The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - Part 9

[InCali]

I don't think the current X-Men franchise has enough "juice" to warrant that, especially after the disappointing critical and BO results for Apocalypse. Marvel could generate the same level of excitement by including the Netflix Defenders into the mix, and they wouldn't have to cut a check to FOX.

My poop at the wall theory is that the title of Avengers 4 reveals that Thanos wins the Infinity War. Something like Avengers: Resurrection.

That's an interesting idea. I hope it's better than the other Resurrection movie that starts with an "A". If that's the case, it makes it sort of odd for Ant-Man and Wasp as well as Captain Marvel because those 2 are sandwiched in between A 3 and 4.

Maybe CM leads the charge in A4 after her "resurrection" in CM?

 

[Zarex]

That's an interesting idea. I hope it's better than the other Resurrection movie that starts with an "A". If that's the case, it makes it sort of odd for Ant-Man and Wasp as well as Captain Marvel because those 2 are sandwiched in between A 3 and 4.

Maybe CM leads the charge in A4 after her "resurrection" in CM?

The fact that there are MCU two films sandwiched between Avengers 3 and 4 gives me pause that there will be any world changing events in the first one. But who knows? Maybe Scott is blasted into the Quantum Realm by Thanos in Infinity War and Hank and Hope have to go retrieve him. Or, as you've mentioned, Carol leads the charge in her solo feature. Maybe she has to form a new team of Avengers to go rescue the original group?

 

[Dasher10]

Considering that Marvel now own[BLACKOUT]The Watchers[/BLACKOUT], I feel like we know what they got back for the X-Men TV rights.

Now between Ego and who just got mentioned, it feels like Marvel are really interested in getting certain FF characters back. I hope that we'll see Annihilus, Blastaar, Skrulls, Doctor Doom and Psycho-Man return before the FF revert in full.

And then it's on to trying to acquire some shared rights to X-Men characters like the Phalanx, Brood, Juggernaut, Shi-Ar, GW Bridge and Abigail Brand.

 

[Zarex]

Back in 2014 artists working on sketch cards involving Marvel characters were told not to use the following Fantastic Four characters:

I won't tell you Uatu think about this. But it seems pretty clear to me.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/0...uctions-not-to-use-fantastic-four-characters/

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Back in 2014 artists working on sketch cards involving Marvel characters were told not to use the following Fantastic Four characters:

I won't tell you Uatu think about this. But it seems pretty clear to me.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/0...uctions-not-to-use-fantastic-four-characters/

:thumbs:

Interesting find.

 

[Krystal]

The [BLACKOUT]Watcher(s) was NOT a shared character(s)[/BLACKOUT]
A few years ago Marvel tried to negotiate the return of [BLACKOUT]Galactus, Surfer and the Watcher[/BLACKOUT] for Fox keeping Daredevil. Fox said no.
For Marvel now to have the right to use [BLACKOUT]Watchers[/BLACKOUT] IS A NEW DEAL.
Great news!!!

 

[Docker2.0]

Here's a crazy thought (as long as we're throwing poop at the wall). X-Men crossover?

Nah, no time soon. Plus Hugh Jackman said the only way he'd still be Wolverine is if he's in the MCU. If they were planning on crossing over, I'm sure he'd play the part for that event.

 

[Orba]

I hope some of the sites pick up on this and start to ask how Marvel were able to use them.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Considering that Marvel now own[BLACKOUT]The Watchers[/BLACKOUT], I feel like we know what they got back for the X-Men TV rights.

I think you might be making a bit of a leap there. Are you inferring Marvel got [BLACKOUT]The Watchers and only the Watchers?[/BLACKOUT] I believe (and Zarex's post above seems to confirm that [BLACKOUT]The Watcher[/BLACKOUT] was part of the FF rights, but the group in general may have still belonged to Marvel (just like they supposedly have the Skrulls).

And I would be surprised if Marvel made a deal just for [BLACKOUT]The Watchers[/BLACKOUT]. I would assume the got more such as them plus Galactus plus Silver Surfer at a minimum. And even if Marvel did get [BLACKOUT]The Watchers[/BLACKOUT] in a deal, how do we know it was the TV deal? They might have been part of the Ego deal or a completely unrelated deal.

And while I don't believe Marvel has the FF outright, some people still believe that was the deal, and this certainly doesn't contradict that in any way. If anything, anyone who believes that complete deal happened could point to this and say: "Aha! Here's evidence that Marvel has FF and related characters.

This could indicate any one of 1000 possibilities. For those of us interested in this particular topic, it's intriguing information, but it doesn't really clear anything up for me at all, and nearly everything that was possible two days last week is pretty much equally possible this week.

