The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - Part 156

[Dede]

What was the explanation for Bruce getting back to Gotham in TDKR? I don’t remember, and it always kinda felt like a plot hole to me. I’m sure there’s an explanation though.

A explanation wasn’t provided. We where told it took around 23 days for him to get back but not how. He probably used money and smuggled himself in like the army did in the film

 

[shauner111]

And probably got in the city through the tunnels that lead to the bat cave. Which explains his quote to Selina in act 3 about him having a way out of the city for her.

 

[Dede]

And probably got in the city through the tunnels that lead to the bat cave. Which explains his quote to Selina in act 3 about him having a way out of the city for her.

Oh my god that actually kinda explains it

 

[Kane52630]

 

[The Joker]

^ That scene always made me think of The Long Halloween.

 

[Dede]

With all the riots going On I’ve seen some people attacking the trilogy for it being fascist and backing cops. So that’s fun

 

[Gothamsknight]

^ That scene always made me think of The Long Halloween.

Same here. That panel has become more iconic because of this film, if you ask me.

 

[TheGuy]

With all the riots going On I’ve seen some people attacking the trilogy for it being fascist and backing cops. So that’s fun

Clearly people with a bias or simply overlooking how the trilogy is written. The cops are portrayed with a varying degree of shade, but mostly corrupt. BB and TDK showed the cops easily manipulated given circumstances (Flass, Wuertz, Ramirez, etc.). Only in TDKR were they shown under a brighter spot, but they were still an accessory to the Dent Act.

 

[Dede]

Clearly people with a bias or simply overlooking how the trilogy is written. The cops are portrayed with a varying degree of shade, but mostly corrupt. BB and TDK showed the cops easily manipulated given circumstances (Flass, Wuertz, Ramirez, etc.). Only in TDKR were they shown under a brighter spot, but they were still an accessory to the Dent Act.

I agree that’s when you dig into the films it’s layered just still annoying how people are jumping into them with pre conceived notions. The cops where portrayed as bad in tdkr but we’re able to redeem themselves which I think makes a great point. Hopefully the cops in are reality will do the same one way or another

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[hellblazer103]

With all the riots going On I’ve seen some people attacking the trilogy for it being fascist and backing cops. So that’s fun

I hope for the day when people no longer force their trash takes, virtue signalling and identity politics onto every single thing in existence. That would be nice.

 

[Iceman]

Very good. That makes me want to do rewatch 200.

 

[shauner111]

That was a great edit. Shows how ambitious the movie is.

 

[Kane52630]

Man I wish I saw this movie.

 

[BatLobster]

It's a good extended trailer, really shows off the scope of the movie in cool way. Have a few audio nitpicks where dialogue needed to be louder, but other than he did a very nice job with it and definitely makes you want to watch the movie. Kinda got me going down a rabbit hole of watching the TDKR trailers.

I feel like Trailer 3 gets the most attention because it's the more emotional one, but Trailer 2 is pretty haunting and badass:



I love how "honest" the marketing for these movies was, starting from the first Begins teaser. For each film, you really sold the exact tone of the movie you were getting. In the case of Rises, it was the promise of a conclusive ending and something bigger and broader in scale. The focus on the chant in the marketing helped immediately set the tone and told you this was going places the previous films hadn't. It instantly established that it had its own identity and wasn't going to be TDK 2.0. At the same time, the use of Ra's voiceover in the first teaser hinted at the return of the LoS and some of the ideas from Begins coming full circle.

Seems simple enough to just market a film honestly, but I think a big part of getting the blockbuster experience right is when the marketing can correctly set your expectations without giving away the whole game. I'm reminded of the trailers for the Schumacher films as a counterpoint to this. The heavy use of the Elfman scores in those makes them really enjoyable trailers (I still remember how impactful they were as a kid), but not necessarily the most honest representation of the real tone of the films. Same with Spider-Man 3. Was marketed as a dark and somber chapter of the franchise, which made the campiness of the way the black suit was handled more of an unpleasant shock.

 

[BatLobster]

Ugh. RIP Denny O'Neil. One of the greats. The man's influence can certainly be felt all over TDKT.

 

[The Joker]

RIP Denny. I recall he was a big fan of the TDK movies.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[hellblazer103]

RIP Denny thank you for what you've done for Batman and comics in general

 

[Brother Jack]

RIP. I don't think his impact on Batman has ever been properly stated. He had as much influence on the character as Frank Miller or anyone.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Denny revolutionized Batman like no other. RIP denny

 

[Dede]

The Nokia tdkr trailer is still my favorite. Probably best trailer ever to me. Sad about Denny. I’ll have to go back and read his best issues

 

[Awest66]

RIP a comic book legend. Thank you for all you've done Mr O"Neil.

 

[BatLobster]

RIP. I don't think his impact on Batman has ever been properly stated. He had as much influence on the character as Frank Miller or anyone.

100%. And you could definitely argue that his influence was more for the positive on the whole than Miller's was.

 

[Mister J]

Gonna rummage through DC Universe and see if I can run through some of that O'Neil/Adams magic from the 70's.