The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[ggghhh]

It doesn't matter who you are, it's your plan that defines you.
[BLACKOUT]can't remember who pointed this out.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Brain Damage]

This B-roll footage from The Dark Knight is awesome. I hope we get the same for TDKR.

it never ceases to amaze me how little CGI there actually is in these movies.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

I loved the part where Morgan Freeman was walking - what the heck happened there?

 

[Miranda Fox]

I have a theory about Lucius Fox and his part in this story which would also account for his absence in the trailer...

I think that in the eight years between TDK and TDKR Fox will have retired from Wayne Enterpises, at least as CEO, but possibly still supplies Bruce with gadgets. After Bruce recovers from his beating at Bane's hands, he goes to Fox and asks about a particular vehicle and thus, we have the Batprawn. It could even be a 'one last favour' sort of thing.

 

[The_Raganork]

I have a theory about Lucius Fox and his part in this story which would also account for his absence in the trailer...

I think that in the eight years between TDK and TDKR Fox will have retired from Wayne Enterpises, at least as CEO, but possibly still supplies Bruce with gadgets. After Bruce recovers from his beating at Bane's hands, he goes to Fox and asks about a particular vehicle and thus, we have the Batprawn. It could even be a 'one last favour' sort of thing.

Not a bad theory.

However the Batprawn exist Pre-Bane

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Not a bad theory.

However the Batprawn exist Pre-Bane

Wait how do you know that?

 

[The_Raganork]

Wait how do you know that?

GCPD is chasing Batman at to capture him; all of the force is after him. Bane may be around but is not seen more of a threat than Batman (he doesn't have the tumblers yet)

After Bane appears he's the focus of everything, there's no business as usual.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

GCPD is chasing Batman at to capture him; all of the force is after him. Bane may be around but is not seen more of a threat than Batman (he doesn't have the tumblers yet)

After Bane appears he's the focus of everything, there's no business as usual.

Wait I thought the Batprawn is the Batwing right? You're saying there's a police chase with the Batwing/prawn that happens before Bane shows up?

 

[The_Raganork]

Wait I thought the Batprawn is the Batwing right? You're saying there's a police chase with the Batwing/prawn that happens before Bane shows up?

Indeed, the first reveal and then it makes a triumphant return when going against the Tumblers and HEMTT truck

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Indeed, the first reveal and then it makes a triumphant return when going against the Tumblers and HEMTT truck

Interesting, so that means the big chase scene with the cops doesn't occur directly after TDK unless he's had the ship in the making during the events of TDK...

 

[The_Raganork]

Interesting, so that means the big chase scene with the cops doesn't occur directly after TDK unless he's had the ship in the making during the events of TDK...

There are many clues that it doesn't take place after TDK

Chief among them is that Foley and Blake are in the scene

 

[Miranda Fox]

Not a bad theory.

However the Batprawn exist Pre-Bane

Ah. I wasn't aware of that.

 

[dark_b]

how do you show that the police is still after Batman after 8 years? do you show that after 8 years they are still chasing him. or do you show a scene 5 mintues after TDK where the police is chasing batman and then jump t foreward in time 8 years and have Gordon say that the police is still after Batman?

what is going on here? does anyone know what visual storytellign is? you have an action scene where batman is chased by the police. but at the same time the action scene itself is important to the story. the police is still after batman after 8 years. you set this up in the first 5 minutes of the movie. what logical purpose would the action scene have if it was happening 5 minutes after TDK? what would you tell to the public through this scene? what meaning would it have? that the police is after batman because he killed Dent? no s... sherlock.

 

[The_Raganork]

how do you show that the police is still after Batman after 8 years? do you show that after 8 years they are still chasing him. or do you show a scene 5 mintues after TDK where the police is chasing batman and then jump t foreward in time 8 years and have Gordon say that the police is still after Batman?

what is going on here?

When Gordon is put out, Foley takes over. To show that he can be as effective as Gordon ( a war hero) he sets out to do something Gordon never could (would) and that's catch Batman.

