The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread - Part 3

[El Payaso]

^ I thought you didn't like Thor

You thought what you wanted to think. I said many times I liked the action and some of the acting. Problem is that I don't think it's a specially good movie but average in a number of aspects, and since I didn't say 'great' some people thought 'hater.'

 

[BigThor]

You thought what you wanted to think. I said many times I liked the action and some of the acting. Problem is that I don't think it's a specially good movie but average in a number of aspects, and since I didn't say 'great' some people thought 'hater.'

Sure, I didn't have any reason to think that at all.

 

[Midnight Black]

LOL....Joe Swanson: "Hah!" I don't think I have ever heard someone say they are going to see a movie twice if it's just average. First time for everything, I guess.

 

[BigThor]

LOL....Joe Swanson: "Hah!" I don't think I have ever heard someone say they are going to see a movie twice if it's just average. First time for everything, I guess.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[JAK®]

Nothing tops the guy who hated Superman Returns with every fiber of his being and yet saw it in theatres 13 times.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Now that's what I call 'just to make absolutely sure'.

 

[BigThor]

Nothing tops the guy who hated Superman Returns with every fiber of his being and yet saw it in theatres 13 times.

I've never seen a movie I LOVED in theaters 13 times, much less a movie I hated.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Nothing tops the guy who hated Superman Returns with every fiber of his being and yet saw it in theatres 13 times.

LOL who was this?

 

[Tony Stark]

This was a hypester? I've seen it twice, once in the theaters, and then it was in the dollar bin at wall-mart, so I thought 'what the hell', watched it again, and have no desire to ever watch it again.

I will say in this guys defense, the movie is so forgetable, that when I watched it the second time, it was like watching a brand new movie. A brand new movie that really sucks, that is.

 

[BigThor]

A modern day Superman movie with no super-powered antagonist = "Are you ****in serious"?

 

[kedrell]

Nothing tops the guy who hated Superman Returns with every fiber of his being and yet saw it in theatres 13 times.

I don't like SR at all but I saw it 3X. Of course that was because the first two times I nodded off before the movie ended and I wanted to at least see the complete movie once. 3rd time was the charm.

 

[Doc Samson]

A little late to this party (sometimes life does indeed intrude t but I enjoyed the film. I'd give it a solid 7/10.

Hemsworth embodies the god of thunder with the right amount of strength, nobility & cockiness. Hopkins does give me the "Brando-Jor-el" vibe, but he was fine. I will say this though, Hiddleston's Loki is easily the most interesting & dynamic villain since TDK's Joker.

If he is to be one of the main antagonist's for the Avengers (and given comic history, I think we can all assume what he'll do) Tom is a worthy challenge. Loki was the best part of the movie for me, the range of emotions he shows without even speaking at times is incredible. He went from the villainous treachery of a supervillain to the meek, attention seeking stepchild yearning for his father's acceptance all in the same scene. A colossal performance IMO.

That being said, all the problems I thought I might have with this movie turned out to be the things I disliked the most. Yes, some of the comedy was funny, but a lot of it will wear on me upon further viewings, it already started to get old the first time through. Worse than that, the whole earth portion of the film was just too quick, too under utilized, and just wasn't up to par to the Asgard portion of the movie.

I always felt that the majority of it should take place on Asgard, with Thor being banished and coming down at the end, but I understand the need for his arc to happen before the Avengers. Speaking of Asgard though, for such a beautiful rendering, it seemed extremely desolate. Where was everyone during all of this lol? Outside of the beginning ceremony & the ending, I didn't see hardly anyone beyond the principal cast. Asgard didn't seem like a living, breathing place strictly because of this, but these scenes were still the strongest of the film to me.

Lastly, I just felt he learned his lesson WAY to quickly, essentially in a day or two. Portman, as gorgeous as she is, played her part well obviously, but I don't think their "romance" had half the time it needed for it to be believable, or for it to be part of the catalyst for Thor to change his attitude. Actually, I don't think it was strong enough for him to risk his life either, I know Sif & the Warrior's three were also there, but they're warriors, willing to die in battle, Sif even alludes to this blatantly, so for him to all of a sudden have the light bulb go off that his personal sacrifice would be enough to redeem himself just seemed, quick & convenient.

