The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Marvel united]

Well then why recruit the FoxMen from the 2nd trilogy instead of the first trilogy? Wouldn't it make more commercial sense to have actors like Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, Kelsey Grammer etc instead of the younger ones?

Also, if we're going to open that can of worms, why don't the Avengers recruit the Ben Affleck DD, Jennifer Garner's Elektra, Tobey Maguire's Spidey, Lou Ferrigno's Hulk, and maybe Matt Salinger's Captain America, especially if Chris Evans's Cap is dead?

It absolutely would. The OT cast coming back again would be a much bigger deal. That's why it's best they don't open that can of worms



Crazy to think that this is a reality but now I'm starting to think that Marvel needs to either keep the white eyes on Wolverine's mask or give him retractable lenses like they did for CM. Because it looks off and wrong without the white eyes

 

[Dark Raven]

It absolutely would. The OT cast coming back again would be a much bigger deal. That's why it's best they don't open that can of worms



Crazy to think that this is a reality but now I'm starting to think that Marvel needs to either keep the white eyes on Wolverine's mask or give him retractable lenses like they did for CM. Because it looks off and wrong without the white eyes

They can do that. They did that with Black Panther. He never had eyeholes where we saw his eyes.

They just better find a way to give us Wolverine's mask and costume. None of this Fox approach where they don't know how to do it properly in live action.

And if we got Jackman back as Wolverine, you can bet he won't wear the cowl, which will set a precedent for the MCU Wolvie.

 

[Dark Raven]

Don't forget Wesley Snipes and Nic Cage

Yep. Those too. And Peter Hooten's Dr Strange, and also Rex Smith's DD and John Rhys Davies's Wilson Fisk. Oh, and Erik Kramer's Thor and Nicholas Hammond's Spidey.

If they had a Secret Wars type event bringing all these old versions back into one reality, that could be quite fun. Although I don't know what Lou Ferrigno's Hulk is going to do or how effective he is. Someone just needs to shoot him with a bullet and he's dead. And Nicholas Hammond's Spidey is rather slow and can only shoot a bit of old rope out of his webshooters.

 

[Marvel united]

They can do that. They did that with Black Panther. He never had eyeholes where we saw his eyes.

They just better find a way to give us Wolverine's mask and costume. None of this Fox approach where they don't know how to do it properly in live action.

And if we got Jackman back as Wolverine, you can bet he won't wear the cowl, which will set a precedent for the MCU Wolvie.

I hope they don't. I like that it dehumanizes Wolverine a bit and makes him more uncanny. He's animal being restrained in the battlefield. The way they did Carol's helmet is encouraging


The costume will be one of the biggest distinguishing factors from Jackman. I'm pretty sure he went on record saying he wanted it but they couldn't make it work which is bullcrap but I don't blame Hugh

 

[Darkprime]

Well then why recruit the FoxMen from the 2nd trilogy instead of the first trilogy? Wouldn't it make more commercial sense to have actors like Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, Kelsey Grammer etc instead of the younger ones?

Also, if we're going to open that can of worms, why don't the Avengers recruit the Ben Affleck DD, Jennifer Garner's Elektra, Tobey Maguire's Spidey, Lou Ferrigno's Hulk, and maybe Matt Salinger's Captain America, especially if Chris Evans's Cap is dead?

Are we actually comparing Jackman to those other castings? wow.... I get it you guys aren't fans of the Foxverse but good grief. Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. Period. Bringing back Hugh for a one off role in Avengers vs X-Men isn't difficult. At the end of it they could just send him back to his universe. That still leaves the door open for the MCU to cast their own Wolverine.

Also there's no reason the original trilogy cast couldn't come back either but Patrick Stewart has said hes done as of Logan. McKellan,Berry,Janssen,Grammer might be open to the idea. McKellan joked once that he was sad he wasn't in Logan. I think he would come back if asked. I mean really anyone would come back for the right amount of money. All I'm saying is we need to be open to the idea of some sort of universe merger with the Foxverse because theres no rule saying they have to reboot even though I agree its likely.

 

[Darkprime]

Besides if they had already decided they were going to reboot everything why are they seemingly evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development? If they were going to reboot everything wouldn't they just trash everything the minute the deal closed?

 

[Lilbaz]

Besides if they had already decided they were going to reboot everything why are they seemingly evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development? If they were going to reboot everything wouldn't they just trash everything the minute the deal closed?

Why wouldn't they look at scripts there might be some good ideas they can adapt? A doctor doom film could easily be adapted for the mcu.

Fox messed up the continuity of the xmen and the films are dropping in popularity. Give them a break and reboot in a few years time. They have plenty of films to make in the meantime.

 

[wobbly]

Besides if they had already decided they were going to reboot everything why are they seemingly evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development? If they were going to reboot everything wouldn't they just trash everything the minute the deal closed?

That would be down to money. Dark Phoenix is something like $200 million of investment Disney have bought. What makes more sense? Bin that money, or release it and get a return? New Mutants isn't looking like it's getting a theatre release, but that didn't cost so much. That will probably get it's money back on streaming though.

Thing is, Disney have shareholders to look after, and deliberately pissing away a $200 mil investment would not go down well at all with them.

Anything they got from Fox that is completed and can make some money will be used one way or another.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Are we actually comparing Jackman to those other castings? wow.... I get it you guys aren't fans of the Foxverse but good grief. Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. Period. Bringing back Hugh for a one off role in Avengers vs X-Men isn't difficult. At the end of it they could just send him back to his universe. That still leaves the door open for the MCU to cast their own Wolverine.

