The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Detective Conan]

I feel confident that work on the X-men will begin as soon as the deal is made official. They got Spider-man in the MCU in under two years.

That was different though since Feige had to abide by the terms Sony laid out for them since he still doesn't own the rights to Spider-Man while Feige will gain full control of the FF and X-Men which will allow him to take as much time as he wants on those properties.

 

[Iceman]

It's going to feel a lot more 'real' than it did in December. Back then, there were still so many things that could have gone wrong, and it still seemed so far off.

The actual closing will still be a big deal, but tomorrow should ensure the closing will happen.

Yeah, this feels much more progressed and definitive now.

 

[Smurphftw]

I did definitely consider that one, but thought that Michelle Pfieffer is in the MCU while Anne Hathaway isn't.

With that logic, yesterday you should have posted "2 Days In The Valley" with James Spader

 

[Marvel united]

 

[Dark Raven]

With that logic, yesterday you should have posted "2 Days In The Valley" with James Spader

No. With that logic I posted "2 Days" with Paul Rudd!

 

[Abudefduf]

Deadpool and his supporting characters live in a world where mutants are everywhere and their existence has been common knowledge for... well, since forever, I think.

They simply wouldn't fit in the MCU.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

It's almost clobberin' time.

 

[Dark Raven]

Deadpool and his supporting characters live in a world where mutants are everywhere and their existence has been common knowledge for... well, since forever, I think.

They simply wouldn't fit in the MCU.

I think the way for Deadpool to get around any continuity errors is to actually point them out and make a joke about it. He could easily ask why no-one seems to know about mutants in the MCU, but as far as he is concerned, everyone knows about them.

Then he can reference the Disney-Fox takeover.

Deadpool is unlikely to crossover into the main films anyway. If there is any crossover, it will be one way, with heroes showing up in his films, not vice versa.

 

[Endeavor]

I think the way for Deadpool to get around any continuity errors is to actually point them out and make a joke about it. He could easily ask why no-one seems to know about mutants in the MCU, but as far as he is concerned, everyone knows about them.

Then he can reference the Disney-Fox takeover.

Exactly. Simple solution that works perfectly with the character and what everybody knows about him.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

They simply wouldn't fit in the MCU.

Who cares... The fans will love it

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Reynolds has pretty much made the character his own

They’d be crazy to not include his Deadpool in the MCU. And they’ll catch even more flak if they reboot the character bringing him into the MCU. It’s gotta be Reynolds.

 

[Flint Marko]

Deadpool and his supporting characters live in a world where mutants are everywhere and their existence has been common knowledge for... well, since forever, I think.

They simply wouldn't fit in the MCU.

Deadpool could make a great joke about it. All the more reason to do it.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Of all the Fox properties, Deadpool is the easiest to fit into the MCU. He cracks a joke about Disney, Nick Fury raises an eyebrow, a joke montage about his previous attempts to be seen in the MCU and problem solved.

He can PG13 for team ups and then do his R rated stuff for solos. Shame they regulated Punisher to Netflix, he and Deadpool would've been a good team up.

Maybe they can pair him and Blade.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I for one would be fine if Marvel decides they just want to act like mutants have been around and they just didn't mention them in the context of the stories they were telling.

We all know the real situation, and I'm not going to insist Marvel jumps through a bunch of hoops just to explain why mutants haven't been mentioned (when the obvious reason is they were legally prohibited from doing so). Whatever works for them going forward is fine with me.

If they want to make a big splash by introducing them, fine, if they want to say they've always been there, fine.

 

[Detective Conan]

Jeremy Conrad from Furious Fanboys(who've I cited here a few times) wrote this kind of snobby article in which he makes the ill-researched argument that Disney couldn't possibly have any influence on Dark Phoenix because "the deal won't close by until summer 2019."

So the guy is using the already flawed closing date that was nothing more than a rough estimation prior to the DOJ approving the deal much quicker than anyone anticipated as the basis for his entire argument. What a way to undercut your credibility there

Have a laugh at his poor article here.

https://mcucosmic.com/2018/07/26/no-dark-phoenix-and-new-mutants-were-not-secretly-cancelled/


He also still believes that Constastin still owns the FF rights.

 

[Marvel united]

I for one would be fine if Marvel decides they just want to act like mutants have been around and they just didn't mention them in the context of the stories they were telling.

