The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - Part 57

[BatLobster]

Filming in IMAX has been possibily the most revolutionary thing Nolan had done on these films. That element alone makes such a difference.

 

[The_Raganork]

Yeah, that was definitely bad for CGI in this day and age. Not sure what WB were thinking.

I am:

Iron Man

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Filming in IMAX has been possibily the most revolutionary thing Nolan had done on these films. That element alone makes such a difference.

And nonchalantly blowing up the love interest.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Back on topic....erm *thinks of a TDKR relevant topic* when do the tdkr happy meals start?

EDIT: I'm not bothered with Avengers bashing (part of me quite likes it) but don't hate on Joss Whedon, that guy was the man for the longest time and I'm damn proud he's gone from "guy who got shafted with Firefly" to "guy who's gonna make a billion easy in hollywood" I just hope after all of this, someone is gonna give him creative freedom and some money so he can make the films he wants to make.

I'm a preteen of the 90's, all i did after school was watch Buffy and Angel.

lulz, so much for going back to a TDKR topic.

 

[BatLobster]

And nonchalantly blowing up the love interest.

Yyyup. In IMAX

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

You might be right, but then the marketing for this movie so far would have been misleading. It may very well be a game changer, but not in the same ways as BB, TDK or (possibly) TDKR.

Of course not. They'll both be game changers in their own unique and exciting ways. It's a real blessing we get both of these films in the same year. If TDKR ends up getting the praise (+ or -) Avengers is getting than the future of CBM's is looking very bright.

 

[Sharkboy]

Oh god are people using game-changer as some new positive adjective without knowing the meaning of the word.

"Oh yeah it was epic...game-changing."

This isn't a slight on the possibly amazing Avengers, but what could possibly be so "game-changing" about it. It's a film about a group superheroes versus aliens, it's not rewriting the laws on comic book films is it? Or is there something insane that no one is telling us about?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I am:

Iron Man

And Begins.

One scene they would try to be like Iron Man and the next they would enter brooding mode. The movie didn't have a unified voice. They threw whatever they thought would be cool at the plate hoping it would stick.

 

[Nevincer]

I am:

Iron Man

Yeah... the first trailer indicated that a lot. Then they tried to essentially cover it up with the last two, but I got the sense they were trying to make a poor man's Iron Man and were trying to save face in those trailers by only showing the action-y stuff, which is why I waited to hear what the critics/fan reaction was.

 

[dark_b]

Yeah, that was definitely bad for CGI in this day and age. Not sure what WB were thinking.

it was a bad design. trust me the same talented artist used the same software and thy workd for the same hours. the design has a big impact on how theCGI looks. its the same with prosthetics,miniatures. trust me.
the design of the alien world was bad . and on top WB and the director decided to shoot on empty greenscreen sets. Imageworks did what thy could.

 

[TheFuture]

And that's despite a massive budget of $200m. The quality of the CGI was embarrassing when you look at the budget. "Where did the money go?" Straight down the toilet.

Sweet creeeeeeeeeam on an ice cream sandwich.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Oh god are people using game-changer as some new positive adjective without knowing the meaning of the word.

"Oh yeah it was epic...game-changing."

This isn't a slight on the possibly amazing Avengers, but what could possibly be so "game-changing" about it.

The team-up aspect I guess, but wouldn't X-Men deserve credit for this in the first place?

 

[The_Raganork]

CBMs are doomed after 2012.

Face it, overexposure will kill them. There's going to come a day where every CBM coming out in the summer is a reboot.

What then?

 

[gorillanesthsia]

What exactly has he done that has never been done before?

Really?

Nolan's Batman is leaps and bounds from Burton's and Keaton's portrayal. Way more depth and nuance. The story is just on another level of as far as scope and meaning is concerned. It is dark...way darker than Burton's because his dark is a more quirky, gothic feel that reads as "fake" for me. I watch those films (and enjoy them) and I am always reminded of it being a performance, due to the set pieces and acting. Much like the German Expressionist films which Burton obviously was inspired by. Look into André Bazin's theories of films because I agree highly with him. Bazin wouldn't even consider Burton's Batman to be true cinema, while he would praise Nolan. Also, you can't argue that the reception around Nolan's "batfilms" are unparallelled.

