The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - Part 153

[Tacit Ronin]

Now that is wow. All people can muster is FEELING it in our bones and stuff, but to KNOW in our bones and stuff must be a journey through the halls of valhalla.

 

[JackWhite]

That is pretty neat.

 

[Travesty]

I like where this conversation is going....

 

[JackWhite]

I like where this conversation is going....

The OG, of feeling it in his bones.....and stuff. t:

 

[Tacit Ronin]

That's how it starts. The fever, the rage, the feeling in your bones of stuff, that turns men cruel.

 

[ThePhantasm]

No one cared who I was until I felt it in my bones and stuff

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Devils don't come from the hell beneath us, they come from our bones and stuff.

 

[Penguin]

This is getting too deep.

 

[Keehar]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=31556477&postcount=123

I know this guy is just trying to troll bait, but why do some clueless people think Bats quit because Rachel popped her clogs? Even when the movie says that ain't the reason. Really makes you wonder.

 

[titansupes]

Because some people are ****wits.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

What would be wrong with that anyways? Batman quit in TDKreturns after Jason Todd got killed.

 

[shauner111]

He was closer to Rachel than Bruce was to Jason, and he still didn't quit after she died. So that makes him Batman a lot more than Miller's. He also tried to help the city during his retirement which Miller's Bruce didn't seem to care about. In Returns, we see how much of a cesspool Gotham is and has become in his absence and he waits until the final hour to do something about it. Bale's Bruce acted very quickly if you compare the two.

Im sure that was a funny little troll post by Regwec. But if anybody still believes in that non-sense, they're straight up...dumb. It's not difficult to pay attention to a movie that is telling you that it wasn't the case with Bruce Wayne's retirement.

 

[The Joker]

The B'89 thread has been a bit critical for the last few pages, and I don't think reg likes it. He's too intelligent to really believe Bruce quit because of Rachel. I think he was just trying to get a rise out of someone.

 

[hafizbat]

What would be wrong with that anyways? Batman quit in TDKreturns after Jason Todd got killed.

Nothing wrong with different interpretations of the character.

He was closer to Rachel than Bruce was to Jason, and he still didn't quit after she died. So that makes him Batman a lot more than Miller's. He also tried to help the city during his retirement which Miller's Bruce didn't seem to care about. In Returns, we see how much of a cesspool Gotham is and has become in his absence and he waits until the final hour to do something about it. Bale's Bruce acted very quickly if you compare the two.

Im sure that was a funny little troll post by Regwec. But if anybody still believes in that non-sense, they're straight up...dumb. It's not difficult to pay attention to a movie that is telling you that it wasn't the case with Bruce Wayne's retirement.

Well said. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who actually believe it.

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/121024537233/batman-begins

 

[Malicked]

Everytime someone says Batman ruined Bale for them, it burns me

But a lot of this has been covered already in this thread but I will say this is by FAR the most pro-Baleman place I've encountered on the net. Everywhere else he's horribly divisive and remarkably so for such an acclaimed trilogy. I now encounter more people than ever say 'you know I loved TDK trilogy but I hated Batman himself' or 'Bale did a horrible job but everyone else did great'.

 

[shauner111]

It pisses me off when people take some Batman moments from the two sequels out of context and then decide that bale was horrible all around. After Begins, that guy was seen as THE GODDAMN BATMAN and the best Bruce Wayne. He sisnt quite as jacked as Affleck in the sequels and suddenly hes not as good of a Bruce Wayne.

This is why i was cool with him taking up the role again with another director or two, just like what Ben is doing. Because i guarantee he would have had a new suit and a slight difference on the voice. Suddenly everybody would be embracing him again and ****ting all over Nolan.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Bale wasn't horrible. He portrayed an excellent James Bond who dressed like a bat.

 

[JackWhite]

I noticed a real shift towards dissing Bale after how divisive TDKR was for some. Before it was just I liked the voice better in the first one, but he still got his due. Hell, looking back on the original TDK review page on the hype the majority were saying how great Bale was and that he really felt more comfortable in the role of Bruce/Batman than even BB.

 

[Keehar]

Because some people are ****wits.

Ouch

Bale wasn't horrible. He portrayed an excellent Bruce Wayne and Batman. The best.

Fixed.