 

[dark_b]

When Gordon is put out, Foley takes over. To show that he can be as effective as Gordon ( a war hero) he sets out to do something Gordon never could (would) and that's catch Batman.

i edited my post. i added more .

the main point of the police chase is that the police is after batman.still after 8years. you set this up so that in the third act you can have development from batman/police and Gotham. they fight together to defeat Bane . its also a bonus that Foley is taking over.

but i ask again . as a writter why would you show an action scene that takes place 5 minutes after TDK and then jump 8 years in the future?

 

[The_Raganork]

i edited my post. i added more .

the main point of the police chase is that the police is after batman.still after 8years. you set this up so that in the third act you can have development from batman/police and Gotham. they fight together to defeat Bane . its also a bonus that Foley is taking over.

but i ask again . as a writter why would you show an action scene that takes place 5 minutes after TDK and then jump 8 years in the future?

I'm not sure why you're asking me that. I've already said it DOES NOT take place right after TDK but, rather closer to the second act of TDKR.

exhausted Batman comes back for a job and to his dismay is hunted by GCPD after its completed and just when we think Batman's fatigue may get the best of him, he pulls the Batwing/Thing out of an alley and flies off into the night.

 

[StarLord]

Isn't the Bat-Prawn in TDK?

I'm sure someone posted a screencap of when Coleman Reese hands over the blueprints to Fox and it's on the right hand side of the page.

Can someone check that out and clarify?

 

[StarLord]

Isn't the Bat-Prawn in TDK?

I'm sure someone posted a screencap of when Coleman Reese hands over the blueprints to Fox and it's on the right hand side of the page.

Can someone check that out and clarify?

 

[The_Raganork]

Isn't the Bat-Prawn in TDK?

I'm sure someone posted a screencap of when Coleman Reese hands over the blueprints to Fox and it's on the right hand side of the page.

Can someone check that out and clarify?

we've done this 1,000 times.

The plans are of the tumbler. Which is what the topic of conversation is between Reese and Fox.

 

[dark_b]

I'm not sure why you're asking me that. I've already said it DOES NOT take place right after TDK but, rather closer to the second act of TDKR.

exhausted Batman comes back for a job and to his dismay is hunted by GCPD after its completed and just when we think Batman's fatigue may get the best of him, he pulls the Batwing/Thing out of an alley and flies off into the night.

i am asking shh members who thinks that its after TDK.

 

[The_Raganork]

i am asking shh members who thinks that its after TDK.

o.k. Gotcha...I'm a little slow this morning..all the holiday 'fun'.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to have a scene right after TDK.

 

[ceebee9000]

I'm not of the opinion that it is right after Dark Knights ending, but it wouldn't be THAT out of the question if it was, it would actually be very similar to the Bourne Ultimatum opening. Did you see that? Or Fast Five's opening for that matter.

 

[The_Raganork]

I'm not of the opinion that it is right after Dark Knights ending, but it wouldn't be THAT out of the question if it was, it would actually be very similar to the Bourne Ultimatum opening. Did you see that? Or Fast Five's opening for that matter.

it would lessen the impact of the 8 year jump, which is very deliberate in this film to illustrate something about Bruce and Gotham, its unecessary

 

[StarLord]

we've done this 1,000 times.

The plans are of the tumbler. Which is what the topic of conversation is between Reese and Fox.

1,001 now.

 

[guy_from_nerk]

I believe the movie does pick up right after TDK, how else would they have Harvey Dents funeral? They waited 8 years to bury him? We know that Gordon speaks at this event as seen in the trailer, why would a chase after batman during the same time frame be out of the question? They could somehow jump 8 years ahead after that..just an idea

Also remember the rumors that Fox died as a hostage? I was thinking to myself last night that maybe that isn't true. We know a hostage dies (the Dr), so maybe whoever started the Fox rumor was wrong. I don't see any of the main characters from this series dying off honestly, but then again Rachael died in the last one lol. I guess we will all find out what really happens next June