Any other Batman before that is not even worth mentioning due to the campy-ness. Any batfilm after "Batman" and "Returns" was utter trash until Nolan.

If you disagree, I'll understand... but I really don't think that can be argued. I really don't think anyone has done Batman in the way that Nolan has on film. The only competition was those two films and I don't see how Begins and The Dark Knight aren't leagues ahead of those films.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Of course not. They'll both be game changers in their own unique and exciting ways. It's a real blessing we get both of these films in the same year. If TDKR ends up getting the praise (+ or -) Avengers is getting than the future of CBM's is looking very bright.

Marvel seems to be in good shape. DC? Not so much. Once Nolan is done, Batman goes into hibernation and WB will be forced to get their act together with different DC characters. Superman could turn out good, or could be yet another trainwreck for the franchise.

 

[Sharkboy]

The team-up aspect I guess, but wouldn't X-Men deserve credit for this in the first place?

Exactly. Although I guess different heroes of different big budget films coming together in one film is unparalleled (or it's not if someone would like to correct me) but this has nothing to do with the quality of the film.

 

[Blue Sugar]

I'm stoked for The Avengers even though none of the solo-films really knocked me – though some were good. But the The Avengers trailers has been great and it looks entertaining to the max.

Though I'm getting a bit worried with all the clips, it seems like in every scene there is some kind of wit and/or self-awareness, I hope they don't overdo it. I mean a movie like The Avengers obviously needs that stuff but there is always a risk of doing it too much or at the wrong places.

 

[Nevincer]

CBMs are doomed after 2012.

Face it, overexposure will kill them. There's going to come a day where every CBM coming out in the summer is a reboot.

Man, this is sounding like the horror genre all over again

 

[The_Raganork]

The team-up aspect I guess, but wouldn't X-Men deserve credit for this in the first place?

Yes well, maybe.

I may be the only one but aside from Iron Man the other three main characters felt as if they were born for the sole purpose of being in Avengers. It doesn't feel like legitimately crossing over.

They just feel like Avengers prequels.

 

[TheFuture]

Though I'm getting a bit worried with all the clips, it seems like in every scene there is some kind of wit and/or self-awareness, I hope they don't overdo it. I mean a movie like The Avengers obviously needs that stuff but there is always a risk of doing it too much or at the wrong places.

Welcome to the world of Joss Whedon.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Oh god are people using game-changer as some new positive adjective without knowing the meaning of the word.

"Oh yeah it was epic...game-changing."

This isn't a slight on the possibly amazing Avengers, but what could possibly be so "game-changing" about it. It's a film about a group superheroes versus aliens, it's not rewriting the laws on comic book films is it? Or is there something insane that no one is telling us about?

Ask people who've seen it, not me. Whenever I ask people who went to the pre-screenings about it they always say things like "the trailers and tv spots don't do it justice" and "there's much more to it than you would expect" and "just wait until you see it and you'll understand"

 

[Sharkboy]

I just think CBM's just need to stop worrying about comic books and start doing their own thing, just like x-men first class. Take those ideas into movie only fresh ideas. Start making films with superheroes, not superhero films. Green Lantern proved that the old way doesn't work anymore.

 

[Nevincer]

The team-up aspect I guess, but wouldn't X-Men deserve credit for this in the first place?

Yeah, that's the thing. It's the franchise crossing over thing that is new... but multiple superheroes with different abilities/origins working as a team has been done before.

 

[Boom]

The entire concept of the Marvel movie-verse is pretty game-changing. Up until now, it simply has not been attempted in this genre - at least not to this extent.

 

[Gianakin_]

Though I'm getting a bit worried with all the clips, it seems like in every scene there is some kind of wit and/or self-awareness, I hope they don't overdo it.

That's pure Whedon, though. Expect a movie written by him and starring Downey Jr. in scenery-chewing mode to be VERY self-aware and full of one liners. Not necessarily a bad thing, they both do wonders in that respect.