The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - Part 127 (NO SPOILERS)

[Tony Stark]

That review isn't mixed at all. Did you read it? He said this is arguably the best trilogy in popular cinema and that no one will be able to follow in Nolan's footsteps. That's about as far from mixed as can be. His rating at Rotten Tomatoes is listed as a 9/10. He doesn't work for Hollywood Reporter anymore, so that's why he's not listed as a Top Critic.

Soemthing is messed up because the review I linked too is different than the one that is there now. It showed up rotten and he was a top critic, now it's fresh and the review is different. I think someone posted another person's reveiw for Honeycutt who was not a top critic, and now they've got his review, but he's not listed as a top critic.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

It won't just for the simple fact that Jackson feels the need to cut that story into two films and possibly a third.

It's Towers and King all over again. But, you'll never know it. Talk about a set of films that are about to get a pass....just watch.

I always thought it was a bit unnecessary to have to split it in two, especially considering how much stuff they're ding to the story. I've never read the books, but I have heard from different people that characters like Frodo and Legolas aren't even in the book, so it seems Jackson is adding them for either nostalgia or just to have an excuse to split it in two. A disciplined script and a lean 3 hours would've sufficed, though not this long after the original films.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Any reactions from the chicago screening? Shouldnt it be done by now?

It's not even 4 yet in Chicago. I'd give it more time.

 

[Anno_Domini]

87%!

And the consensus is up on RT as well, although I don't think that last sentence should've been used.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Any reactions from the chicago screening? Shouldnt it be done by now?

Roger Ebert ‏@ebertchicago
Studio sets "Dark Knight" review embargo for midnight Sunday. They don't screen it in Chicago until 1 pm Tuesday. How does that work?

That Ebert's tweet on Saturday. So it should be done.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

My last off topic LOTR comment:

Two Towers and ROTK are good, solid films and do nothing to diminish the fact that that trilogy is the most ambitious and successful in film history.

With that said: the latter two pictures reveal Jackson's fundamental misunderstanding of the series, focusing on huge battles (impressive. Impressive battles) instead of the heart underneath and the souls of the hobbits. Tolkien told an epic through a tiny set of eyes. Jackson said "screw it" and went for broke. Gusto, bravura, all those words. But the lack you feel in those last two pics is because his iris expanded and his focu blurred a bit. Still the list impressive of accomplishments and by no means ineffective.

 

[Joker594]

Chicago press screening should be getting out about now.

We should hear something soon.

 

[JackWhite]

87%!

And the consensus is up on RT as well, although I don't think that last sentence should've been used.

Same. But whatever, I'll have to see the film with my own eyes to judge if it surpasses TDK.

Any other reviews on the way?

 

[J.Howlett]

My last off topic LOTR comment:

Two Towers and ROTK are good, solid films and do nothing to diminish the fact that that trilogy is the most ambitious and successful in film history.

With that said: the latter two pictures reveal Jackson's fundamental misunderstanding of the series, focusing on huge battles (impressive. Impressive battles) instead of the heart underneath and the souls of the hobbits. Tolkien told an epic through a tiny set of eyes. Jackson said "screw it" and went for broke. Gusto, bravura, all those words. But the lack you feel in those last two pics is because his iris expanded and his focu blurred a bit. Still the list impressive of accomplishments and by no means ineffective.

Too true. But, I'd argue that the Harry Potter series is far more ambitious an undertaking for the simple fact that the kids couldn't age too much between films. The whole franchise depended on those kids maturing EXACTLY RIGHT to get to the end of the series.

In 10 years, they produced 8 films, with each film being better than the last. That, to me, is more remarkable than film three films at once...

 

[Dragon_316ca]

MaraReinstein

Been killing me not to talk/write/tweet/whatever about Dark Knight Rises. But finally I can say it lives up to the hype. Need to see again

Her 4-star review will be up on usmagazine.com soon.

