The Xbox One

[terry78]

Well, just remember not to have sex in the same room as the mic. If it's in your own personal bedroom, you're **** out of luck.

 

[Havok83]

Because it's so difficult to reach over and press "Power"....

its not about being difficult. Its about convenience

 

[Fading]

See if the Xbox One or indeed the PS4 has keyboard/mouse support for games. I would buy one on release, particularly for Call of Duty (even though I'm no longer a big fan of the series) simply so I could play with my brother.

If Microsoft & Sony wanted to deal a death blow to Steam they should install keyboard/mouse support for their consoles as with the volume of players playing on consoles it would certainly be very appealing.

I think current gen consoles already do. I know for a fact the PS3 has mouse and keyboard support, and has had games that fully use them. I see no reason for Sony to drop it nextgen.

 

[JaD]

It would suck to be a deaf XBOX gamer now that's for sure. Maybe the X1 has a clapper installed as well.

 

[terry78]

You can ask Morg his thoughts.

 

[Doc Ock]

I just hope my brother buys one so that if he's playing his CoD MP I can run into his room and scream "XBOX OFF!" and run away.

Trolololol! Epic maneuver!

 

[Nathan]

You Will Be Able To Trade Xbox One Games Online, Microsoft Says

Xbox One games will require a one-time activation code to use, but you'll still be able to trade and sell them online, Microsoft tells Kotaku—although we're not 100% clear on the details.

Speaking to us at the big event in Redmond today, Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison clarified a couple of details about the system's used game policy and explained that there will be a solution for people who want to trade games with their friends.

Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

Other users on the console will be able to play that game as well, Harrison said. So you don't need to buy multiple games per family. "With the built-in parental controls of the system it is shared amog the users of the device," he said.

But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

But that doesn't mean used games are dead. In fact, Harrison told us, you'll be able to sell your Xbox One games online.

"We will have a solution—we’re not talking about it today—for you to be able to trade your previously-played games online," Harrison said.

The Xbox exec wouldn't give further details on how this system will work, but we're assuming that once you're done with a game, you can trade the code online and it will be erased from your machine. But what will you get? Other games? Microsoft Points?

No matter how the final system works, it is not likely to please GameStop, the world's biggest buyer and seller of used video games, but it could be a tantalizing way to share games with your friends in the virtual space.

Source

 

[Matt Mortem]

So if I bought a really cool game, and wanted to take it to a buddies house so we could play it together, I can't do that. He'd have to pay a fee, the price of the game itself, in order for us to play it just for a weekend or something? Is that what I'm reading?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

**** that.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

So you can't go to friends house to show him a cool game you got? That is complete and utter ********. My sister's BF borrows some games from me time-to-time. I guess he won't be able to do this anymore.

 

[Matt Mortem]

My best friend often buys the great single player games out there, like GTA and the like, and when he finishes, he passes it off for me to play. We can't do that anymore? **** that. **** that.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

If that's true, why don't they make an option for you to "lend" your code to another gamer? So if I lend the disc to a buddy, I can throw the authorisation to his XBL account, and I'm now blocked from playing while he plays. When he returns it, he simply throws the authorisation back at me.

You could even sign in to XBL on your console, deactivate the code on that console, sign in to your XBL on a friend's console and reactivate it there. This is what Avid does with software support on multiple computers.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

You can, but you have to pay a price.

 

[craigdbfan]

So convoluted and unnecessary. Sony is winning me over after anaylizing the information I have.

Nintendo has gone bonkers and is going after Lets Play makers for petty cash, Microsoft's Xbox One seems more like the Xbox Tyrant.

PS4 is the only one that really seems to be in touch with players at this point. Friendly with the YouTube gaming community and encouraging them to play and record their content. They're not blocking used games as they realize pissing off a significant chunk of your gaming audience probably isn't the best idea.

Sony "gets it". Nintendo has fallen far, far from grace and Microsoft seems adamant about going in that direction.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

If Microsoft follows through with this, I wouldn't care if the XBox goes the way of the Zune.

 

[Soapy]

 

[Asteroid-Man]

So if I bought a really cool game, and wanted to take it to a buddies house so we could play it together, I can't do that. He'd have to pay a fee, the price of the game itself, in order for us to play it just for a weekend or something? Is that what I'm reading?

That's exactly why I'm calling ********. It makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Soapy]

If Microsoft follows through with this, I wouldn't care if the XBox goes the way of the Zune.

I would have them trade places. Zune HD was awesome.

 

[Nathan]

I guess it really helped that Sony got in touch with all the game developers, to give us the best possible gaming experience.

 

[Fading]

For some reason I doubt that's going to help MS. That's a list of worst case scenario's for the used game argument.


Just like I was saying I was afraid would happen, the fee is full game price. I said 30-60 since I figured you'd add in not getting the physical copy. With the set up though it makes perfect sense (even if I don't like it). If you let a friend borrow it, and they installed it on their hard drive, they could play it whenever. So Microsoft charges them full game price. In other words, you just need to go ahead and lug your X1 over to a friends house if you're going to play your games at his/her house. Of course the linked accounts being able to share a game should ease the worries of parents wanting siblings to share a game on multiple consoles.


That still kills rentals and used games purchases though. It sounds like if your going the used games route, MS wants you to sell it online through them. Chances are (just a guess), they'll set the price, take a portion of the sales (maybe part of which goes to the game developer). Basically they become like a more controlled Ebay for you. Requiring you to deactivate the game on your console first.

This does nothing for the Gamefly and Gamestop worries. If anything it's made them worse since the $10 fee is shot down, and now it's a $60 fee. I imagine Gamestop's going to do buisness as usual with PS4 and WiiU games, but only sell new X1 games, like they do with PC titles. This almost means buying any used X1 products from things like yardsales, or craigslist is a big no-no.

I really think this info is just going to make this problem worse, in all honesty.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Holy ****. I love you Kaz!!!

 

[Nathan]

Spoiler

Is this legit?

 

[Matt Mortem]

Microsoft has to do some damage control, because the majority of what I'm reading sounds just awful. I hope they have something huge up their sleeves to show off at E3

 

[B]

I think current gen consoles already do. I know for a fact the PS3 has mouse and keyboard support, and has had games that fully use them. I see no reason for Sony to drop it nextgen.

I'm talking more for games though, you can use a keyboard & mouse I believe on PS3's internet, however you can't use it for games. Mainly FPS's is what I'm thinking.

 

[Soapy]

Holy ****. I love you Kaz!!!

Is this legit?

Sadly not. It's a parody account.