 

[Krystal]

Here's an article from 2012 that talked about the trade that fell through.......

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...astic-four-characters-could-go-back-to-marvel

Of course MCU could have made a deal for just the [BLACKOUT]Watchers[/BLACKOUT] -- they already did a minor deal for giving Fox the "Negasonic.." name in exchange for EGO.

Of course I HOPE they made a bigger deal than just [BLACKOUT]Watcher[/BLACKOUT], but a minor deal is a very real possibility.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

A few years ago Marvel tried to negotiate the return of

Spoiler

Galactus, Surfer and the Watcher

I don't remember [BLACKOUT]The Watcher[/BLACKOUT] being specifically mentioned as part of that, but it would be particularly interesting if he was.

I've been quietly believing that there might have been a Galactus and Silver Surfer deal, and I've seen a lot of bits and pieces that could point toward that and, so far, nothing that would specifically rule it out.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Here's an article from 2012 that talked about the trade that fell through.......

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...astic-four-characters-could-go-back-to-marvel

Of course MCU could have made a deal for just the

Spoiler

Watchers

As I mentioned above, I didn't remember that detail, but there it is in black and white.

 

[Krystal]

wouldn't it be awesome if more and more FF "related" supporting players kept popping up in the MCU and finally a while from now at some big show --
BAM! -- the announcement we've all been waiting for?

But before that a mention of the "negative zone" and then maybe cameos or mentions of Blastaar, Psycho-Man, Mole Man, etc. t:

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

wouldn't it be awesome if more and more FF "related" supporting players kept popping up in the MCU and finally a while from now at some big show --
BAM! -- the announcement we've all been waiting for?

But before that a mention of the "negative zone" and then maybe cameos or mentions of Blastaar, Psycho-Man, Mole Man, etc. t:

As much as it seems too good to be true, I'm nearly completely convinced we'll be getting FF back where they belong soon enough.

The idea of Fox making another film within their short window seems beyond crazy.

Which just leaves it a question of how and when will the FF be re-introduced properly.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think we'll get some interesting information at this year's D23 about upcoming projects. There may not be anything specifically about FF, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get at least some hints of FF related characters.

 

[GoblinScrier]

As much as it seems too good to be true, I'm nearly completely convinced we'll be getting FF back where they belong soon enough.

The idea of Fox making another film within their short window seems beyond crazy.

Which just leaves it a question of how and when will the FF be re-introduced properly.

The mention that would officially put me over the moon would be if they discovered where the last infinity stone was found...all eyes pan to Stark when he says oh no...they go..stark..you seem like you've seen a ghost...its in...LATVERIA

 

[Jordacar]

The way Infinity War may or may not be forming up, plus the way Spidey and Black Panther were debuted, the idea of intro-ing the FF in the midst or aftermath of IW doesn't seem as crazy as it used to.

Part of me feels like it would be a missed opportunity, since the Cosmic Ray incident is a Marvel historical event on par with Cap waking up in the modern age, or the gamma bomb, or Tony breaking out of the cave. On the other hand, 3/4 of the existing FF movies have covered the origin already, and the essence of the FF's story is what happens after the origin, so the sooner they get to that the better.

 

[TheVileOne]

Rights reversion confirmed!

 

[Darkraid]

Rights reversion confirmed!

http://splashreport.com/exclusive-h...vol-2-could-help-usher-galactus-into-the-mcu/

 

[TheVileOne]

http://splashreport.com/exclusive-h...vol-2-could-help-usher-galactus-into-the-mcu/

Looks like clickbait to me.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

All this talk is getting me really excited.

 

[First Avenger]

One thing is certain, The inclusion of those characters opens interesting possibilities, and Marvel doesn't usually make things randomly.

 

[Wise]

Also worth noting that Marvel hasn't provided any information on confirmed plans after Black Panther, Cap Marvel and Infinity War P2.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It's being reported on the site-that-shall-not-be-named that Zoe Saldana referred to the second film as "Gauntlet" - apparently revealing the title.

It seems to me that either that's not the final title or Feige was playing some games in claiming the title was a spoiler.

"Gauntlet" (or presumably "Infinity Gauntlet" as the full title) could hardly be considered a spoiler after Marvel has already shown this image:

 

[Orba]

It's being reported on the site-that-shall-not-be-named that Zoe Saldana referred to the second film as "Gauntlet" - apparently revealing the title.

It seems to me that either that's not the final title or Feige was playing some games in claiming the title was a spoiler.

"Gauntlet" (or presumably "Infinity Gauntlet" as the full title) could hardly be considered a spoiler after Marvel has already shown this image:

I suppose the spoiler is that it seems imply that the Avengers don't stop him if he still has the stones in the sequel.