The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XI

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Nah, I'll just download it later tonight.

How would you grade the movie Doc?
 
You're right, his appearance does tie into his personality and serves as a great visual metaphor for the sort of threat he represents to Batman. But I think his appearance is secondary, like the Joker's skin being perma-white: it could weaken the character, depending on how he's portrayed, or it could end up not being an issue, as was the case in TDK.
I don't think anyone has denied that. It's just that it's a very close second to writing/performance. So it's importance is fairly significant, in spite of not being the highest priority.
 
You're right, his appearance does tie into his personality and serves as a great visual metaphor for the sort of threat he represents to Batman. But I think his appearance is secondary, like the Joker's skin being perma-white: it could weaken the character, depending on how he's portrayed, or it could end up not being an issue, as was the case in TDK.
Perma-white is not comparable at all. That was a detail, a reason for Joker's appearance, but the Joker still looked like the Joker. The white face, the red lips, they were all there.

This Bane has the mask that is loosely based on his comic appearance but not his most defining attribute; his size. Unless they do something to make him look bigger he is unrecognisable.
 
I wonder if anyone would have been bothered if Two-Face would have been a lumbering giant in TDK. Played by a good actor who totally dwarfs Bale.

See, but this is irrelevant, because the actors have a two inch height difference--negligible at best.

And if Nolan had put him in Riddler-green suit. Or would we not have minded because he acted so well.

Again, you're taking this to ludicrous extremes. Bane to the general audience is "that big, strong guy with the mask." Show them the promo pic of Hardy and they'll see a big, strong guy with a mask. Show them the spy pictures and then they'll say "Okay, maybe he's not huge, but he's still that strong guy with the mask." He's not wearing a purple suit and carrying playing cards.
 
See, I would argue that it's like saying that the Joker can still capture the spirit of the character without the perma-white face. There's a considerable difference.

You got it wrong. I wasn't talking about the perma skin. Like I said, imagine a Joker without the white face paint and red lipstick. Would that be acceptable as long as they capture the spirit of the character?
 
JAK®;21101631 said:
Perma-white is not comparable at all. That was a detail, a reason for Joker's appearance, but the Joker still looked like the Joker. The white face, the red lips, they were all there.

This Bane has the mask that is loosely based on his comic appearance but not his most defining attribute; his size. Unless they do something to make him look bigger he is unrecognisable.

You can't seriously tell me that just because he's the same height as Batman you are completely unable to recognize him.
 
People use it quite often. Haha.



Nolan said "more tactical and less sexy". I don't think she be wearing any type of leather at all.

Well if the reports are true, the Catwoman suit will look a lot like what we've been seeing in the comics... yes, it'll be sexy too. lol.

EDIT: And it wasn't Nolan that said that.
 
You can't seriously tell me that just because he's the same height as Batman you are completely unable to recognize him.
Well, considering very little else resembles his comic counterpart then I don't know what I'm supposed to recognise.

And he's not the same height as Batman, he's shorter.
 
hardy's latest interview makes me think bane will use venom/grow larger in the movie
 
JAK®;21101663 said:
That height difference is in the wrong direction, unfortunately.

But two inches nonetheless. If you're more than five feet away, you'd probably estimate they're the same height.
 
JAK®;21101631 said:
This Bane has the mask that is loosely based on his comic appearance but not his most defining attribute; his size. Unless they do something to make him look bigger he is unrecognisable.


Maybe Nolan is pulling the Ducard/Ra's card again. He calls himself Bane, but later on in the film, it is revealed that he is actually Black Mask (mask resembles his just as much as Bane's & he is about the right size, lol)

Again, I keed. I keed.
 
You got it wrong. I wasn't talking about the perma skin. Like I said, imagine a Joker without the white face paint and red lipstick. Would that be acceptable as long as they capture the spirit of the character?

You misunderstood what I said. I know you weren't talking about the perma-white. Reread my post.
 
I think if somebody showed me a picture of Hardy Bane and said "Who's this?" I'd be confused. If they said "Which Batman villain is this?" I think I'd probably say Bane.
 
But two inches nonetheless. If you're more than five feet away, you'd probably estimate they're the same height.
I don't know about you but I can spot a height difference of two inches quite easily, providing that both postures are equal.
 
I think if somebody showed me a picture of Hardy Bane and said "Who's this?" I'd be confused. If they said "Which Batman villain is this?" I think I'd probably say Bane.

I'd probably think "Ok, which obscure villain did they drag out of the vault for this Movie?"
 
For me, Bane having a South American accent is pretty important. It would be like having a James Bond movie, where Bond has a regular American accent. It just doesn't suit the character properly.

I wouldn't go that far. For two reasons: 1. James Bond is a far more iconic character, and 2. Bane hasn't had a lot of roles where there was audio.
 
JAK®;21101685 said:
Well, considering very little else resembles his comic counterpart then I don't know what I'm supposed to recognise.

And he's not the same height as Batman, he's shorter.

I'll just copy what I posted above:

Bane to the general audience is "that big, strong guy with the mask." Show them the promo pic of Hardy and they'll see a big, strong guy with a mask. Show them the spy pictures and then they'll say "Okay, maybe he's not huge, but he's still that strong guy with the mask."

And I'll say for a third time, two inches is a minimal height difference. I realize that he is technically shorter, but I think it's reasonable to treat it as if they are basically the same height. When people say otherwise, it feels like they're trying to make the disparity seem more dramatic to make their case stronger.
 
JAK®;21101731 said:
I don't know about you but I can spot a height difference of two inches quite easily, providing that both postures are equal.

off topic, but have you seen tim heidecker's stand up?

it's hilarious tbqh

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