I noticed a real shift towards dissing Bale after how divisive TDKR was for some. Before it was just I liked the voice better in the first one, but he still got his due. Hell, looking back on the original TDK review page on the hype the majority were saying how great Bale was and that he really felt more comfortable in the role of Bruce/Batman than even BB.

There's a newbie Bats on the way with Daredevil Affleck. That's why you're reading that crap. He'll still be king when the new kid on the block hype dies down. Unless Affleck is better which is going to take some doing to beat Bale.

 

[Malicked]

It pisses me off when people take some Batman moments from the two sequels out of context and then decide that bale was horrible all around. After Begins, that guy was seen as THE GODDAMN BATMAN and the best Bruce Wayne. He sisnt quite as jacked as Affleck in the sequels and suddenly hes not as good of a Bruce Wayne.

This is why i was cool with him taking up the role again with another director or two, just like what Ben is doing. Because i guarantee he would have had a new suit and a slight difference on the voice. Suddenly everybody would be embracing him again and ****ting all over Nolan.

The way Baleman turned out, Nolan doesn't get the credit for, for better or worse. It's like some people think Bale just came on set and dictated exactly how he was going to look, how he'd want his suit to be and how exactly he'd want his voice to sound. If Nolan was never happy with Bale's performance, I think he would've made himself heard (he is the freaking director after all). In fact I always got the impression that the leaner Batman is what Nolan had wanted from the start and not the 'beast' Batman from BB (to which Bale had overindulged himself slightly). And in some ways because of how much noise was created about Bale in the sequels, I kinda wish the 'slimline' Batman had been introduced from the start with the infamous 'throat cancer voice' because I don't think people would've made a fuss. I think it would've been accepted from the start in 2005.

Bale wasn't horrible. He portrayed an excellent James Bond who dressed like a bat.

Love the backhanded compliment. At least he could've been a good Bond for some so there's something t:

I noticed a real shift towards dissing Bale after how divisive TDKR was for some. Before it was just I liked the voice better in the first one, but he still got his due. Hell, looking back on the original TDK review page on the hype the majority were saying how great Bale was and that he really felt more comfortable in the role of Bruce/Batman than even BB.

Bale himself said he felt more comfortable in the sequel with the new suit but not many fans brought that explanation I don't think. It's sad about Rises because I thought he gave his most 'soulful' performance to date. I was OK with Bale being mostly ignored for TDK press because of what happened tragically with Heath Ledger and how for 6 months everyone was anticipating to see he would do as the most famous CBM villain on the planet.

I now look back and remember before BB how I never had even heard of Christian Bale (or Nolan for that matter). It was Batman that brought me to his other roles such as Empire of the Sun and The Machinist. And in many ways, I don't think I'll be able to relinquish Batman as my favourite role of his (though American Psycho is probably his best 'Performance' with a capital P). Which now that I've brought that up, I always loved how Patrick Bateman was kept dormant but still very much alive when Bale played Bruce Wayne. Maybe I'm just seeing too much into it lol. He could've completely played Bateman in all his 100% *****ebaggery as Wayne or just the classical archetyple American billionaire. I think he played a mixture of both. That prick Bateman I thought was still alive in Bruce's narcissistic moments t:

 

[JackWhite]

Alright, let's do a top five favorite Bruce Wayne scenes from the trilogy. I know we did this for his Batman a little while ago.

1) Making the climb - TDKR

2) Bruce pretends to be a drunken fool to save his guests - BB

3) The will to act training montage - BB

4) Batman was suppose to inspire good. Not madness, not death - TDK

5) The "I believe in Harvey Dent" speech - TDK

 

[Malicked]

I'd love it if all the Batman actors from West all the way to Affleck (including Conroy) got together and each said 'I'm Batman!' for us. Would be a fanboy dream of mine.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

He portrayed an excellent James Bond who dressed like a bat.

He screwed one woman, one, in the course of three films. James Bond screws one woman every act of a film.

Bale was a disgrace of a James Bond then.





Good thing he wasn't Bond at all.

 

[Malicked]

1) Bruce climbs the pit (normally I look down upon others being overly emotional during a film but I was extremely close to cheering during this scene. So uplifting) - TDKR

2) As a man I'm flesh and blood. I can be ignored. I can de destroyed. But as a symbol. As a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting... something elemental, something terrifying. (my fav quote from the trilogy) - BB

3) Alfred consoles Bruce after Rachel's death - TDK

4) The will to act - BB

5) Goodbye Alfred - TDKR