The Dark Knight Rises The Official Rate/Review Thread for TDKR (TAG SPOILERS!!!) - Part 1

[UaalaDan]

What about his leg that he could barely walk even less jump?? It is such a missed opportunity for a exoskeleton like Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come or Batman Beyond.

 

[roach]

He put the thingie on his leg and it did something and then he could walk regular

 

[munchie64]

I think Americans should be offended by how crime filled Gotham was. Seriously, do those crazy British directors think every American city is like that?

 

[Voyeur]

As far as I know Bruce may have still had that leg brace thing on...it was dug in pretty good as I recall. And we know they "fixed" his back, so the injuries took a back seat to escaping the pit in Bruce's mind.

There's no doubt TDKR has some plot holes. It's especially difficult to fill the holes of a superhero film.

 

[Midnight Black]

What about his leg that he could barely walk even less jump?? It is such a missed opportunity for a exoskeleton like Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come or Batman Beyond.

You my friend need to see this movie again, or go watch spiderman lol jst/kdng.

He had the power knee on remember. He could kick threw brick. I'm surprised he didn't just scale the pit and jump right out like John Carter lol jst/kdng.

 

[roach]

I think Americans should be offended by how crime filled Gotham was. Seriously, do those crazy British directors think every American city is like that?

Americans are so corrupt we need a man in a rubber Bat-suit to do the work of several police forces

 

[Lando81]

I've said this elsewhere but I'll say it again. 10/10. Best of the trilogy. Best Nolan film PERIOD.

 

[Voyeur]

Yeah, I can definitely respect when someone is offended at the horrible portrayal of a person's homeland. Or a land one is familiar with. I've lived in Japan and Germany and traveled a lot of the world. And I get offended when I see or hear prejudicial behavior or comments regarding those people.

But we may be taking it too far when we are offended by the depiction of a comic book prison in a part of the world left deliberately vague.

 

[craigdbfan]

I think Americans should be offended by how crime filled Gotham was. Seriously, do those crazy British directors think every American city is like that?

I'm not offended.

I live in the Bay Area and I can tell you Gotham isn't too far off on its portrayal of a rotting American city.

 

[Micromind]

I think Americans should be offended by how crime filled Gotham was. Seriously, do those crazy British directors think every American city is like that?

Dude, Gotham is not set in real world, it is a city in US but, it exists in DC Universe, a comic book alternate universe.

 

[Voyeur]

I think munchie64 was joking.

 

[redbirds]

I just did not like the concept of the prison and felt offended. It was very prejudiced to image a prison in a foreign country run by villains, imo, or no government interaction or anything. This is 2012 not 1800. It is a very narrow view of the world. I expected more from Nolan.

Moreover, i think they missed a chance for showing Bruce in need of an exoskeleton for the final Battle, just like he does in Kingdom Come and other Batman comics. They simply ignored his injuries like nothing happened. All he did was have a few push-ups and say "oh im angry"... The concept of his body failing him which was the main theme of the movie was completely ignored.

Are you freaking kidding me? You're actually serious by this above statement? There is just not enough eye roll emoticons for this.

 

[craigdbfan]

@Voyeur Joke or not there are plenty of American cities that are polluted with criminal filth. Nolan isn't depicting something that's completely false. Obviously it's a heightened hyper reality but I'm glad he's showing that cities here have as much if not more problems than some other cities in the world.

 

[UaalaDan]

You my friend need to see this movie again, or go watch spiderman lol jst/kdng.

He had the power knee on remember. He could kick threw brick. I'm surprised he didn't just scale the pit and jump right out like John Carter lol jst/kdng.

I actually thought Amazing Spider-man was much better than this. At least the flaws didn't bothered me as much. I'm more of a Batman fan so this hurts more. Still, it is just a movie. It is not the end of the world and we all have different opinions.

Maybe my main grip with the movie is that I don't think Bruce Wayne's story as Batman should ever end and when the ending is not what I like, the movie completely fails as a whole. The only aspect I liked of the ending was Wayne Manor becoming an orphanage and Batman's line about heroes to Gordon.

The montage? Alfred was out of character as he should have been proud that Bruce saved the city. Statue looked awful, not majestically enough for someone who saved a city from Nuclear destruction. Ending with Selina made no sense, imo. Had the movie ended with Bruce training Blake would've been so much better than him just forgetting about the future of the city. It is out of character, imo. Had the movie shown he was unable to continue his fight because he is old, injured, then it would be much more satisfying and in character for Batman as I know. As it stands, he simply gave up to live with someone he doesn't love at all which is BS.

 

[Lando81]

I'm not offended.

I live in the Bay Area and I can tell you Gotham isn't too far off on its portrayal of a rotting American city.

Hey now, I've got many a friend in SF, Alameda, San Mateo and Sonoma, and from what I've experienced the Bay Area is a lovely place.

 

[redbirds]

@Voyeur Joke or not there are plenty of American cities that are polluted with criminal filth. Nolan isn't depicting something that's completely false. Obviously it's a heightened hyper reality but I'm glad he's showing that cities here have as much if not more problems than some other cities in the world.

I live in New Orleans and I can attest to city corruption and crime ha ha ha

Despite this, I love love love this city.

 

[craigdbfan]

Hey now, I've got many a friend in SF, Alameda, San Mateo and Sonoma, and from what I've experienced the Bay Area is a lovely place.

