The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141

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Thinking about the movie, the first half up to Selina getting thrown into prison is good. I think once Bruce gets thrown in jail, he goes missing screen time wise, and it slows down a bit too much. But once he climbs out and comes back to Gotham it picks up again.

I sorta feel the same way. For those forty minutes(I think) when Bruce is in the Pit, everything about Gotham seems to slow down; even if the stuff about Gordon/Blake/the cops trying to find the bomb and what not is the focus over in Gotham in the film, Selina does feel like she's put on hold until Bruce returns and I feel that Selina should have been the focus while Bruce is in the Pit.
 
Uh, it's a statue from the film, I think. It's located at the Los Angeles Auto Show.
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:wow: Outstanding, also based on the look it seems Batman is based off of The Begins version.
 
I would say it's more based off a traditional Batman look rather than Begins in particular. Obviously the cowl is specifically the Nolan design though
 
Thank you Nolan for a good trilogy, the end just feels inconsequential for me now that it's basically confirmed Blake became Batman. The part of me who loves Bruce Wayne and wanted him to find happiness is satisfied, but the other part that loves the Gotham that Nolan has created as well as Bruce's journey isn't too content knowing it only lead to finding out that Gotham needs to be babysitted by a masked crusader until the end of time. For me, that made his mission feel kind of futile. It's like the whole "Gotham needs a hero with a face" theme was forgotten.

One misfire doesn't mean the concept as a whole wasn't ideal,

See I saw at Gotham needing SOMEONE not necassarily a crime fighter. Harvey Dent was just the wrong guy. Had Dent not been scarred by The Joker he'd likely had been the hero with a face and Bruce would have stepped down. Who's to say a similar figure wont be present in Levitt's reign but this time be successfull...
 
I sorta feel the same way. For those forty minutes(I think) when Bruce is in the Pit, everything about Gotham seems to slow down; even if the stuff about Gordon/Blake/the cops trying to find the bomb and what not is the focus over in Gotham in the film, Selina does feel like she's put on hold until Bruce returns and I feel that Selina should have been the focus while Bruce is in the Pit.
Agreed.
 
Well I just finished watching my Blu-Ray.

It's funny that I feel almost how I felt when I saw it in IMAX on my first viewing.
 
Here's the video of The Dark Knight Legend Exhibit (in case you guys can't make it to the event):
 
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See I saw at Gotham needing SOMEONE not necassarily a crime fighter. Harvey Dent was just the wrong guy. Had Dent not been scarred by The Joker he'd likely had been the hero with a face and Bruce would have stepped down. Who's to say a similar figure wont be present in Levitt's reign but this time be successfull...
I do not doubt that idealistic and well meaning politicians will arise during Blake's tenure, but they will come and go swifly like the passing wind.
An everlasting pillar of incorruptible good like the symbol of Batman will always be needed in that world in my opinion.
 
Couldn't the "Hero With A Face" theme have meant its meaningful conclusion at the end of TDKR with the statue reveal of Batman in Gotham City? The face of Batman that inspired and provided hope when it was needed the most.
 
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I also prefer the notion of "A Hero Can Be Anyone", because it's absolutely true.

But I feel as if the "Batman could be anyone" comment was more about how anyone can stand for what the Batman stands for, not necessarily running around the streets beating criminals to a pulp with your bare hands.

This. I don't understand the apparent fascination of going for a literal interpretation with that line. It doesn't make sense.

There are certain things a Batman can do that the proper authorities can't do. That was the significance of Blake's arc. He tried to save the bus full of orphans to the best of his abilities as a beat cop, which proved near fatal if it weren't for Batman saving the day. And Batman could do this because he wasn't a cop. He could do this because he operated outside the law. Blake throws away his badge in realization of this reality. Even Harvey Dent had to bend the rules to achieved his goals. Gordon too, in dealing with the mess left by Two Face. While there will always be incorruptible people like Gordon and Rachel ready to do good, they will be bound by the shackles of the law, and that's why an extra-authoritarian protector like Batman will always be needed for that world.

That I believe was one of the thematic points of the film.

I do not doubt that idealistic and well meaning politicians will arise during Blake's tenure, but they will come and go swifly like the passing wind.
An everlasting pillar of incorruptible good like the symbol of Batman will always be needed in that world in my opinion.

I think that my favorite line in that scene is "The training is nothing. The will is everything!.......The will to act." I think that line alone speaks volumes about the inspiration and purpose behind Chris Nolan's Batman.

Excellent posts, gents. :up:
 
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It's pretty normal, there's tons of "For Your Consideration" ads for different Oscar buzz films every year around this time.
 
It's pretty normal, there's tons of "For Your Consideration" ads for different Oscar buzz films every year around this time.

They didn't push for TDK like this back in 2008 though? I know Heath got lots of push for best supporting actor.
 
TDKR was – if possible – even better the second time around. Last half hour is insane. So adrenalinic, so emotional, so ïnspiring.

I'm like in love with The Bat. Love the way it moves. In some sequences it reminds me of the Millennium Falcon in feeling, especially in the way that it's used and shot.

There is like one or two sequences of shoddy editing. And one bad scene. That's the only things I don't like about the movie – which says a lot. Also more well-rounded and tightly plotted than I remembered. Many things made much more sense now.

Yet another thing I love about the move, that I guess some people find cliché, is those classic adventure, hero and action movie moments. There are moments in this movie that reminds me of stuff like Rocky, Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones, James Cameron movie in general and that kind of stuff. Those "hell yeah", "yes!" and "oh no!" moments. Moments that really hits at a simple, almost primal level. The thing is that the movie ALSO has more deeper and thoughtful layers to it. Different themes that derive from both human nature and sociopolitics, which gives it a wide scope thematically. For example when I saw it in the cinema with my brother, I loved the more personal and human stuff the most, while my brother loved the political stuff and historical analogies the most.

About the thematic idea of Batman in this universe – I think some people take the word "anybody" a bit too literal. And it's "Batman could be anybody" not "Anybody could be Batman", which makes a bigger different in terms of resonance and meaning than people might first think.

Wayne set out to create a symbol and to inspire a city and it's people. The copycats from TDK wasn't what he meant about that. Persons like John Blake and Jim Gordon is what he meant to inspire. And if Batman had never inspired people like John Blake and Gordon, Bruce wouldn't have been able to finally save the city when he came back from the pit. The thing he set out to do in BB is what ultimately helps him save Gotham.

Now just like Nolan says, some might not like that philosophy or idea for Batman, and that's understandable since it's a totally unique and very different take on the character. Me? I love it!

Film looks amazing on BD, and the fantastic photography really comes across. Much better transfer than TDK.

Now on to the special features! Especially curious about "A Girl's Gotta Eat", since Anne totally rocked my world as Selina Kyle.
 
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