We all know the real situation, and I'm not going to insist Marvel jumps through a bunch of hoops just to explain why mutants haven't been mentioned (when the obvious reason is they were legally prohibited from doing so). Whatever works for them going forward is fine with me.

If they want to make a big splash by introducing them, fine, if they want to say they've always been there, fine.

As long as they don't act like X-Men, Sentinels, Genosha etc have been around since forever. Mutants can have existed for hundreds of years only in small numbers but trying to say millions of mutants have been around all this time without anyone noticing would seriously be pushing suspension of disbelief

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Jeremy Conrad from Furious Fanboys(who've I cited here a few times) wrote this kind of snobby article in which he makes the ill-researched argument that Disney couldn't possibly have any influence on Dark Phoenix because "the deal won't close by until summer 2019."

So the guy is using the already flawed closing date that was nothing more than a rough estimation prior to the DOJ approving the deal much quicker than anyone anticipated. What a way to undercut your credibility there.

Have a laugh at his poor article here.

https://mcucosmic.com/2018/07/26/no-dark-phoenix-and-new-mutants-were-not-secretly-cancelled/


He also still believes that Constastin still owns the FF rights.

This reminds me of a lot of the clueless articles we saw throughout the production of Fant4stic. We were living it day-in, day-out and we were following every piece of information and assembling all the puzzle pieces.

Then someone would come along, do a couple google searches and then write an article about this great, creative take on the Fantastic Four that seemed really promising.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

As long as they don't act like X-Men, Sentinels, Genosha etc have been around since forever. Mutants can have existed for hundreds of years only in small numbers but trying to say millions of mutants have been around all this time without anyone noticing would seriously be pushing suspension of disbelief

That's probably the best way to handle it. They're not new, but they haven't been widely known.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Well I agree with him that dark Phoenix will be receiving a theatrical release

But the part about the deal not being completely finalized until next summer? With the DOJ’s approval as well as tomorrow’s events, just how far off could it possibly be? What could possibly take a year for this thing to finalize?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Well I agree with him that dark Phoenix will be receiving a theatrical release

My best guess on what actually happens is they will release it, but with bare-bones marketing.

It will come and go quickly, they'll make a few bucks on it (by not spending much on top of what Fox already has), and that will be it.

 

[Smurphftw]

No. With that logic I posted "2 Days" with Paul Rudd!

I don't have a clever retort for this, so I'll just say .....



Pfft

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think a lot of the people who write these online articles are trying to make sense of why there has been so little marketing for Dark Phoenix, and they're trying to tie it to the Disney deal.

But I think the reality is, even without Disney, Fox just wanted to milk one last bit of box office out of the cast and characters before starting over, so they turned it over to Simon Kinberg who they knew could put something mediocre together easily and that was their strategy.

If Disney hadn't bought them, I think they would have started over with X-Force and Gambit and X-23 and rebooted the main body of X-men at some point down the road.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

My best guess on what actually happens is they will release it, but with bare-bones marketing.

It will come and go quickly, they'll make a few bucks on it (by not spending much on top of what Fox already has), and that will be it.

X-MEN: Apocalypse made what 60million domestic opening weekend? This stuff is killing X-MEN's good name. Dark Phoenix could really damage the X-MEN. A X-MEN team movie shouldn't just come and go
Just scrap it

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

But my thing is if the status of Dark Phoenix/New Mutants wasn't in jeopardy, wouldn't one think the casts of these movies go on social media to defend their projects? They've all been pretty vocal before.

Sansa Stark said she doesn't even know when she's supposed to report for reshoots and she's the titular Dark Phoenix. And then apparently Josh Boone deleted his social media accounts.

I don't know.

 

[Smurphftw]

Jeremy Conrad from Furious Fanboys(who've I cited here a few times) wrote this kind of snobby article in which he makes the ill-researched argument that Disney couldn't possibly have any influence on Dark Phoenix because "the deal won't close by until summer 2019."

So the guy is using the already flawed closing date that was nothing more than a rough estimation prior to the DOJ approving the deal much quicker than anyone anticipated as the basis for his entire argument. What a way to undercut your credibility there

Have a laugh at his poor article here.

https://mcucosmic.com/2018/07/26/no-dark-phoenix-and-new-mutants-were-not-secretly-cancelled/

He also still believes that Constantin still owns the FF rights

*Bashes head against wall repeatedly*