I've lived in Oakland and Berkeley my entire life and have gone to their public schools so no offense but I'm a lot more familiar with the reality of the situation than someone visiting. Sure not all of it's bad but you're kidding yourself if you think it's all dandelions and sunshine.

Not to long ago on my way home from The Avengers a drunken moron pulled out a knife on me while I was on the bus. Completely unprovoked attack on me because he had fallen earlier for swaying back and forth due to his own intoxication.

Before that my car was stolen from a "secure" parking lot while I was working. I had to quit that job because my family didn't think it was safe. They were right it wasn't a safe area and I had late hours.

That isn't the shining example of a lovely place. Having 100+ murders a year in Oakland alone shows there are some serious problems here. An ever worsening pandemic of criminal behavior.

 

[Micromind]

I liked TDKR and I also liked TASM, but the ending makes sense as this is Nolan's take on the character, Batman will not be needed when there is no law and Order problem in Gotham (or which can be handled by regular Cops.)

In comics Batman can never give up as his comics are published on a weekly basis.

 

[Micromind]

I've lived in Oakland and Berkeley my entire life and have gone to their public schools so no offense but I'm a lot more familiar with the reality of the situation than someone visiting. Sure not all of it's bad but you're kidding yourself if you think it's all dandelions and sunshine.

Not to long ago on my way home from The Avengers a drunken moron pulled out a knife on me while I was on the bus. Completely unprovoked attack on me because he had fallen earlier for swaying back and forth due to his own intoxication.

Before that my car was stolen from a "secure" parking lot while I was working. I had to quit that job because my family didn't think it was safe. They were right it wasn't a safe area and I had late hours.

That isn't the shining example of a lovely place. Having 100+ murders a year in Oakland alone shows there are some serious problems here. An ever worsening pandemic of criminal behavior.

Family have right to worry when cases like this happen.

 

[Midnight Black]

@UaalaDan....Bruce is trying to live a normal life wit Selina. They may not work out, but at least he is trying to be normal. She basically confessed that she like him during the fighting and they should run away together and try to forget everything. He is trying.

Alfred is proud and I will say that again, Alfred is proud of Bruce and everything he has done! But like any father-figure he wants him to be safe and protect his adopted son from anything that might harm or kill him. He is saddened by what Bruce has become when not fighting crime. Bruce did not move on when he wasn't needed. They both carried the guild of Rachel's death in different ways.

I think Alfred leaving was in align with what we have seen from the past films. This isn't the comic Alfred that stays with Bruce. Even then we only see Alfred with Bruce up until he is in his 40s. What about after? There has never been a story of a 50-60 Bruce Wayne/Batman where Alfred is still around.

Bruce in this movie is in his late 30s so it is easy to assume Alfred would leave if not needed or wanted.

 

[munchie64]

Guys I was kidding because UaalaDan was making stupid accusations about being offended.

 

[Leenie]

This movie gets a solid 8-8.5/10 from me, and if I had to rank the Nolan Bat-films ...

The Dark Knight > The Dark Knight Rises > Batman Begins.

I have a few issues with this movie, to be honest. I think that [BLACKOUT]Miranda Tate/Talia[/BLACKOUT] was completely pointless and the use of that character made the screenplay feel a bit more cluttered. I also think it tainted [BLACKOUT]Bane's character a bit, because after the big reveal of Talia, Bane is reduced to lackey status after 2 1/2 hours of being built up. I would have been fine with him being Ras Al Ghul's son, personally[/BLACKOUT].

I also was a little bothered with Bane's voice. I think in some scenes, they hammed him up a bit, personally. [BLACKOUT]When he was making the speech about Harvey Dent, I felt it dragged on too long and it kind of annoyed me[/BLACKOUT].

Aside from those two things I'm not too crazy about, I think the movie's great. The action scenes were the best of the trilogy by far, the finale is unbelievably epic, ANNE FREAKIN' HATHAWAY WAS AWESOME AS CATWOMAN, and I fangasmed when [BLACKOUT]Bane broke Batman's back (it was right out of the comic book ... So surreal to finally see that iconic moment in a movie!)[/BLACKOUT].

 

[roach]

I'm not offended.

I live in the Bay Area and I can tell you Gotham isn't too far off on its portrayal of a rotting American city.

so why haven't you joined a secret ninja organization and used what they taught you to become more than a man and bring justice to your city

 

[Duncan21]

I've said this elsewhere but I'll say it again. 10/10. Best of the trilogy. Best Nolan film PERIOD.

It was amazing. People here whining about little plot holes have to be kidding me.. Anyone saying this is not as good as BB (It's much better) when you had Katie Holmes stinking out the joint and horrible action scenes really need to get a clue..

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

As far as I know Bruce may have still had that leg brace thing on...it was dug in pretty good as I recall. And we know they "fixed" his back, so the injuries took a back seat to escaping the pit in Bruce's mind.

There's no doubt TDKR has some plot holes. It's especially difficult to fill the holes of a superhero film.

I'm never one to back away from trying to find things wrong with the Batman movies, but I don't even care about this movie's plot holes. I was enjoying the movie way too much to let stupid plot holes ruin it.

Wayne's healing was unrealistic? I justify it by the fact that I was watching a freaking BATMAN movie.