The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Zarex]

I'm thinking both Sony and Disney will want to finish the "Home" trilogy, so there will be a two film extension - one Spidey appearance for each company - and then MCU Spidey will go on hiatus.

My hope is that Sony's attempt to reboot the character into the Venomverse fails and after a decade off Holland triumphantly rejoins the MCU under a new deal as the adult Peter mentoring Miles.

 

[Marvel united]

I'm thinking both Sony and Disney will want to finish the "Home" trilogy, so there will be a two film extension - one Spidey appearance for each company - and then MCU Spidey will go on hiatus.

My hope is that Sony's attempt to reboot the character into the Venomverse fails and after a decade off Holland triumphantly rejoins the MCU under a new deal as the adult Peter mentoring Miles.

A decade off? That's like 2030-something

 

[Nardz937]

If it wasn't for the Fantastic Four officially being coming in, I probably wouldn't care if Spidey went back to Sony. But I want to see that F4 interaction.

 

[sleekstereo]

This part of Kevin Feige's interview with Screen Rant will interest you:

I know that the X-Men are finally coming back. And this is not an X-Men question, but I'm a big Scott Summers fan, so he's my favorite character of all time. So just please make them cool.

Kevin Feige: Was he not being cool before?

I feel that like he always gets the short end of the stick, Scott Summers. But I'm hoping that we get Starjammers movie before they even get introduced to the X-Men. I love Corsair. Have you begun mapping out Captain Marvel's larger story arc or have you been brainstorming on the second part of Captain Marvel?

Kevin Feige: Yes. Yeah. I mean we always brainstorm. The making of a first film is in some ways a brainstorm on the future and on what can be. So what it will be again not clear. But what it could be is pretty amazing.
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The interviewer just dropped that in out of nowhere, in the middle of discussing Captain Marvel. Feige's response (Was he not being cool before?) was such shade. Cyclops fans ought to keep making themselves heard like this.

Let us not forget that Feige was a producer on those first X-Men films. He was highly involved, so I'm not willing to cut him any slack.

 

[Detective Conan]

Let us not forget that Feige was a producer on those first X-Men films. He was highly involved, so I'm not willing to cut him any slack.

Feige was a associate producer on the original X-Men so very low on the totem pole when it comes to influence on those films. Lauren Schuler Donner was his mentor and showed him the ropes, and that was his first big gig. It was quite rare that Singer would ever take any of his suggestions. He has said this several interviews.

 

[sleekstereo]

Feige was a associate producer on the original X-Men so very low on the totem pole when it comes to influence on those films. Lauren Schuler Donner was his mentor and showed him the ropes, and that was his first big gig. It was quite rare that Singer would ever take any of his suggestions. He has said this several interviews.

So low on the totem pole that he was responsible for Hugh Jackman's look in the film? Donner gave Feige pull while she collected the checks.

 

[Detective Conan]

So low on the totem pole that he was responsible for Hugh Jackman's look in the film? Donner gave Feige pull while she collected the checks.

It was one of his suggestions they listened to but for the vast majority of the significant creative decisions were between Singer and Lauren Schuler Donner. Feige has said repeatedly he had little input on those movies. Every once in a while they would listen but overall those first films were the Donner and Singer show. Was it Feige’s idea to put them in black leather instead of yellow spandex? No. Feige was known as the comic book nerd who would always vouch for them to adhere as close to aspects of the comic work as possible even if there were was fear of those elements appearing too outlandish.

Feige was still a rookie back then who was given first big break by Lauren Schuler Donner. Feige would not acquire significant involvement with a film based on a Marvel comics property until Iron Man, and the rest is history.

 

[Marvel united]

It's crazy now that Feige will have full creative control over the X-Men franchise in the future

 

[Detective Conan]

It's crazy now that Feige will have full creative control over the X-Men franchise in the future

It all comes full circle.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Marvel united]

It all comes full circle.

And now Donner may be an associate producer on his X-Films.

Perfect balanced... As all things should be.