All in all, this was a great way to kick off the summer, and eventually, Thor will have a nice tidy spot on my shelf. Kudos to all involved for making something potentially easy to screw up into a successful franchise.

 

[Raiden]

Lastly, I just felt he learned his lesson WAY to quickly, essentially in a day or two. Portman, as gorgeous as she is, played her part well obviously, but I don't think their "romance" had half the time it needed for it to be believable, or for it to be part of the catalyst for Thor to change his attitude. Actually, I don't think it was strong enough for him to risk his life either, I know Sif & the Warrior's three were also there, but they're warriors, willing to die in battle, Sif even alludes to this blatantly, so for him to all of a sudden have the light bulb go off that his personal sacrifice would be enough to redeem himself just seemed, quick & convenient.

I think it is reasonable that he learnt his lesson quickly, because he just had two very major, reality-shattering events that happened to him. First it was his discovery that he could not lift Mjolnir, therefore confirming to him that he was in fact unworthy to be the wielder of the hammer. Secondly was his brother Loki's lie to him that his actions caused the death of his father Odin, and his mother Frigga has refused to let him return to Asgard. I think these things made him introspective and finally accepted the truth about himself. However, this realization wasn't enough to make Mjolnir accept him; it was his sacrifice to save others and did it.

As for his plan to sacrifice himself, Thor knew that the Destroyer wanted him dead, and so if he offered himself the others will be spared. I don't see anything wrong with this at all.

 

[Doc Samson]

I think it is reasonable that he learnt his lesson quickly, because he just had two very major, reality-shattering events that happened to him. First it was his discovery that he could not lift Mjolnir, therefore confirming to him that he was in fact unworthy to be the wielder of the hammer. Secondly was his brother Loki's lie to him that his actions caused the death of his father Odin, and his mother Frigga has refused to let him return to Asgard. I think these things made him introspective and finally accepted the truth about himself. However, this realization wasn't enough to make Mjolnir accept him; it was his sacrifice to save others and did it.

I'd buy that if he didn't know Loki lied almost immediately. Seemingly within a couple days time Sif & the Warriors Three show up and tell him the truth. It's not like he had to go a long time with this type of trauma on his mind.

It just seemed too quick of an arc for someone so reckless. I mean, Thor is beyond cocky, humility for someone like that isn't something I think they would readily identify with in such a short period.

 

[Raiden]

I'd buy that if he didn't know Loki lied almost immediately. Seemingly within a couple days time Sif & the Warriors Three show up and tell him the truth. It's not like he had to go a long time with this type of trauma on his mind.

It just seemed too quick of an arc for someone so reckless. I mean, Thor is beyond cocky, humility for someone like that isn't something I think they would readily identify with in such a short period.

Thor was reckless, yes, but it's not like he decided to attack the realm of the frost giants without any good reason. 3 frost giants just invaded Asgard despite the truce they have in place after the great war, and Thor was not entirely unreasonable to want to exact some retribution against them. Plus, Loki did his part to fan the flames by being passive-aggressive. Odin punished him for potentially starting a new war, but Thor was worthy enough to be named the heir before the incident happened. Odin was right to punish his son, but Thor wasn't undeserving of a chance for redemption, either. Now if he just decided to attack & kill frost giants without being provoked, then you have a point.

 

[marcvader]

You guys are also applying human sensibilities to an Asgardian god and probably shouldn't be.

 

[Jager X]

I'd buy that if he didn't know Loki lied almost immediately. Seemingly within a couple days time Sif & the Warriors Three show up and tell him the truth. It's not like he had to go a long time with this type of trauma on his mind.

It just seemed too quick of an arc for someone so reckless. I mean, Thor is beyond cocky, humility for someone like that isn't something I think they would readily identify with in such a short period.

Thor's arc was fine. He was cocky and reckless, but he was not a sociopath. Asgardians exhibited the same affections for each other as their human counterparts. Thor loved his father, his mother, and his home. He seemingly lost all three in a blink of an eye. It does not matter how short of a period he was decieved, he was completely broken by the notion that his actions caused the destruction of everything he held dear. You acknowledge that Thor carried this guilt for days. Is it really that hard to believe that a person can change themselves in that matter of time?

