The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE)

[Sharkboy]

Yea, Gambol silently slumping to the floor could have been fixed by having Joker snap his neck or something.

Again, this is a pg-13 film, you'd be suprised how strict and petty they are when it comes to showy acts of violence and blood against living breathing humans in a realistic enviroment. For all we know all of that had to be taken out to acheive their pg13 rating. This isn't prometheus where ridley says he can shoot the film he wants, and it will get the rating it gets. This is strictly a pg-13 film it always was, and according to the ratings board, aliens vapourizing millions of humans into dust is a lot less harsh than a human being stabbing another human being with a pool cue or a knife.

 

[Sharkboy]

I didn't realise we had so many knife....fans, on here.

 

[The Morningstar]

Neck snappings are in loads of PG-13 films. The point is, it was a poor pay off to a great build up. All that tension then... Gambol just silently falls to the floor and we don't even know why.

 

[camp Blood]

None of Jokers knives looked like real knives in the movie. They aren’t shiny and don’t glisten the way a real metal knife would, none of them even looked sharp lol.

The scene where it's most notable is when Joker crashes the party and is all up in Rachel’s face with the "blade". Looks like a plastic toy knife to me.

its a Cupid OTF knockoff I have the same knife it cost 20 bucks and is very dull out of the box so it's safe I also think I spotted another cheap OTF when they were putting his knives on the table and I'm not 100% but I think the knife he uses to kill spawn is a gerber

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Agreed the problems of Inception and TDK didn't really occur to me until repeated viewings, BB despite how good it was felt like the most rushed mess ever of a film. It felt like instead of making the choice to cut scenes from the movie, he decided to squash them all in while Zimmers music played, it felt at times like an overlong trailer.

There's this one moment, when Bats drives off the bridge into the narrows, gets out of his car, divulges his plan to gordon, and gives him his car all in less than a minute. I'm glad he chose to let his scenes breath in TDK.

The Captain America film suffers from the same problem. It swiftly goes from one scene to the next while it's OST plays without pause almost it's entire duration.

 

[Jedm1991]

Does anyone know what certificate Smallville DVD's are, because there was a pencil in a guys ear in one episode

 

[The Morningstar]

Captain America has intended montages though. The USO one was genius. The second one was... not so much. Would have preferred a proper battle scene instead of a montage there.

 

[Sharkboy]

The Captain America film suffers from the same problem. It swiftly goes from one scene to the next while it's OST plays without pause almost it's entire duration.

Yep one of the many reasons I don't fully understand the love that film gets from some people.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I was talking about the normal scenes. The length of scenes are short and swift and the OST almost always swells in the background making it seem as if the entire film is in permanent montage mode. The same problem was prevalent in Begins.

 

[kvz5]

This thread's getting BAMFed soon.

 

[Nevincer]

This thread's getting BAMFed.

I wish

 

[The Morningstar]

I was talking about the normal scenes. The length of scenes are short and swift and the OST almost always swells in the background making it seem as if the entire film is in permanent montage mode. The same problem was prevalent in Begins.

Hmm can't say i noticed that outside of the two montages.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Only Terrence Malick can make a film that is almost entirely a montage and have it be called high art.

 

[Jedm1991]

This thread's getting BAMFed soon.

 

[Kane52630]

Nah that wouldn't work, I would replace it with a Nightcrawler silhouette.

 

[Nevincer]

Bamfer's not coming. You guys drove him out with your cruel comments last time

 

[The_Raganork]

this is so funny/cool/slightly obscene!

 

[Tacit Ronin]

One of my biggest worries with this film are the extras. Their "acting" was dreadful last time and this film seems to have even more.

 

[Fenrir]

The kind of overblown criticism of TDK's editing thrown about in this thread is what makes me so dismissive of anything fanboys complain about. TDK was nominated for Best Editing by the Oscars, BAFTA and American Cinema Editors Society and I actually trust those people to know infinitely more about what constitutes good editing than the armchair critics in this thread.

 

[Nevincer]

One of my biggest worries with this film are the extras. Their "acting" was dreadful last time and this film seems to have even more.

The ones from the prison breakout already damage the trailer's rewatchability for me.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The kind of overblown criticism of TDK's editing thrown about in this thread is what makes me so dismissive of anything fanboys complain about. TDK was nominated for Best Editing by the Oscars, BAFTA and American Cinema Editors Society and I actually trust those people to know infinitely more about what constitutes good editing than the armchair critics in this thread.

That's because most of these editing faults rest with Nolan's lack of skill than the editor himself; who does his best with whatever's given.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[The_Raganork]

The kind of overblown criticism of TDK's editing thrown about in this thread is what makes me so dismissive of anything fanboys complain about. TDK was nominated for Best Editing by the Oscars, BAFTA and American Cinema Editors Society and I actually trust those people to know infinitely more about what constitutes good editing than the armchair critics in this thread.

people are always overly critical of these things some 4 years after.

When TDK came out I doubt anyone was really complaining that they couldn't see Gambol's friends dying because the scene is filled of tension between Joker and Gambol..you know...the main characters of the scene?

Sure there are some editing mistakes but all these errors that people are treating as if they were critical flaws and uncommon in 90% of all films are silly.

Like I said, this thread goes through phases

There's the genuine speculation phase - which is the shortest

The talk about previous batman films phase (non TDK)

Talk about non-related films phase

GIF phase - This has slowed down

Criticize TDK on every last aspect of the film phase.

 

[Fenrir]

That's because most of these editing faults rest with Nolan's lack of skill than the editor himself; who does his best with whatever's given.

Nolan's lack of skill, uh-huh. That explains why he was shortlisted by the Directors Guild of America - because of his lack of skill. The kind of inane arguments people resort to to defend their silly positions...

 

[Gianakin_]

On the other hand, the knife and extras criticism makes absolutely no sense to me.