The Xbox One - Part 8

[Thundercrack85]

The 500 GB drive was so ubiquitous at the time, with bulk discounts they probably paid next to nothing for them.

Which really makes it seem even more stupid, since for Microsoft the cost increase for a 1 TB HDD would be less than 20 dollars.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

The 500 GB drive was so ubiquitous at the time, with bulk discounts they probably paid next to nothing for them.

Which really makes it seem even more stupid, since for Microsoft the cost increase for a 1 TB HDD would be less than 20 dollars.

Yea but an extra 20 dollars over millions of units adds up. You don't become a MS or Sony by saying "eh it's only 20 dollars, no big deal". You want every dollar of profit you can get. That's business 101

 

[X Knight]

Yea I don't understand why MS doesn't allow the system to have a swappable internal HDD, even tho they do allow the more consumer friendly option of external HDDs. Clearly there is something to the 500 gigs tho and it has to be price, because Sony is doing the same thing with the size.

The 500 GB drive was so ubiquitous at the time, with bulk discounts they probably paid next to nothing for them.

Which really makes it seem even more stupid, since for Microsoft the cost increase for a 1 TB HDD would be less than 20 dollars.

well, Sony packed the PS4 with a 500GB drive, but they let you swap it out.

granted, plugging in a USB drive is much easier, faster, and more convenient, but it still would have been nice to get the option to upgrade the drive.

and as discussed here before, the irreplaceable drive probably had something to do with the initial DRM stuff. they prob didn't want the end user "messing" with the storage. remember, at launch, you couldn't even check how much space was on your hdd, right? They wanted the "system" to handle that for the user.


and the more I think about it, the more I really want to get an X1 with a 1TB drive instead.

as much as I want to get one in time for the Holidays, if a standard 1TB isn't available, I think I'm just going to sit it out and wait. that's the prudent thing to do.

cuz, with a 1TB model, I wouldn't even need to worry about the hdd being irreplaceable, because that 1TB would be more than enough space for my gaming needs.

plus, getting a 1TB model out of the box means I won't have to buy an external drive. if I ever need to, that will be down the line ( and the drives will be cheaper ).

and with the CoD edition bundle coming out in just a few weeks, it just feels like, at any moment, they could announce a standard 1TB model. it just feels like that's something we could be seeing in a few months from now.

 

[Benstamania]

I hope every other video game "boss" are taking notes from Spencer. From day one of his promotion he has been saying(and backing up) the right things. MS couldnt have a better dude in charge of their Xbox division.

I suggest every XB1 owner and anyone on the fence to listen to the newest podcast unlocked. It's only Ryan and Phil Spencer awesome interview.

 

[X Knight]

I suggest every XB1 owner and anyone on the fence to listen to the newest podcast unlocked. It's only Ryan and Phil Spencer awesome interview.

link to the podcast?

 

[Benstamania]

http://feeds.ign.com/ignfeeds/podcasts/xbox360/

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I suggest every XB1 owner and anyone on the fence to listen to the newest podcast unlocked. It's only Ryan and Phil Spencer awesome interview.

Oh bad ass. I'll check that out. Thanks for the heads up

 

[X Knight]

http://feeds.ign.com/ignfeeds/podcasts/xbox360/

thanks.

can't listen to it yet. did he say anything about a standard 1TB model coming soon?

 

[Havok83]

you're never gonna let up on that, are you?

 

[X Knight]

you're never gonna let up on that, are you?

...........nope.

 

[Benstamania]

thanks.

can't listen to it yet. did he say anything about a standard 1TB model coming soon?

Yes.. He said there's far too many SKU's right now and that they don't want to confuse people coming into Christmas. He said they're looking into ways to upgrade the HDD but for now you can easily plug in an external HDD.

Boom.

You can rest that now.

 

[X Knight]

Yes.. He said there's far too many SKU's right now and that they don't want to confuse people coming into Christmas. He said they're looking into ways to upgrade the HDD but for now you can easily plug in an external HDD.

Boom.

You can rest that now.

 

[X Knight]

so.....could early November bring price cuts to the X1?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/350-xbox-one-deal-at-kmart-next-month-report/1100-6423144/

according to the ad, for the week of Nov 9, Kmart will sell the $400 X1 for $350.

also, it seems Target and Walmart will offer the 1TB CoD bundle for $50 off, too, at $450.

hope Best Buy gets into the act, too.

but man.............they're making it really hard for me to wait for a standard 1TB model, aren't they?

 

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[Havok83]

so.....could early November bring price cuts to the X1?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/350-xbox-one-deal-at-kmart-next-month-report/1100-6423144/

according to the ad, for the week of Nov 9, Kmart will sell the $400 X1 for $350.

also, it seems Target and Walmart will offer the 1TB CoD bundle for $50 off, too, at $450.

hope Best Buy gets into the act, too.

but man.............they're making it really hard for me to wait for a standard 1TB model, aren't they?

it doesn't matter. You can always price match

 

[X Knight]

it doesn't matter. You can always price match

they'll price match sales like that??

that's good.

idk.......at $350.......that would be very tempting to get the 500gb model.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yea but an extra 20 dollars over millions of units adds up. You don't become a MS or Sony by saying "eh it's only 20 dollars, no big deal". You want every dollar of profit you can get. That's business 101

Yes, but it's not like they don't get anything out of that. 20 dollars means people have more space, and are more likely to download stuff. Personally I would be much more picky about what I download if a dozen AAA games fill up my entire hard drive.

