The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Travesty]

Needs more armor.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I know, I know.... I strongly doubt they're going to change the mask but man I'd kill to see this:

Changes:

Pointy ears.

Thicker neck guard so his bubbly head won't look so awkward.

Attached the cape to his neck for a couple reasons. One, it's more comic-accurate. Two, it hides the awkward collar.

Slightly changed the design by the eyes so it gives him a meaner look.

Opened the mouth area a tad more.

This one is just for fun:

Credit to poster Bane for original manip.

I love the suit with the classic Batman emblem.

 

[Brother Jack]

I really don't like the ears.

Yeah, I've never had a problem at all with the inward-curving ears on the Nolan batsuits. In fact, I quite like them, especially for a movie suit. Those ears look too cumbersome for a live-action suit.

 

[Travesty]

Yeah, I've never had a problem at all with the inward-curving ears on the Nolan batsuits. In fact, I quite like them, especially for a movie suit. Those ears look too cumbersome for a live-action suit.

Yeah, I like the ears on the Nolan suits too, but I like what Mister Meddle did. It looks good with the suit, and I can see it working on film. Basically, I like both the original, and the MM version.

 

[Brother Jack]

Yeah, I like the ears on the Nolan suits too, but I like what Mister Meddle did. It looks good with the suit, and I can see it working on film. Basically, I like both the original, and the MM version.

What he did with the neck and cape are .

 

[Hurm...]

As a last resort Batman can ram someone with his head. Those pointy things would hurt like s***!

 

[Mister Meddle]

As a last resort Batman can ram someone with his head. Those pointy things would hurt like s***!

Yeah I was thinking the ears look like a couple of kitchen knives (especially the left ear). If I decide to make another edit I'll definitely make the tip of the ears a little thicker.

 

[tnr105]

Spoiler

I know, I know.... I strongly doubt they're going to change the mask but man I'd kill to see this:

Changes:

Pointy ears.

Thicker neck guard so his bubbly head won't look so awkward.

Attached the cape to his neck for a couple reasons. One, it's more comic-accurate. Two, it hides the awkward collar.

Slightly changed the design by the eyes so it gives him a meaner look.

Opened the mouth area a tad more.

This one is just for fun:

Credit to poster Bane for original manip.

You are my Jesus. FINALLY an oval manip that works. The troika suit was always my favorite in the comics and this looks BADASS. Chris Nolan, if you're out there, use this design!

 

[Man of Steel]

I know, I know.... I strongly doubt they're going to change the mask but man I'd kill to see this:

Changes:

Pointy ears.

Thicker neck guard so his bubbly head won't look so awkward.

Attached the cape to his neck for a couple reasons. One, it's more comic-accurate. Two, it hides the awkward collar.

Slightly changed the design by the eyes so it gives him a meaner look.

Opened the mouth area a tad more.

This one is just for fun:

Credit to poster Bane for original manip.

Both of them are perfect. I like the black-suit the most out of all of Batman's suits.

You are my Jesus. FINALLY an oval manip that works. The troika suit was always my favorite in the comics and this looks BADASS. Chris Nolan, if you're out there, use this design!

Agreed, Batman needs the black suit.

 

[aandfrugby25]

I alwaysed like shorter ears.

 

[JAK®]

I know, I know.... I strongly doubt they're going to change the mask but man I'd kill to see this:

Changes:

Pointy ears.

Thicker neck guard so his bubbly head won't look so awkward.

Attached the cape to his neck for a couple reasons. One, it's more comic-accurate. Two, it hides the awkward collar.

Slightly changed the design by the eyes so it gives him a meaner look.

Opened the mouth area a tad more.

See, just a few minute changes makes it look more like Batman. I wouldn't be complaining if the suit looked like this in TDK (although the notion that batman needs to be encased in rubber armour is still incorrect and I would still argue the point with anyone who believes that)

 

[BatScot]

One of the easiests ways to tell if something is fan-made is if it tries to move closer to the source material at the expense of working for a movie. When you look at the manips of the bat suit for Dark Knight Rises, most of them are easy to identify as fan-made because the artists intent was "how can I make it look more like the comic?" If it were a professionally made illustration, though, the primary goal would be "how can we make it look and work better."

And yet those very "professionals" designed a TDK suit, which—in the opinion of many—fell victim to the opposite extreme of the source material myth.

Speaking of myths...

A design favoring the source material, aesthetic, and workability are not mutually exclusive terms.

 

[TheBatman072]

I hate it when people call the yellow oval classic.

It's not classic. It's recognizable. Easily even.

The actual classic emblem is the solid black bat. That was what Batman had in his first incarnation before the 50s and 60s needed to "lighten him up" for the kids.

 

[JAK®]

I hate it when people call the yellow oval classic.

It's not classic. It's recognizable. Easily even.

The actual classic emblem is the solid black bat. That was what Batman had in his first incarnation before the 50s and 60s needed to "lighten him up" for the kids.

Classic doesn't necessarily mean the first form of something. By that logic, Superman's S emblem isn't classic.

 

[iamcitizen]

And yet those very "professionals" designed a TDK suit, which—in the opinion of many—fell victim to the opposite extreme of the source material myth.

In the opinion of many? Define "many." Definitely not in the opinion of most. All the complaints I've heard about the TDK suit come from comic fans, but plenty of comic fans (myself included) love the TDK suit. So I think that by any reasonable definition, the TDK suit was an entirely successful piece of design work. The TDK suit managed to 1) look like Batman, 2) allow the actor/stuntperson wearing it a decent range of motion, 3) look like a believable piece of technology, and 4) not look stupid to mainstream audiences. The Begins suit failed on 2, the suits from the Burton movies failed on 2 and 3, and the Batman Dead End suit failed big time on 3 and especially 4.

