The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Abudefduf]

A Star Is Born has Lady Gaga. I wouldn't underestimate her popularity, especially with women. Plus her movie actually looks good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

But what about Venom? I don't think it's a lock for 60.

Even if Venom bottoms out, I don't see it going under 50 OW. But I am thinking somewhere around 60 is probably what the end take will be given the early projections.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Isn't it still Tuesday? Or is Friday the social media embargo? I thought that was tonight.

There is some ambiguity because I've seen different reports, but most recent reports are Friday. And some Google searching is showing me things like this:

*Edit* I just did some searching specifically on the embargo, and most of what I'm seeing is saying the 2nd, so we'll see if they come out tomorrow.

Venom - Movie Review

 

[Fallen]

A Star Is Born has Lady Gaga. I wouldn't underestimate her popularity, especially with women. Plus her movie actually looks good.

A Star Is Born looks fantastic. I remember that when the movie was announced I said "meh". I'm ready for the soundtrack and the movie.

I'm rooting for Rocket ( ) and Gaga.

 

[Fallen]

Yeah, but with a 95% on RT and a lot of buzz, I can see ASIB over-performing and getting into the 40's or higher, and if the reviews for Venom are as bad as some of us are expecting, it could drop.

It would be unlikely, but that's what makes the possibility all the more fun.

Yep.

If the reviews are really bad, the second weekend will be catastrophic.

 

[Zarex]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

 

[Dark Raven]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

Constant LSD gives rise to these delusions.

 

[Art Freak]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

Simply amazing.

 

[Detective Conan]

Even if Venom bottoms out, I don't see it going under 50 OW. But I am thinking somewhere around 60 is probably what the end take will be given the early projections.

Crazier things have happened, lol.

And all of which you’ve pointed out won’t amount to much if the movie suffers steep dropoffs in its subsequent weekends. So Sony better hope this movie is relatively inexpensive with that kind of Deadpool-like budget because if they did spend their money on this like this was a normal Spider-Man movie than they’re in a world of trouble even if does get a decent domestic opening weekend.

Sorry Spider-Fan, I think I will make a bold prediction: A Star is Born is going to beat Venom at the box office opening weekend. Granted, even though I acknowledge you’re most likely correct there’s still this nagging hunch behind the back of my head that Venom is going to do a lot worse than projected and ‘A Star Is Born’ is going to do a lot better than projected. You’re most likely go to be right and I’m most likely going to be proven wrong.

 

[Marvel united]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

They're at it again

 

[Smurphftw]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

I have no words ......

 

[Spider-Fan]

Crazier things have happened, lol.

And all of which you’ve pointed out won’t amount to much if the movie suffers steep dropoffs in its subsequent weekends. So Sony better hope this movie is relatively inexpensive with that kind of Deadpool-like budget because if they did spend their money on this like this was a normal Spider-Man movie than they’re in a world of trouble even if does get a decent domestic opening weekend.

Sorry Spider-Fan, I think I will make a bold prediction: A Star is Born is going to beat Venom at the box office opening weekend. Granted, even though I acknowledge you’re most likely correct there’s still this nagging hunch behind the back of my head that Venom is going to do a lot worse than projected and ‘A Star Is Born’ is going to do a lot better than projected. You’re most likely go to be right and I’m most likely going to be proven wrong.

We're talking OW, not overall BO. I think it could potentially outgross Venom in lifetime gross. At least here in the US...internationally I would expect Venom to make more. But OW I think Venom is going to make more with ASIB having better legs. But steep drops are possible if Venom is bad.

But again, we'll just have to wait and see. Predictions ultimately don't mean anything. It's all about the actuals.

 

[rebellion]

Disney has been lying to us all these months and LSD is the boss. Makes sense XD

 

[Detective Conan]

This is going to be a crazy week. The first domino to fall for Venom will be the social media embargo that will lift tonight after the premiere. That’s where we’ll get a pretty good idea on how this movie will do critically before the full reviews drop either on Tuesday or Wednesday. After that then it’s time to await the opening weekend numbers on Sunday.

 

[Frankeh]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

 

[WeaponXCII]

For those interested, we have a successor to the "Constantin" theory of ownership over on the Dark Phoenix boards. One Fox Men loyalist is touting the "Laura Shuler Donner" theory, which holds that Ms. Donner ACTUALLY holds the X-Men rights and can sell them off to a third party if she so chooses. And what Disney ACTUALLY bought with their billions and referenced in numerous press releases and SEC filings is the right to negotiate with Ms. Donner. Of course, we should await the lawsuits that are sure to ensue from stockholders who have been deceived since the buyout was announced last December.

 

[Fallen]

Tom Hardy: 'My favourite 40 minutes of Venom were cut from the film'

 

[Detective Conan]

So guys what’s your Rotten Tomatoes score prediction for this? I’m leaning towards it falling between the 45-55% range.

 

[Darkprime]

25-30% if its bad. if its good maybe 60%.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

15 to 20 if it's bad, 40 to 50 if good.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I guessed 25% in the other thread in the Venom forum.

 

[WeaponXCII]

I was hoping that this would come up here (I don't think my answer and rationale would go over too well at the Venom threads! ).

As I've mentioned, it feels and looks undeniably (early) 2000s. So, given that that's really my main thought on it, I asked myself what movies typify (early) 2000s Marvel movies:

Daredevil: 44%
The Punisher: 29%
Ghost Rider: 26%

Averaging these, we come up with my answer: an oh-so-imposing, whopping 33%.

 

[Crimz]

70-80% on Rotten Tomatoes

 

[Darkprime]

I feel bad for Tom Hardy dude has not had a good streak of films.

 

[Dark Raven]

It's going to be up there with Fant4stic at 100%.