In fact, I recently ran into that problem with my 360. I decided not to buy and download a game because, I just didn't feel like making room.

 

[Thundercrack85]

so.....could early November bring price cuts to the X1?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/350-xbox-one-deal-at-kmart-next-month-report/1100-6423144/

according to the ad, for the week of Nov 9, Kmart will sell the $400 X1 for $350.

also, it seems Target and Walmart will offer the 1TB CoD bundle for $50 off, too, at $450.

hope Best Buy gets into the act, too.

but man.............they're making it really hard for me to wait for a standard 1TB model, aren't they?

You can already buy one for 360 from a licensed dealer on eBay, without looking too hard. But that's pretty encouraging for great Black Friday deals.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yes, but it's not like they don't get anything out of that. 20 dollars means people have more space, and are more likely to download stuff. Personally I would be much more picky about what I download if a dozen AAA games fill up my entire hard drive.

In fact, I recently ran into that problem with my 360. I decided not to buy and download a game because, I just didn't feel like making room.

If only there was a way to take this stuff off your harddrive, and not lose the data, and possibly download it later.

they'll price match sales like that??

that's good.

idk.......at $350.......that would be very tempting to get the 500gb model.

I wish you would, just to get you to stop talking about the 1TB one every other post.

 

[Thundercrack85]

If only there was a way to take this stuff off your harddrive, and not lose the data, and possibly download it later.



I wish you would, just to get you to stop talking about the 1TB one every other post.

I don't see why I have to pay upwards of 50 dollars to buy an external hard drive I can only use for storing games on. I mean, I'm not asking for a lot here. Just a decent hard drive.

I'm paying 400 – 500 originally – dollars, a multi-billion dollar company can throw in a 1 TB HDD.

This is just Microsoft being cheap, and now they're paying the price for it.

When you want to sell people a console with digital gaming in mind, you shouldn't cut corners with the most vital component. I.e. the damn thing everything is stored on.

Tron, even if I got a 500 GB Xbone with a 4 TB external HDD for free, shipped to me by Bill Gates himself with a formal apology, I'd still talk about the 1 TB HDD. Just for kicks.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't see why I have to pay upwards of 50 dollars to buy an external hard drive I can only use for storing games on. I mean, I'm not asking for a lot here. Just a decent hard drive.

I'm paying 400 – 500 originally – dollars, a multi-billion dollar company can throw in a 1 TB HDD.

This is just Microsoft being cheap, and now they're paying the price for it.

When you want to sell people a console with digital gaming in mind, you shouldn't cut corners with the most vital component. I.e. the damn thing everything is stored on.

I wasn't...talking about an external HDD.

EDIT: Also, you know I wasn't replying to you there, right?

 

[Benstamania]

MS isn't paying the price because of "tiny HDD" lol. Why aren't you.. or anyone else, throwing flack at Sony? Because you can upgrade your HDD?

It's the same damn thing. I'd actually prefer external over messing around and opening my damn system.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I do. But X Knight is my ally in the crusade to get Microsoft to upgrade the damn Bone.

*****ing is what gets **** done in this industry. Well that, and low sales, and buying the other company's console.

 

[Thundercrack85]

MS isn't paying the price because of "tiny HDD" lol. Why aren't you.. or anyone else, throwing flack at Sony? Because you can upgrade your HDD?

It's the same damn thing. I'd actually prefer external over messing around and opening my damn system.

It's not. It's incredibly easy to upgrade the PS4 drive.

It is impossible to upgrade the Xbone without taking the console apart. Which doesn't just violate the warranty, but it's pretty damn hard apparently.

So even if you don't care about the warranty, you can't do it.

So, you have to buy an external HDD that costs as much as a 1 TB HDD. SSDs are also not an option with the Xbone.

 

[X Knight]

It's not. It's incredibly easy to upgrade the PS4 drive.

It is impossible to upgrade the Xbone without taking the console apart. Which doesn't just violate the warranty, but it's pretty damn hard apparently.

So even if you don't care about the warranty, you can't do it.

So, you have to buy an external HDD that costs as much as a 1 TB HDD. SSDs are also not an option with the Xbone.

while it does seem pretty easy and straightforward to swap out the PS4 drive, and while I would prefer the X1 had a swappable drive too, I've come around to the idea that it is much easier, faster, and more convenient to just plug in an external drive. especially if you get one of those small, compact portable drives.

of course, ideally, both the X1 ( and PS4 ) would let you do both - swap the internal drive AND support external drives. but, presently, that's not the case.

so, the compromise on the X1, at least, would be to wait for a 1TB internal drive. it's still not swappable, but it gives you twice the current storage which means you're less likely to need an external drive ( which you can always buy later ).