Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[First Avenger]

I like both Thor movies more than most people on these boards,but I'm excited to see where the New creative team will take the character.

 

[First Avenger]

This negativity is exactly why I avoid these forums these days. Just such a downer for someone who enjoys these films. People have made it a full time occupation to talk endlessly about how mediocre they feel the Thor films are particularly the last one. We get it. You didn't like them. Move on already.

And for the all the anti-humor folks I don't know what Thor comics they were reading growing up but Thor always made me laugh. Tongue-in-cheek Waititi tweets a comical, classic moment in Thor's greatest run and people lose their $#!t. A bunch of faux fans is what they are.

I've said it time and again Thor is not LOTR. Kirby and Lee created a wacky mashup of mythology, fantasy, sci-fi and superheroics. There's nothing LOTR whatsoever about the Wrecking Crew, the Absorbing Man, the Rigellians, the Recorder, Planet Ego or Zarrko the Tomorrow Man. Frodo Baggins never hopped in a space ship, Gandalf never traveled through time and Aragorn never joined the Avengers and fought in New York City. Just stop already. Geez...

 

[Mike Murdock]

I am really confused...

Hearing something like "Ragnarok" and "End of Days" and "important movie"... and till now, i know - just rumors, it sounds more like a "next Thor adventure".

My guess is it's Asgard in danger or even possibly Asgard falling and Thor goes on a quest through the Nine Realms to stop the danger. That's why I'm hoping Surtur could still be a major threat - Surtur attacking Asgard, Thor likely trying to find Odin, although I could see a McGuffin instead.

 

[The Ironstar]

He was migrant farmhand Orrin. He smacked around some local toughs after they questioned the propriety of his spending time with a young widow and saved the woman's son by throwing his body into the path of a runaway tractor.

 

[Mike Murdock]

He was migrant farmhand Orrin. He smacked around some local toughs after they questioned the propriety of his spending time with a young widow and saved the woman's son by throwing his body into the path of a runaway tractor.

That's it!

 

[InCali]

Others probably knew this, but I just noticed that Thor will be going up against Justice League (Pt 1) 2 weeks after its release. I'm wondering if that will move.

Spiderman got moved. Thankfully that didn't lead to (yet) another shake up of movie release dates.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Others probably knew this, but I just noticed that Thor will be going up against Justice League (Pt 1) 2 weeks after its release. I'm wondering if that will move.

Spiderman got moved. Thankfully that didn't lead to (yet) another shake up of movie release dates.

Yikes.

 

[InCali]

Yikes.

JL has 4 weeks before Ep 8 (do I even need to name the franchise? ) comes out.

 

[eeffos]

Others probably knew this, but I just noticed that Thor will be going up against Justice League (Pt 1) 2 weeks after its release. I'm wondering if that will move.

Spiderman got moved. Thankfully that didn't lead to (yet) another shake up of movie release dates.

I think being up against the Justice League is what is making Marvel do such a shake up with the Thor movie. Bringing in the Hulk will definitely boost the box office as will bringing in someone like Cate Blanchett.
The Winter Soldier was a great movie but it was definitely helped by having several of the Avenger stars (Black Widow, Nick Fury and Shield), along with introducing two new heroes (Falcon and Winter Soldier). I think that was their thoughts concerning creating buzz and a neat story for Thor!
There's no way Marvel is going to want Thor to bomb, when you spend ~ $150 million making a movie, Disney is going to expect results. Plus I think Fiege (sp?) pride is on the line. I think everyone will be surprised just how good this movie turns out.

 

[InCali]

I think being up against the Justice League is what is making Marvel do such a shake up with the Thor movie. Bringing in the Hulk will definitely boost the box office as will bringing in someone like Cate Blanchett.
The Winter Soldier was a great movie but it was definitely helped by having several of the Avenger stars (Black Widow, Nick Fury and Shield), along with introducing two new heroes (Falcon and Winter Soldier). I think that was their thoughts concerning creating buzz and a neat story for Thor!
There's no way Marvel is going to want Thor to bomb, when you spend ~ $150 million making a movie, Disney is going to expect results. Plus I think Fiege (sp?) pride is on the line. I think everyone will be surprised just how good this movie turns out.

I just wonder if they'll move it back a week or two. They have plenty of time to think about it. You know what I think brings in people? Cool bad guys/gals. Sure, it helps to have other heroes (like Civil War), but what really makes a movie good is a good villain ? Cate is a terrific actor; one of the best. I'm sure it'll be a good movie. With good buzz, I think it can open north of 100M.

 

[Mjölnir]

Thor being set so close to Episode VIII is what could make me see them moving it, as it would be fairly close competition between two movies from Disney. While the next SW movie quite possibly could make less money than the previous one (even if it's better, which I think it might be) it's probably going to be clearly bigger than both Ragnarok and Justice League.