 

[Darkprime]

Still boggles my mind how Fox couldn't put together a coherent cinematic universe. They had X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool. If done right they could have competed with the MCU.

 

[Iceman]

I'm thinking both Sony and Disney will want to finish the "Home" trilogy, so there will be a two film extension - one Spidey appearance for each company - and then MCU Spidey will go on hiatus.

My hope is that Sony's attempt to reboot the character into the Venomverse fails and after a decade off Holland triumphantly rejoins the MCU under a new deal as the adult Peter mentoring Miles.

I would love to see Parker and Miles together in a film.

 

[Marvel united]

Still boggles my mind how Fox couldn't put together a coherent cinematic universe. They had X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool.

I heard they couldn't legally combine the F4/X-Men

 

[Darkprime]

I heard they couldn't legally combine the F4/X-Men

Thats interesting cause apparently they had plans to but it never materialised. I always assumed it was because Fantastic Four 2015 flopped.

X-Men & Fantastic Four Crossover Talks Confirmed by Bryan Singer

 

[EnDz0n3]

I heard they couldn't legally combine the F4/X-Men

That was never proven. After all, Ioan morphed into Hugh Jackman in F4 1.

 

[ironwez20]

That was never proven. After all, Ioan morphed into Hugh Jackman in F4 1.

Who?

 

[psylockolussus]

Still boggles my mind how Fox couldn't put together a coherent cinematic universe. They had X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool. If done right they could have competed with the MCU.

Well for starters, they assigned Simon Kinberg as the overseer... and they let the directors and writers do their own thing to the point that the films overlap characters and that they no longer care if the films don't feel like came from 1 universe.

 

[Detective Conan]

Who?

Ioan Groffoad, the English actor who played Mr. Fantastic in the Tim Story duology.

And the poster you quoted is referencing this weird deleted scene from the first film in which Reed shapeshifts his face into Wolverine’s in front of Jessica Alba’s Invisible Woman.

 

[daddydivine]

Thats interesting cause apparently they had plans to but it never materialised. I always assumed it was because Fantastic Four 2015 flopped.

X-Men & Fantastic Four Crossover Talks Confirmed by Bryan Singer

That was the Lords work so that Marvel would get back the rights. Jesus took the wheel on that one.

 

[Darkprime]

It will forever bother me that fox had access to some of the greatest marvel villains and failed to take advantage of them. Doom, galactus, surfer, annihilus. So much potential wasted.

 

[First Avenger]

It's incredible to think that in 4-5 years we will get Eternals, F4 and X-Men in the same universe of the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy. Bring it on Feige!

 

[Zyraquis]

Out of all the places where Disney/Fox they were required to get approval from, is Argentina the only one where they have that post-merger notification thing or are their others @Zyraquis?

That’s the one I didn’t even know before. The post deal notification is very uncommon. Out of the remaining that the deal was supposed to file notification, the ones that I’m more familiar with — Japan, Australia and Korea, have pre notification system. Ecuador and Honduras I have no idea; these are the markets (not sure if we have people on the ground there) we don’t care that much for since they rarely have deals big enough that foreigners can make play. Israel is one I have little experience with deals and zero with regulator.

Some questioned whether small obscure markets need to be notified but Ukraine approved it on Feb 27: http://www.amc.gov.ua/amku/doccatalog/document?id=147971&schema=main

 

[Dark Raven]

It will forever bother me that fox had access to some of the greatest marvel villains and failed to take advantage of them. Doom, galactus, surfer, annihilus. So much potential wasted.

And it's just as well, because now Marvel can use them fully without feeling they're repeating things. So it all worked out for the best.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It will forever bother me that fox had access to some of the greatest marvel villains and failed to take advantage of them. Doom, galactus, surfer, annihilus. So much potential wasted.

If they had done it right, it could have been amazing. And not only the big-name characters, but there are a lot of other great characters in there. Thundra could have had her own movie. Agatha Harkness could have had her own movie etc. etc. etc.

I remember looking over that list of 400 plus characters that were included in the FF rights and thinking "They could have done so much with this."