The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - Part 14

[WeaponXCII]

I don't know if this necessarily means anything, but over at CNBC, the stocks graphs for Disney and Fox reached their highest point in a while today. Especially Fox....

 

[DyfeddRex]

depends.

Institutional buys or individuals? Institutional (hedgefunds/investor groups) might have heard some leaks that the deal will be very soon. Individuals, you have to look at who. If it is folks close to Murdochs/Iger then....


Skyra-katta-skyrra-katta-BOOM.

Lightning is striking.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Deal by Friday or I boycott going outside.

Lol. Merger Monday?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I don't know if this necessarily means anything, but over at CNBC, the stocks graphs for Disney and Fox reached their highest point in a while today. Especially Fox....

I think we're probably more plugged into this than most investors.

 

[DyfeddRex]

Deal by Friday or I boycott going outside.

Lucky you. I work outside, and can't take time off until after the retail nightmare that is Christmas is done, unless I can prove I'm dead, nearly dead, or highly contagious.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I feel like the magic word in this situation is "overkill." All of us here just wanted the FF back with the MCU so we could get good FF movies. A lot of us also wanted the X-Men back over there too. And we'll probably get both of those with this deal. But we're talking about an entire giant movie studio being bought and absorbed by another giant movie studio. The issue of "who owns the movie rights for which super-heroes" seems like small potatoes.

Just depends on what movies you like. It's just movies either way. CBMs are the "big potatoes" to me. The other movies Fox makes are good too, but not on the same tier of importance.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Just depends on what movies you like. It's just movies either way. CBMs are the "big potatoes" to me. The other movies Fox makes are good too, but not on the same tier of importance.

It's kinda funny how people are so concerned that FOX can't make movies anymore lol.


The sun will still rise tomorrow

 

[GoblinScrier]

Should we be worried:

https://screenrant.com/disney-fox-fantastic-4-rights-constantin/

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Should we be worried:

https://screenrant.com/disney-fox-fantastic-4-rights-constantin/

No. Complete internet bull s***.

 

[Spider-Fan]

No. Complete internet bull s***.

That would suck, but even if that is the case, then a film would need to enter production eventually to keep them. Otherwise they would eventually lapse. Just would take longer to happen if that is the case. Hopefully it is not.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

That would suck, but even if that is the case, then a film would need to enter production eventually to keep them. Otherwise they would eventually lapse. Just would take longer to happen if that is the case. Hopefully it is not.

There are 10,000 holes we can punch in Screen-Rant's theory, but let's keep it real simple:

Their basic premise is that Fox has the distribution rights but Constantin has the production rights. Oh really? So it wasn't Fox, but Constantin that lost all that money in 2015? Hmmmm, so why did Rupert Murdoch have to explain to shareholders that Fant4stic was one of the big problems that cost them so much money in 2015?

The premise is ridiculous on so many levels that I don't know why people still believe there's anything to it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

There are 10,000 holes we can punch in Screen-Rant's theory, but let's keep it real simple:

Their basic premise is that Fox has the distribution rights but Constantin has the production rights. Oh really? So it wasn't Fox, but Constantin that lost all that money in 2015? Hmmmm, so why did Rupert Murdoch have to explain to shareholders that Fant4stic was one of the big problems that cost them so much money in 2015?

Them premise is ridiculous on so many levels that I don't know why people still believe there's anything to it.

Also, remember Marvel attempted to use Daredevil's rights extension as a means to get Silver Surfer and Galactus from FOX years ago. They didn't contact Constantine about it.

 

[InCali]

No. Complete internet bull s***.

I read this earlier today when I was searching on new info (do that religiously every morning) and thought it sounded like a big, stinky load. Glad to hear I was right.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Also, remember Marvel attempted to use Daredevil's rights extension as a means to get Silver Surfer and Galactus from FOX years ago. They didn't contact Constantine about it.