Also there's no reason the original trilogy cast couldn't come back either but Patrick Stewart has said hes done as of Logan. McKellan,Berry,Janssen,Grammer might be open to the idea. McKellan joked once that he was sad he wasn't in Logan. I think he would come back if asked. I mean really anyone would come back for the right amount of money. All I'm saying is we need to be open to the idea of some sort of universe merger with the Foxverse because theres no rule saying they have to reboot even though I agree its likely.

Why would Disney do this when they can just reboot Wolverine and make more money on the X-Men/Avengers crossover (by signing their own actors to long term contracts) instead of paying out the ass to get the original trilogy cast back for a one shot deal?

Besides if they had already decided they were going to reboot everything why are they seemingly evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development? If they were going to reboot everything wouldn't they just trash everything the minute the deal closed?

And by "evaluating" they really mean "which of these projects can we strip mine for ideas for our rebooted universe". Because they are not keeping that continuity. You need to let the past die (kill it if you have to).

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Why would Disney do this when they can just reboot Wolverine and make more money on the X-Men/Avengers crossover (by signing their own actors to long term contracts) instead of paying out the ass to get the original trilogy cast back for a one shot deal?



And by "evaluating" they really mean "which of these projects can we strip mine for ideas for our rebooted universe". Because they are not keeping that continuity. You need to let the past die (kill it if you have to).

After all these years of pining and waiting, Feige is NOT using someone else’s vision of a cinematic X-Men that’s not his.

Maybe Deadpool, but not his beloved X-Men.

 

[MbJ]

C'mon Feige.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Box office for TAS-M1&2

$758 million and $708 million.

World Wide Box Office for DOFP and Apocalypse?

$544 million and $748 million.

All actually respectable BO regardless of fanboy issues.

Thing is... They rebooted Spidey even with those numbers which led to S-M:HC BO of $881 million.

The anticipation and desire for an MCU Spider-man led to a higher BO result.

No matter what a blog says the evidence we have of the last time they integrated a Marvel IP back into the fold I think it's safe to assume they will not be bringing over the performers or continuity of the Fox Mutants into the Marvel Studios films. And yes, no matter how some feel about it Deadpool is highly likely to be the one lone exemption that however one feels about it personally the rest of the audience won't give two ****s about the continuity issues because the nature of Deadpool makes him less a serious CBM attuned to continuity and more meta commentary. In his last film they didn't even leave the events of the previous two hours go before retconning it all in a post credit scene. So... Yeah. Deadpool gets grandfathered in via his wackiness and all the rest is put in the past and the MCU moves on with a new team of actors and creators for the Mutant films.

 

[Detective Conan]

Legendary X-Men writer talks about the X-Men joing the X-Men joining the MCU.

• At 12:54 he talks about his wild pitch for how to introduce the Mutants in the MCU.
• At 30:03 he talks about the topic some more.

• Then at 32:25 he talks about how he'd handle the Fox-franchise post-Days Of Future Past. He has an interesting take on the Apocalypse movie!

 

[psylockolussus]

Lmao.

The Aos Deathlok looked crap.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

C'mon Feige.

Telling you man, her or Damaris Lewis... either one is the perfect Ororo Munroe.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Besides if they had already decided they were going to reboot everything why are they seemingly evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development? If they were going to reboot everything wouldn't they just trash everything the minute the deal closed?

They're being good bosses to Simon Kinberg et al, whose movie hasn't come out yet. Imagine if you handed in your two-weeks notice at work and then your boss couldn't stop talking about your eventual replacement in front of you and your co-workers.

Besides where is that "evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development" quote from? It's not one of those We've Got It Covered tweets is it?

 

[Darkprime]

They're being good bosses to Simon Kinberg et al, whose movie hasn't come out yet. Imagine if you handed in your two-weeks notice at work and then your boss couldn't stop talking about your eventual replacement in front of you and your co-workers.

Besides where is that "evaluating the films Fox Marvel has in development" quote from? It's not one of those We've Got It Covered tweets is it?

It came from Kinberg himself. Jusr recently.

‘Gambit’ Update: Simon Kinberg Says Fox Films Are Being ‘Evaluated’ Since Disney Merger

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Just to put things into some perspective Kinberg hasn't given or gotten a "two weeks notice" from his boss. He's still working for Lucasfilm which is owned by Disney. I'm no apologist for the Fox films, but sometimes the fans get over their skis...

 

[Xeno]

Lmao.

The Aos Deathlok looked crap.

Most everything on AOS looks like crap, so we shouldn't hold that against him.

 

[Dark Raven]

It came from Kinberg himself. Jusr recently.

‘Gambit’ Update: Simon Kinberg Says Fox Films Are Being ‘Evaluated’ Since Disney Merger

Well his words don't carry any weight. He was talking about sequels to Fant4stic before and even thought the original was good. So I would take it simply that he's talking out of his ass again.

 

[Shuri]

Lol, there's no way marvel is bringing the fox men into the MCU. Tptb only fight to keep an actor in a role if the fans are extremely attached to him/her. Majority of the fans can't wait to see these roles (except for Deadpool) recasted and the xmen rebooted. So what incentive is there for marvel to keep them? They are not popular with the audience, their box office earnings were not great (again except for deadpool). The easiest thing for them to do would be to recast and reboot.

 

[DyfeddRex]

I just realized, we now, post-deal, must ask this question....

Did Duffman (from the Simpsons) get dusted, and does he need an "Avenge the Fallen" poster?

Another funny one I know some fool is probably making to get laughs is a Kenny from south park one.... Avenge the.... Thanos Killed Kenny! You @#R@R$%@#!

 

[Marvel united]

This is pretty cool.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I dig it.

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope Wolverine doesn't wear leather but some other material. That looks a bit too much like a Singer costume chopped up and dyed different colours.