 

[BatScot]

No matter how much money you throw at it, it's still going to look like circus tights. It's a design that only works in comics because comic books are far enough removed from reality for it to work.

Yep, throwing money at something...

... never made it look any better:

Then again, that “look” you say “only works in comics” did in fact work—in the opinion of virtually everyone—in something other than a comic.

Interesting.

 

[JAK®]

In the opinion of many? Define "many." Definitely not in the opinion of most. All the complaints I've heard about the TDK suit come from comic fans, but plenty of comic fans (myself included) love the TDK suit. So I think that by any reasonable definition, the TDK suit was an entirely successful piece of design work. The TDK suit managed to 1) look like Batman, 2) allow the actor/stuntperson wearing it a decent range of motion, 3) look like a believable piece of technology, and 4) not look stupid to mainstream audiences. The Begins suit failed on 2, the suits from the Burton movies failed on 2 and 3, and the Batman Dead End suit failed big time on 3 and especially 4.

I don't think Batscot ever brought up the Burton or Dead End suits? Why would you mention them?

 

[iamcitizen]

I don't think Batscot ever brought up the Burton or Dead End suits? Why would you mention them?

I was showing all the different ways designers could fail at creating a good batsuit. The TDK suit is (in my opinion) the best Batman costume yet put to film, and I was trying to explain exactly why that was.

While I applaud the photoshop skill in the manip Mister Meddle posted, it is basically the TDK suit with some elements added from the Begins suit and the Burton suits, in an attempt to make the final product look more like the comic suit. That's ridiculous, the designers changed those things for a reason.

And keep in mind that I'm a comic fan who would love to see a movie batsuit that was as accurate as say, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man costume. But this is "The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread", not the "My Hypothetical Perfect Batman Movie Batsuit Thread", and anyone who thinks that the filmmakers will change the batsuit in TDKR to be more like the comics is setting themselves up for disappointment.

 

[regwec]

Yep, throwing money at something...

... never made it look any better:

Then again, that “look” you say “only works in comics” did in fact work—in the opinion of virtually everyone—in something other than a comic.

Interesting.

While you make a good point, it is nevertheless true that more expenditure does not in itself tend to produce better results. The TDK suit must have cost a great deal more to produce than the Batman '89 suit, but it looks worse. It's necessary to have a sound design in mind before you turn on the money pump. I would actually think that the grey fabric batsuit would be considerably cheaper to produce than the any of the rubber wetsuits, because it would only really be the mask and cranial structure that needed to be molded and sculpted.

Great to see you back, by the way. Stick around.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

The TDK suit embraces two aspects of Batman - the fact that he's big on gadgets, and that he spends a lot of time thinking about functionality. It works pretty well for the movie because there is this 'grounded in reality' approach with it. The multiple-pieces evoke a sense of super-soldier, with the likes of Solid Snake or such. But can you imagine that in a Tim Burton movie? It would defeat the purpose of Batman being this larger-than-life creature of the night. I hope that the designs in the next film at least lean more towards that than the one we've seen thus far, and this is coming from someone who loves the TDK suit.

 

[JAK®]

I propose a combination of the two; a Batman that has all the functional armour and gadgets, who purposely disguises that by presenting himself as a creature of the night.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

^ Agreed! That'd be ideal. I think I've said this before, but find no reason to not reiterate again: if the defining attribute for the designs in BB was "intimidation", for TDK "functionality", would "stealth" be the best word for TDKR? Afterall, he would be hiding from the cops, and being a 'silent guardian'.

 

[MacLeod]

I know, I know.... I strongly doubt they're going to change the mask but man I'd kill to see this:

Changes:

Pointy ears.

Thicker neck guard so his bubbly head won't look so awkward.

Attached the cape to his neck for a couple reasons. One, it's more comic-accurate. Two, it hides the awkward collar.

Slightly changed the design by the eyes so it gives him a meaner look.

Opened the mouth area a tad more.

This one is just for fun:

Credit to poster Bane for original manip.

I'm still not crazy about him wearing rubber from head to toe again, however these two pictures are fantastic. If we could get something like this I for one would complain a lot less. The legs and stomach are streamlined and not geometric pieces, the color schemes are better, the mask is better and the cape attaches at the neck and covers the shoulders. These are truly great improvements.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I was showing all the different ways designers could fail at creating a good batsuit. The TDK suit is (in my opinion) the best Batman costume yet put to film, and I was trying to explain exactly why that was.

While I applaud the photoshop skill in the manip Mister Meddle posted, it is basically the TDK suit with some elements added from the Begins suit and the Burton suits, in an attempt to make the final product look more like the comic suit. That's ridiculous, the designers changed those things for a reason.

And keep in mind that I'm a comic fan who would love to see a movie batsuit that was as accurate as say, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man costume. But this is "The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread", not the "My Hypothetical Perfect Batman Movie Batsuit Thread", and anyone who thinks that the filmmakers will change the batsuit in TDKR to be more like the comics is setting themselves up for disappointment.

Yes, but if you stray too far from the source material, it is no longer an adaptation of the source material. If I wanted to adapt a film about Jesus, but for the whole film he was dressed up as Robocop and God was dressed up as Optimus Prime people would be like "WTF!? That's not in the Bible" I could just say, "It's my own interpretation"?

 

[Nave 'Torment']

so many jpgs removed on the board. what's going on?