The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - Part 12

[Willie Lumpkin]

Since the buyer is undisclosed, it's not crazy to think Disney could have snapped up those shares.

 

[First Avenger]

I think we've never been so close guys.

 

[wobbly]

Since the buyer is undisclosed, it's not crazy to think Disney could have snapped up those shares.

What I was wondering too.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I think we've never been so close guys.

Soooo close

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Yeah, I’ve never been much of an X-men fan, and with the situation up until a few days ago, I never thought much about a Marvel X-Men.

But the idea that we coukd actually see the real X-Men on screen - big and bold and exciting and nothing like the watered down crap we’ve gotten from Fox - has me excited about the possibilities.

Same. An X-men movie with a real Cyclops, Storm, Jean Grey/Phoenix, Rogue, Colossus actually done right? That could kick the entire CB genre into an even higher gear from where it already is. I love the idea of a X-men team being done like Marvel did with Guardians of the Galaxy where every member gets to shine. Marvel even made a raccoon and a tree into popular characters.

Fox was the least successful studio of the big four making CBMs even though they had probably the most popular CB property post 1980. That property going to a studio who knows how to use it could be epic.

If this goes through, Marvel could always use Fox as their distributor for their R films. If they want to do an R-Rated Punisher or Ghost Rider etc. they could distribute those films through Fox and that would be the signal "This film may not be as kid-friendly as traditional Marvel films."

Great point. It's not like Fox was making R rated X-men movies so Marvel do those without any sweat. Anything like the Deadpool or Logan movies could just be under the Fox banner.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I just want a report to come out that talks have resumed

 

[Darth_Spock]

Since the buyer is undisclosed, it's not crazy to think Disney could have snapped up those shares.

What I was wondering too.

Soooo close

Man, it would feel so good to be able to say things like "Disney bought those shares fair and square!" and "If it weren't for Disney, Murdoch and his sons wouldn't have as many voting rights, so revert back to Marvel!" t:

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Man, it would feel so good to be able to say things like "Disney bought those shares fair and square!" and "If it weren't for Disney, Murdoch and his sons wouldn't have as many voting rights, so revert back to Marvel!" t:

If that's legal....go for it!!!

 

[Krystal]

Let's not get too excited yet.

 

[Venomfan]

Has anyone seen a stretching effect that doesn't look bad in a movie? The other FF movies and now the Flash have both done it, and it never looks good to me. It's very clear when a stiff prop is being used, and the CG looks strange. I'm not sure what it is, but I think it's the only super hero special effect that doesn't look good on film.

 

[Krystal]

I am so excited!!!!

 

[Krystal]

Hmmm...
I seem to be exhibiting a "do as I say, not as I do" sentiment.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Hmmm...
I seem to be exhibiting a "do as I say, not as I do" sentiment.

I'm not really excited yet. If it happens, I'll explode, but for now, I'm just waiting and hoping.

 

[Dark Raven]

Has anyone seen a stretching effect that doesn't look bad in a movie? The other FF movies and now the Flash have both done it, and it never looks good to me. It's very clear when a stiff prop is being used, and the CG looks strange. I'm not sure what it is, but I think it's the only super hero special effect that doesn't look good on film.

Well the Flash was a TV budget and it was mostly bare skin as opposed to clothed skin. Of course, we don't know how much budget would be allotted to a Fantastic Four movie, and even when Reed wore his costume in the previous FF movies, it wasn't always convincing. And Spider-Man Homecoming's CGI was actually inferior to the previous Spider-Man movies.

But hopefully the FF movie would be so great that even if it isn't completely believable, we could overlook any flaws. We need a good actor for Reed though.

I'm not really excited yet. If it happens, I'll explode, but for now, I'm just waiting and hoping.

That sounds like the dialogue for a Viagra commercial.

 

[Web-Head]

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/08/disney-fox-deal-marvel-x-men-fantastic-four-netflix/

 

[Dark Raven]

Was it 2015 when there was all the talk of the Sony-Marvel negotiations for Spider-Man? If so, this feels very similar. It was even around the same time, although about a month later for Spider-Man around Christmas.

I hope we can be talking about the FF in the MCU early next year, just like we were with Spider-Man, which seemed like an impossibility before.

 

[Dasher10]

What if this means that the Netflix shows all get canceled?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/streaming-dreams-drove-disneys-interest-in-fox-assets-1510137002

And that all the merch for these characters goes away and the comics get canceled like what happened to the Fantastic Four?

 

[Tymminator]

What if this means that the Netflix shows all get canceled?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/streaming-dreams-drove-disneys-interest-in-fox-assets-1510137002

And that all the merch for these characters goes away and the comics get canceled like what happened to the Fantastic Four?

They will find a home. Disney has been working on its own streaming service, so the reason they may leave Netflix doesn't mean they are going to go nowhere at all.

 

[TheVileOne]

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/08/disney-fox-deal-marvel-x-men-fantastic-four-netflix/

It's not exactly a major, groundbreaking observation. IMHO it's hardly scintillating commentary for the WSJ to make such a statement. A young person could probably make the same observation as well. Considering how important Marvel Entertainment has been for Disney, and considering that X-Men is still a strong entertainment brand, and Fantastic Four has that potential as well. Yeah, you would think Disney has a vested interest in controlling all the film and TV rights for the properties they technically already own.

 

[Dasher10]

They will find a home. Disney has been working on its own streaming service, so the reason they may leave Netflix doesn't mean they are going to go nowhere at all.

I mean what if Netflix has a clause which prevents Marvel from relocating the shows elsewhere? If Disney can't migrate the shows, then Disney can put a freeze on anything related to the characters. Fans won't be happy but I can see this happening over DVD rights and access to earlier seasons.

And this begs the question of why I should watch Punisher next week if it won't be renewed?

 

[Big Bang]

Since the buyer is undisclosed, it's not crazy to think Disney could have snapped up those shares.

I think any other publicly traded company has to be publicly forthcoming with any purchases especially in the case of purchasing voter shares of a rival.

Unfortunately likely not Disney. Though I'd be happy to be wrong.

EDIT: Even if the buyer is not technically "allied" with Murdoch, it could be an investor looking to get in on the Fox-Disney action. Not an uncommon tactic given how positive the market responded to the talks.

 

[Tymminator]

I mean what if Netflix has a clause which prevents Marvel from relocating the shows elsewhere? If Disney can't migrate the shows, then Disney can put a freeze on anything related to the characters. Fans won't be happy but I can see this happening over DVD rights and access to earlier seasons.

Marvel made deals with Fox and Sony originally from a position of weakness.

Disney/Marvel Studious made their deals with Netflix from a position of strength.

I don't see Disney giving anyone anything that would lock them out for any significant time that they know they can make money from.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think any other publicly traded company has to be publicly forthcoming with any purchases especially in the case of purchasing voter shares of a rival.

Within what time frame? I'm sure you're right, there would have to be disclosure at some point, but if the transaction just occurred, they probably have some time before they need to make that disclosure.

 

[Big Bang]

Marvel made deals with Fox and Sony originally from a position of weakness.

Disney/Marvel Studious made their deals with Netflix from a position of strength.

I don't see Disney giving anyone anything that would lock them out for any significant time that they know they can make money from.

Besides, money talks. I could see Netflix taking a payout from Disney to use to buy more original content.

 

[Big Bang]

Within what time frame? I'm sure you're right, there would have to be disclosure at some point, but if the transaction just occurred, they probably have some time before they need to make that disclosure.

Sure, that's a possibility. However given how red hot the news has been I think Disney would be issuing a press release very quickly. Then sitting back and watching the stocks skyrocket again.