 

[Doc Samson]

Thor's arc was fine. He was cocky and reckless, but he was not a sociopath. Asgardians exhibited the same affections for each other as their human counterparts. Thor loved his father, his mother, and his home. He seemingly lost all three in a blink of an eye. It does not matter how short of a period he was decieved, he was completely broken by the notion that his actions caused the destruction of everything he held dear. You acknowledge that Thor carried this guilt for days. Is it really that hard to believe that a person can change themselves in that matter of time?

For me, yeah it is. Does that make the movie a disaster? No, I said I would give it a 7/10. But did I believe in his arc or the romance with Jane, no, not at all.

I know going into it that this is only a movie, not a comic series that can go on forever, but at the same time, the decision to not include Donald Blake was a double edged sword for me.

Being sent to Earth, not only stripped of your power but of your body and memories of even being a god in the first place, is a much more powerful device for the story. Not only that, but your occupation is that of helping other people, while being crippled yourself. Now that would teach anyone humility in record time!

On the other hand, Thor arrives still looking like a magazine model, and still acting like a jerk. He decides to find his hammer, and when he can't lift it, becomes distraught enough to be captured by agents he walked through only seconds earlier? Then his brother lies to him, which admittedly would crush anyone's spirit, but then he turns around and finds out the truth in like 48 hrs? During which time, he slams a few beers back, fills Jane in on where he's from, and sleeps by campfire.

Sorry, I just didn't feel it. After they get him out of the SHIELD facility, he even seemed content with his fate, it's not like he was brooding or visibly feeling anguish. Until the Warriors show up, he's helping prepare dinner lol, c'mon man!

It was rushed, plain and simple, just like I felt the ending was. Being that this is the ADD generation though, I'm sure any extra exposition would have been met with groans anyway, so I'm fine with it, but did it hurt the pace somewhat, sure. Still, it was a great movie, and I understand why the decisions were made.

 

[Quasimod0]

am i the only one who liked the earth parts better than the asgard parts?..

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I still believed it after my second time. The first time it seemed jarring, but with my second viewing, I realised there was a lot more subtle development between Thor and Jane that went over my head with my first, 3D viewing on opening night.

Also, people keep talking about how Thor couldn't change his whole character so quickly.

He doesn't. You can't entirely change as a person in that amount of time, and Thor doesn't do that in this film, nor does he need to. This is purely a lesson in humility and prioritising what is important in life, peace or war, as well as treatment of others. Regarding what he goes through, and the kindness he experiences from both Jane and Selvig, it is entirely unbelievable that he can see those issues in a new light.

You see from his personality post Destroyer scene, he is still brash and very Thorlike, but his development is an ongoing process, as Thor himself admits to Odin at the end. His continual involvement with Humans will no doubt continue his story arch towards King Thor.

 

[WildcatNC]

You guys are also applying human sensibilities to an Asgardian god and probably shouldn't be.

I've said this several times but I think people are misunderstanding the "Viking" mentality/personality they are giving to Thor. Its a very fatalistic point of view. You could die at any moment so love, laugh, rage, fight, all with great fervor and all of yourself. I thought it came off well and not over the top at all. Hemsworth did great with it.

Its why I think Thor was infatuated so quickly, why he learned humility so quickly. He leaps before he looks, whether its love or a revelation. He doesn't mull on things and require a lot of therapy like some. He doesn't half-*** anything.

At least thats how I see it, and it makes perfect sense in that context to me.

Of course he is learning and growing more mature by the end, but he still is who he is.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Exactly. He makes very clear how he feels about Jane and how he understands her feelings for him when he bows to them all and kisses her hand, near the middle of the film.

 

[Rock Sexton]

OK I saw it for the 4th time (in the theaters that is ) .... but this time in 3D and I must say, it's a much better viewing that way. Colors pop better, everything is brighter, and aspects of Asgard are much more magnificent. 2D just doesn't capture things like the Rainbow Bridge and the awesome looking skylines where you can see the galaxy .....

 

[BigThor]

From everything I've heard it sounds like Thor's 3D was pretty decent, not great but not bad either.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Asgard looked amazing in 3D, but as a first viewing, you lose A LOT of the story elements and drama. It just washes over you, and subtracts from the subtext.