 

[Musty002]

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-dark-knight-rises/critic-reviews

From 86 to 81 damn the village voice reviewer 40/100 wtf why can't scott foundas review the dark knight rises?? He is the one that gave TDK a 10/10.

I hope it stays above 80. But then again a lot of reviews are not praising like the way they praised the TDK.

 

[Norek]

Too true. But, I'd argue that the Harry Potter series is far more ambitious an undertaking for the simple fact that the kids couldn't age too much between films. The whole franchise depended on those kids maturing EXACTLY RIGHT to get to the end of the series.

In 10 years, they produced 8 films, with each film being better than the last. That, to me, is more remarkable than film three films at once...

This is very arguable.

 

[J.Howlett]

By the way, did anyone actually purchase the soundtrack to Rises today?

 

[Brother Jack]

87%!

And the consensus is up on RT as well, although I don't think that last sentence should've been used.

I'm not sure how accurate that is. From the reviews I've read, the non-spoilery ones, the feeling regarding the comparison is that while TDK might be the more unique and transcendent, Rises is just as good if not better as a film.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

i'm trying to avoid all spoilers, and this is not going to make me popular especially around here but the news that RT had to step in and remove the ability to post anonymously on comments and critics after nolan fans started flaming and sending death threats is just pathetic

i'm looking forward to this as much as the next batfan but if its not perfect or doesn't beat the avengers in reviews or boxoffice who really gives a crap, it doenst take away from the story or the trilogy. morons like the fans who made these attacks are what gives nolanites the rep they currently have

 

[Sharkboy]

Too true. But, I'd argue that the Harry Potter series is far more ambitious an undertaking for the simple fact that the kids couldn't age too much between films. The whole franchise depended on those kids maturing EXACTLY RIGHT to get to the end of the series.

In 10 years, they produced 8 films, with each film being better than the last. That, to me, is more remarkable than film three films at once...

You'd find a hard time convincing many people that the 4th, 5th and 6th film were better than the third, it's certainly an achievement, but none of them (except the 3rd and the final one) were critical darlings.

 

[guedesh93]

Jesus... went to the SPOILERS thread for the first time, just to give a snippet, and man, pretty sure the entire movie it's here... almost spoiled the ENDING now... my punishment must be more severe.

 

[QBComics]

By the way, did anyone actually purchase the soundtrack to Rises today?

I certainly did. Still love Imagine the Fire.

 

[Norek]

You'd find a hard time convincing many people that the 4th, 5th and 6th film were better than the third, it's certainly an achievement, but none of them (except the 3rd and the final one) were critical darlings.

Spot on.

 

[Thoix]

I certainly did. Still love Imagine the Fire.

I keep replaying the first three-four minutes of that track.

 

[J.Howlett]

You'd find a hard time convincing many people that the 4th, 5th and 6th film were better than the third, it's certainly an achievement, but none of them (except the 3rd and the final one) were critical darlings.

The third is the worse adaptation, even if it's cinematically considered the best. Yates' two part of Hallows is more masterful than the third.

 

[redfirebird2008]

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-dark-knight-rises/critic-reviews

From 86 to 81 damn the village voice reviewer 40/100 wtf why can't scott foundas review the dark knight rises?? He is the one that gave TDK a 10/10.

I hope it stays above 80. But then again a lot of reviews are not praising like the way they praised the TDK.

Seemed like a fair enough review to me, though he is wrong about "second unit footage." Nolan doesn't have a second unit on his films. He is there to shoot every single frame of the movie.

 

[Deserana]

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[Sidekick94]

The third is the worse adaptation, even if it's cinematically considered the best. Yates' two part of Hallows is more masterful than the third.

couldnt agree more

 

[Avengers-Report]

The third is the worse adaptation, even if it's cinematically considered the best. Yates' two part of Hallows is more masterful than the third.

The 7Pt2 wasn't even that good. It's a fantastic ending in the story, and they missed on a ton.