Yep. One of 100 things we could list if we wanted to waste the time. But there's no reason to create that list, because here's the list of credible reasons to believe Constantin still controls the license:

1. Nothing

 

[Kanon]

I feel like the magic word in this situation is "overkill." All of us here just wanted the FF back with the MCU so we could get good FF movies. A lot of us also wanted the X-Men back over there too. And we'll probably get both of those with this deal. But we're talking about an entire giant movie studio being bought and absorbed by another giant movie studio. The issue of "who owns the movie rights for which super-heroes" seems like small potatoes.

It is, but are we sure that is what is going to happen? Is 20th Century Fox going to be absorved into Walt Disney Studios, or is just going to be part of the Walt Disney company? If it is the latter, then the studio still exists, it's just the dynamics that change, and negotiations will be smooth as hell...

 

[Kanon]

Should we be worried:

https://screenrant.com/disney-fox-fantastic-4-rights-constantin/

Even if it were true, worst case scenario, Disney now has distribution rights, Constantin can't do anything unless they go to Disney, the rights revert to Marvel.

 

[Big Bang]

It is, but are we sure that is what is going to happen? Is 20th Century Fox going to be absorved into Walt Disney Studios, or is just going to be part of the Walt Disney company? If it is the latter, then the studio still exists, it's just the dynamics that change, and negotiations will be smooth as hell...

20th Century Fox (and other divisions) become a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company. Separate from Disney's current production studios.

 

[Big Bang]

Even if it were true, worst case scenario, Disney now has distribution rights, Constantin can't do anything unless they go to Disney, the rights revert to Marvel.

Yep, it is all but over for Constantin if they have any rights. They'd be smart to offer to sell if they do at that point.

 

[Web-Head]

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...urdoch-disney-stake?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Big Bang]

Their basic premise is that Fox has the distribution rights but Constantin has the production rights. Oh really? So it wasn't Fox, but Constantin that lost all that money in 2015? Hmmmm, so why did Rupert Murdoch have to explain to shareholders that Fant4stic was one of the big problems that cost them so much money in 2015?

I still cannot help but smile when thinking about how Fantastic Four might have been the main catalyst that lead to this decision. The volatility of entertainment and the impact of Fanf4stic alone leading to a multi-billion dollar decision to completely exit the entertainment industry because of a film that for all intents and purposes shouldn't have been made was made anyway.

Maybe it was an act of providence?

 

[Chance Jackson]

I still cannot help but smile when thinking about how Fantastic Four might have been the main catalyst that lead to this decision. The volatility of entertainment and the impact of Fanf4stic alone leading to a multi-billion dollar decision to completely exit the entertainment industry because of a film that for all intents and purposes shouldn't have been made was made anyway.

Maybe it was an act of providence?

The definition of Schadenfreude

 

[Chance Jackson]

You described exactly how the free market acts as a check and balance. If Disney doesn't provide something the public wants, some other studio will. And that other studio will reap the benefits. That's how these things always work.

And there is one thing Hollywood lives by....making movies the public wants to see. That's pretty much all they do.

But home video games was a "new" industry, it's almost impossible to break into now and even more so for a holywood studio that can handle several types of projects big and small in this era of consolidation

 

[SyntaxError]

It is, but are we sure that is what is going to happen? Is 20th Century Fox going to be absorved into Walt Disney Studios, or is just going to be part of the Walt Disney company? If it is the latter, then the studio still exists, it's just the dynamics that change, and negotiations will be smooth as hell...

initially independent but then gradually divided up. Rearrangement of different divisions to existing parts of Disney.

 

[Iceman]

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It is, but are we sure that is what is going to happen? Is 20th Century Fox going to be absorved into Walt Disney Studios, or is just going to be part of the Walt Disney company? If it is the latter, then the studio still exists, it's just the dynamics that change, and negotiations will be smooth as hell...

I'd prefer the latter.

 

[Smurphftw]

I still cannot help but smile when thinking about how Fantastic Four might have been the main catalyst that lead to this decision. The volatility of entertainment and the impact of Fanf4stic alone leading to a multi-billion dollar decision to completely exit the entertainment industry because of a film that for all intents and purposes shouldn't have been made was made anyway.

Maybe it was an act of providence?

Or one hell of a silver lining/blessing in disguise.