 

[InCali]

Thor being set so close to Episode VIII is what could make me see them moving it, as it would be fairly close competition between two movies from Disney. While the next SW movie quite possibly could make less money than the previous one (even if it's better, which I think it might be) it's probably going to be clearly bigger than both Ragnarok and Justice League.

Yeah. I'm hoping Ep 8 is to TFA what TESB was to ANH. Both ANH and TFA were really enjoyable, but I thought TESB, had a darker, more mature tone, along with the mythological background. My fav SW movie.

I think, however, that Thor is far enough away from Ep 8 that they won't have to worry about it. I'd like to see Thor with less competition on week 3 than JL because it's drawing directly from the same audience and I think JL is going to be pretty huge. Maybe not Avengers huge, but huge nonetheless. Even 1 week difference could be worth well into 8 figures when you start counting holds and that's nothing to sneeze at.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah they should probably bump Thor 1 week earlier

 

[Zarex]

Whether or not Marvel moves Ragnarok will largely depend on the box office for BvS. I could see Marvel rolling the dice that the Thor-Hulk pairing will hold up regardless of the competition.

I don't see an "Avengers" style bump for JL since we're seeing the heavy hitters fight together in a couple of months. So if BvS doesn't get the record breaking box office reception that folks are those threads are convinced will occur, my thinking is that Feige and company will hold firm. Just like they did with Civil War.

 

[InCali]

Whether or not Marvel moves Ragnarok will largely depend on the box office for BvS. I could see Marvel rolling the dice that the Thor-Hulk pairing will hold up regardless of the competition.

I don't see an "Avengers" style bump for JL since we're seeing the heavy hitters fight together in a couple of months. So if BvS doesn't get the record breaking box office reception that folks are those threads are convinced will occur, my thinking is that Feige and company will hold firm. Just like they did with Civil War.

That sounds fine, but what would it "hurt" to move it up a week? I think BvS will do fine, but I certainly don't expect Avengers type of numbers.

 

[Zarex]

That sounds fine, but what would it "hurt" to move it up a week? I think BvS will do fine, but I certainly don't expect Avengers type of numbers.

NEVER SHOW WEAKNESS!!!!!

........I guess a week woudn't hurt.

 

[Quasimod0]

http://collider.com/taika-waititi-t...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

Taika talks more about the humor of Thor 3.

 

[JtheDreamer]

http://collider.com/taika-waititi-t...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

Taika talks more about the humor of Thor 3.

Still waaaaaaay too much talk about the humor of the movie. It's a Marvel film, we know they're going to try to stuff it with humor. For once I'd rather hear about something else - things that are far more important than this goofy stuff.

 

[MbJ]

According to Ruffalo, Hulk will have an arc here that extends to Infinity War Part I an Part II.

 

[Quasimod0]

I'm ready to hear something about how this will be the "Winter Soldier" of Thor movies, like Feige said.

 

[MbJ]

I'm ready to hear something about how this will be the "Winter Soldier" of Thor movies, like Feige said.

I hear there will be some Marvin Gaye.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't get what Marvel is doing with this movie, to be honest.

Feige talked about it being a game changer and its called Thor Ragnarok so the stakes should be personal and very high for the lead character. But we keep hearing about road buddy comedies with Hulk and how funny the director wants the movie to be. Those seem like two different movies there, and trying to make both of them into one film will just lead to a mess. And we got plenty of wackiness with The Dark World so I don't see how going even more comedic would be much of a game changer.

 

[ernesth100]

This movie has alot of potential. So much possiblr outcomes and ways they can deliver them.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't get what Marvel is doing with this movie, to be honest.

Feige talked about it being a game changer and its called Thor Ragnarok so the stakes should be personal and very high for the lead character. But we keep hearing about road buddy comedies with Hulk and how funny the director wants the movie to be. Those seem like two different movies there, and trying to make both of them into one film will just lead to a mess. And we got plenty of wackiness with The Dark World so I don't see how going even more comedic would be much of a game changer.

Every Thor movie had comedy. The first movie played up the fish out of water aspects.

To me, the comedy wasn't the weak part of the movie. Removing the comedy without improving anything else isn't going to help it either. If the early rumors are true, this movie was the darkest Thor movie by far, so they decided to add comedy to lighten it. The focus in discussion has been that, but I don't think they can go from Grave of the Fireflies to Airplane overnight. More likely, it's a serious movie with some moments of levity and that's what they're focusing talking about at the moment. But it's pretty far out. Let's wait and see a bit.

 

[meanmc]

I also think, that they are talking way to much about "being funny"!

Ragnarok - as i saw the title for the first time - that means "business".
Not the usual humor (of all the other Marvel movies), but "fighting for their lives and friends"...
Joking at the wrong time, could ruin the whole tone of the movie.
They said, that the script was "to dark" - well, that IS Ragnarok!

If they really send Thor to another planet, shaving his head, he fighting for his life, knowing, that Loki and Hela ruling Asgard - PLEASE, NO JOKES!!!

It is a problem of the Marvel movies, that they are often to funny in the wrong moments.