to do from here on, on which I may well be wrong, that concerns me.

I'm not with you on complete carte blanche. That's how things like Catwoman come about.

 

I almost wished the show started with an 8-10yr old Bruce losing his family. Then introducing a few of the other characters (uniformed cop Gordon). Then flash-forward to an 17-18yr old Bruce who just came back to Gotham after spending time away. Then lead into the storylines we have gotten. He is still a few years away from being full on Batman. But, his age would be closer to the villains we have seen and we can see him slowly start to train to become bats.

 

But most the major villains and friends are basically in the same age range compared to Bruce in the comic books as they are on Gotham. So I can't see where having an older Bruce on the TV show would make a difference in that regard. Penguin was always older. Mr. Freeze was always older. Riddler maybe too. Selina and Ivy have always been about his age. Scarecrow is about his age on the TV show. Gordan, Bullock and Lee were always older. Who, other than maybe Two Face, is older on the TV show than in the comic books?

 

Selina is about 8 years younger than Bruce, usually. Not sure about Ivy, but her demeanor makes me think older. She's obsessed with motherhood and family. The ages compared to Bruce are mostly accurate.

 

Didn't feel it either but I'd actually put that on the Hatter and Bruce's clone, both have left me underwhelmed. Ed and Oswald seem to be the strongest aspect so far.

I'm actually a fan of the show as well, season 1 frustrated but I loved season 2. I hope it picks up again.

 

How so?

 

In that they've consistently worked well as characters individually and together. The idea of Ed and Oswald masterminding a tilt at the mayor's office is actually exciting.